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Hash making me paranoid?

  • 23-11-2008 08:10PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    if i am drinking i often smoke hash however i never smoke it otherwise. I have never noticed any ill effects. Recently i did smoke it on its own. However i got very paranoid and thought everyone was looking at me. I am a very paranoid person anyway but was wondering could the hash be effecting me without me noticing? or in the long term?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    One of the side effects of cannabis is paranoia. It happens to some more than others. I have friends who won't touch hash because it makes them so paranoid. If you're naturally paranoid, it's likely that smoking hash could exacerbate this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Hash will make you paranoid, I'd suggest not using it if you are already paranoid . Maybe only smoke herb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    If anything has a negative adverse effect on you, just stop. Don't even ask for advice on how to curb it. Just stop. There are no real benefits to smoking the stuff, and it's obviously not having any positive impact on your social life, so there's no reason to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Lately it has made me ridiculously paranoid, never used to happen before.

    No real interest though these days, its more of a kids thing tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    I know someone who developed paranoid schizophrenia from it. Stop messing around and being an idiot. ditch the hash before you end up in an asylum or killing someone (or both).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,075 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    As Faith has said one of the side effects of hash is to make you paranoid. As you're a naturally paranoid person don't you think the obvious thing would be to give it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    It probably is.
    Remember kids, no matter what anyone says, drugs are always bad for you. Mmm kay?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    But why have has it never effected me before ? i usually smoke it in flats with friends while drinking. I am not while into it i smoke it more out of nervousness eg something to do

    I only noticed it effected me when i smoked it during the day without drink and took a walk through the town i thought everyone was looking at me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    afaik there is no scientific evidence that says smoking hash makes you paranoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    OP, some strains will make you more paranoid than others. I found myself getting very paranoid in the past as one of the effects marajuana has is to distort your thought patterns and make you overthink things. My advice is to not smoke in uncomfortable situations. Marajuana is one of the best ways to spend an evening within a confined group but it isn't the most social drug.

    Then again, if you still feel paranoid amongst people you trust maybe it's more to do with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    afaik there is no scientific evidence that says smoking hash makes you paranoid.

    Well it does. And as far as I know you're incorrect.
    Hash will make you paranoid, I'd suggest not using it if you are already paranoid . Maybe only smoke herb.

    Are you talking about the weed from the film american beauty that's genetically engineered? Cop on, herb these days is insanely strong and makes people far more paranoid than soap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    afaik there is no scientific evidence that says smoking hash makes you paranoid.

    You sound like one of those smoking ads in the 60's

    Anyone that has been around hash knows that it affects some people in this way. My father was an addict for 40 years and all it did really for him was stick him to the couch. No paranoia, but if you're naturally paranoid leave the stuff alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    afaik there is no scientific evidence that says smoking hash makes you paranoid.

    I love how whenever there's a discussion about marijuana someone comes along to defend it by saying there's no scientific evidence that says hash is harmful in anyway.

    I've seen a couple of very close friends of mine screw up their lives over hash, i know its a very destructive drug even though it seems harmless. It'll make you very lazy, it'll make you very disinterested in life, it could make you paranoid, it'll make you slowly screw your life over if you stick to it.

    Don't wanna turn this into a debate about marijuana but hash is not a completely safe drug. It is addicting (not as addicting as nicotine and alcohol but still pretty addictive) and it does create a few long term psychological effects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I've seen a couple of very close friends of mine screw up their lives over hash, i know its a very destructive drug even though it seems harmless. It'll make you very lazy, it'll make you very disinterested in life, it could make you paranoid, it'll make you slowly screw your life over if you stick to it.

    This is not fact and I'd appreciate if you wouldn't state it as if it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭unhappycamper


    As you get older and even more intellectual your paranoia may evolve into schizophrenia. Be careful OP and mind yourself. Drugs of this type or any for that matter may not suite your personality so take things slow for a while and stay off hash and especially stay away from weed. You might just be fine the way you are without it!

    Or:

    Don't take my advice and work it all out for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Kold wrote: »
    This is not fact and I'd appreciate if you wouldn't state it as if it was.

    I'm sure everyone will agree hash makes you lazy.
    Its not a scientific fact but thats what hash does!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Pete4779


    To clear up this issue around paranoia:

    Caspi et al. Biol Psychiatry. 2005 May 15;57(10):1117-27.
    Van Winkel R et al. Am J Med Genet B Neuropsychiatr Genet. 2008 Jan 5;147B(1):10-7.
    Van Winkel R et al. Eur Psychiatry. 2008 Apr;23(3):219-22. Epub 2008 Mar 6.
    Stefanis NC et al. Psychol Med. 2007 Nov;37(11):1651-6.


    You're chance of getting paranoid or psychotic depend on a few factors and one of them is genetic. This is why some people smoke with no problems and others have many.

    You need to smoke cannabis infrequently and have the val158met genotype to have the elevated risk of paranoia and psychosis.

    So yeah, there is scientific evidence backing up this :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I'm sure everyone will agree hash makes you lazy.
    Its not a scientific fact but thats what hash does!

    You'll notice that I didn't just quote the laziness thing, I quoted the entire bs paragraph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Kold wrote: »
    You'll notice that I didn't just quote the laziness thing, I quoted the entire bs paragraph.

    Cuz the rest of the things are consequences of being lazy. If you're smoking too much of it regularly you'll end up becoming really lazy, you'll stop giving a crap about your college/job etc. and as a result you'll end up screwing up your life unless you realise what you're doing and get off the weed to fix yourself back.

