Man commits suicide live on Justin.tv

coillcam

Only just read this on Digg, mods remove if you think it's not appropriate. I haven't seen it posted elsewhere on boards.

Gist of the story is a 19 year old guy on the bodybuilding.com forum posted up a list of pills he was going to take to kill himself, people egged him on, posted up a suicide note, got furthered egged on and then went through with it on Justin.tv. Again more people taking the piss, eventually hours later people near the guy got through to the Sheriff's office in his county and the police arrived too late and the poor guy was dead.

Here's the link from Digg.com http://newteevee.com/2008/11/20/19-year-old-commits-suicide-on-justintv/

Really sad story. Poor guy, RIP.

mike65

The very defintion of a very modern death.

Mike

dlofnep

Not the first time this happened. I was there for one before on paltalk.. they were egging a guy on for ages.. I was in the room. I had left to get food, came back and the chap was dead. It was all over the news.

funk-you

coillcam wrote: »

Only just read this on Digg, mods remove if you think it's not appropriate. I haven't seen it posted elsewhere on boards.

Gist of the story is a 19 year old guy on the bodybuilding.com forum posted up a list of pills he was going to take to kill himself, people egged him on, posted up a suicide note, got furthered egged on and then went through with it on Justin.tv. Again more people taking the piss, eventually hours later people near the guy got through to the Sheriff's office in his county and the police arrived too late and the poor guy was dead.

Here's the link from Digg.com http://newteevee.com/2008/11/20/19-year-old-commits-suicide-on-justintv/

Really sad story. Poor guy, RIP.

What kind of asshole do you have to be to egg someone on like that EVEN if you think they might be faking?

-Funk

joe_chicken

mike65 wrote: »

The very defintion of a very modern death.

Mike

Only if he was posting from his iPhone while driving his hybrid SUV home to his repossessed house from his job that he just lost.

Thats really sick. I can never understand the mentality of people who do that. And it's not the first suicide to be egged on and it probably wont be the last. The people who egged should be arrested.

seamus

Very similar to the case of the guy who did pretty much that on IRC.

And the gene pool gains +1 purity.

Seriously though, it sounds like the boy who cried wolf to me. He was a serial troller on the forums and was known for pulling stunts.

Mark200

funk-you wrote: »

What kind of asshole do you have to be to egg someone on like that EVEN if you think they might be faking?

-Funk

To be fair, I could imagine some people on here doing that if someone, often seen as a troll, posted up that they're going to kill themselves.


It's still disgusting, but it'd happen on most internet forums.

Das Kitty

Can't remember what I saw it on recently, but there was a guy on top of a building threatening to jump and the assembled crowd below egged him on, so he jumped. The police were up there trying to talk him down and this bunch of degenerates decided this was funny. I'll bet they weren't laughing too much when they were covered in bits of him.

It really really makes me wonder about people when I hear about this kind of thing.

seamus

seamus wrote: »

Very similar to the case of the guy who did pretty much that on IRC.

And the gene pool gains +1 purity.

Seriously though, it sounds like the boy who cried wolf to me. He was a serial troller on the forums and was known for pulling stunts.

Brandon Vedas?

Think his last words were, "told you I was hardcore"

Biggins

What the egging daft sods don't know is that their I.P. and their messages are recorded!

If the authorities are bothered, they might arrest a few of those doing the egging to show that they might be held culpable in the suicide.
Pressurising a clearly mentally unstable person might be a legal cause of action in the eyes of the law.

Just goes to show anyway that there is too many people out there with too little brains between the lot of them. They are nothing more than a pack of animal moronic scum.

Black_Knight

From the community that brought such laughs as Got my girlfriend to model for my car

Also brings CandyJunkie

Its an old thread, but i seen this on a different forum with his thread entitled "ask a guy whos gonna OD again tonight, anything".
All threads have been deleted since. There was a youtube video of the cops breaking into his room also. The guy wasnt moving on the bed, but they came in guns at the ready.

Seems like the guy had a problem

RIP.

jim o doom

Jesus so reactionary here. It's one thing if it's some poor fool standing on a ledge - which is a clear and real danger, but some idiot on the internet, of whom there are millions & could easily be spoofing? Come on people - the internet is the wonderful web of lies & people being who they are not. Why would anyone truly believe someone would be stupid enough to do such a thing; and the reaction I imagine would be one of disdain for the person claiming it - eppecially if they were a seriel troll. People just presume that as per usual an idiot is trolling. Arrest people for being part of it? How could the court prove that these people had any idea that the person on the receiving end of the abuse was actually going to do something? what would they be charged with & what evidence other than a CONVERSTION ON THE INTERNET would the prosecution give? jesus holy christ. If someone is stupid enough to kill themselves because a bunch of faceless retards on the internet egg them on, then let them kill themselves, it's unfortunate for their family and friends, but for society on a whole its a boon.

engrish?

Black_Knight wrote: »

From the community that brought such laughs as Got my girlfriend to model for my car

Fcuk that guys girlfriend is ugly.

Biggins

Something like a similar case in America running at the moment.
A young girl killed herself after being pressurised by an adult and the adults daughter - all over the internet.
The mother and daughter are now charged with legal manslaughter or something similar.

Also the law is being further amended to include (to a greater degree) such egging on and bullying that leads to suicide, to be a more solid legal chargeable crime.

Spunge

AN HERO

thelordofcheese

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats really sick. I can never understand the mentality of people who do that. And it's not the first suicide to be egged on and it probably wont be the last. The people who egged should be arrested.

For what exactly?

JCDUB

Black_Knight wrote: »

From the community that brought such laughs as Got my girlfriend to model for my car

Good Jaysus she's a bleedin howler, if I was him I wouldn't be showing her off:eek:

As for the suicude guy, very sad indeed, RIP

The people who egged him on are obviously disturbed to begin with.

Spunge

good god, whats wrong with her face

Biggins

thelordofcheese wrote: »

For what exactly?

News story - one example link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6296079

Drew, 49, is charged with conspiracy and accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information for the purpose of inflicting emotional distress on Megan Meier. The four charges each carry a maximum penalty of five years in prison.

Because of this one case egging on a suicide or being an indirect cause of it, can lead to you being charged.
The laws are being further amended to include bullying/egging one someone.

We are slow but what America does, 10 years later, we get to include similar, later in our own laws... eventually!

thelordofcheese

Biggins wrote: »

Assisting a suicide by mental torture. Thats what the line is being taken by a similar mentioned case a few posts back.

What a crock of shit.

Guy posts on the internet that he's going to kill himself, why should anyone take it seriously?
The 'net is made up of attention whores