    Now this doesn't happen to a lot of people, many grow up and give up the weed before they do any serious damage to their lives. But a lot of people do end up in that circle and screw up their lives...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Lately it has made me ridiculously paranoid, never used to happen before.

    No real interest though these days, its more of a kids thing tbh.

    Oh? It is???

    I see a lot of ignorant missguided and uneducated responses on this thread... Pfft...!

    Mary Jane can make you paranoid, it's not good for you to smoke it if you are naturally paranoid. Do stop it...

    Smoking mary jane can have some very good effects for people. In some countries it is used for medicimal purposes. It can relax some people who suffer from anxiety.

    Alcohol and nicotene are more dangerous drugs. Only differance is that the government can make a pretty penny off these two drugs without causing much arousal within the media and public eye.

    Mary jane is not chemicaly addictive. Contrary to an uneducated posters statement. Alcohol has more of a negative effect on people than mary jane does. I could go on and on and on, but some of you people are just too ignorant to accept anything else. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Cuz the rest of the things are consequences of being lazy. If you're smoking too much of it regularly you'll end up becoming really lazy, you'll stop giving a crap about your college/job etc. and as a result you'll end up screwing up your life unless you realise what you're doing and get off the weed to fix yourself back.

    I'm sorry, what? I've smoked quite a lot in my day and I just have to tell you you're talking utter b*llocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Cuz the rest of the things are consequences of being lazy. If you're smoking too much of it regularly you'll end up becoming really lazy, you'll stop giving a crap about your college/job etc. and as a result you'll end up screwing up your life unless you realise what you're doing and get off the weed to fix yourself back.

    Who tells you these things? Weed can definately relax you but christ, it's not going to ruin your life. Look at alcohol, that has a really bad impact on peoples lives. I would think that the amount of sick days relating to alcohol is pretty high.

    You cannot blame weed for making you lazy...

    Anyway, goodluck with "getting off the weed" op, I know there are some clinics in dublin that help hash addicts wein you off the drug. Huge challenge for you. Not sure if you will ever be free from your addiction... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Oh? It is???

    I see a lot of ignorant missguided and uneducated responses on this thread... Pfft...!

    Then don't add your own!
    Mary jane is not chemicaly addictive. Contrary to an uneducated posters statement. Alcohol has more of a negative effect on people than mary jane does. I could go on and on and on, but some of you people are just too ignorant to accept anything else. ;)

    While that is almost certainly true, I notice you didn't add that it is psychologically addictive to lots of people. Seeing as this person is posting that although this drug is making him feel paranoid he still wants to do it. That's a good enough sign for me that he's a candidate.

    "gambling is not chemically addictive"

    Also OP, smoking hash is a gateway drug to nicotine addiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭dav nagle


    Oh? It is???

    I see a lot of ignorant missguided and uneducated responses on this thread... Pfft...!

    Mary Jane can make you paranoid, it's not good for you to smoke it if you are naturally paranoid. Do stop it...

    Smoking mary jane can have some very good effects for people. In some countries it is used for medicimal purposes. It can relax some people who suffer from anxiety.

    Alcohol and nicotene are more dangerous drugs. Only differance is that the government can make a pretty penny off these two drugs without causing much arousal within the media and public eye.

    Mary jane is not chemicaly addictive. Contrary to an uneducated posters statement. Alcohol has more of a negative effect on people than mary jane does. I could go on and on and on, but some of you people are just too ignorant to accept anything else. ;)




    I had GAD and smoking heightened my feelings of tension/lack of control/paranoia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    if i am drinking i often smoke hash however i never smoke it otherwise. I have never noticed any ill effects. Recently i did smoke it on its own. However i got very paranoid and thought everyone was looking at me. I am a very paranoid person anyway but was wondering could the hash be effecting me without me noticing? or in the long term?

    This in no way suggests any form of dependency to me. I think we'd need a little more to affirm any kind of addiction.


    Let me just say this, if all weed was gone in the country, you wouldn't find any less apathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭unhappycamper


    People who think that there is little wrong with smoking believe that mental issues only happen to some people and that they are somehow invincible to negative symptoms. I used to think like that anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile



    Mary jane is not chemicaly addictive. Contrary to an uneducated posters statement. Alcohol has more of a negative effect on people than mary jane does. I could go on and on and on, but some of you people are just too ignorant to accept anything else. ;)

    Check out this wiki link (as i don't know how to insert pics in my posts).
    It shows how Cannabis, not as much as alcohol and nicotine, is addictive and harmful.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Check out this wiki link (as i don't know how to insert pics in my posts).
    It shows how Cannabis, not as much as alcohol and nicotine, is addictive and harmful.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg

    and remember the op more than likely smokes with tobacco and that scale refer's to weed and not hash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Kold wrote: »
    This in no way suggests any form of dependency to me. I think we'd need a little more to affirm any kind of addiction.


    Let me just say this, if all weed was gone in the country, you wouldn't find any less apathy.


    i didnt say i was addicted and ididnt say it was defintely making me paranoid(someone else posted unregistered). i think i might have mental health issues just wondered if it was making me more paranoid than i already am


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Everyone here should get a grip on themselves.

    Hash is ILLEGAL. Simple as. The OP has already experienced some of its negative effects. Paranoia from hash is not uncommon, which can in turn lead to paranoid schizophrenia.

    People should stop arguing the detail.

    Bottom line is: OP, get off the drugs. They're illegal and you could mess your life up irreversibly.

    Mods? Thread lock?


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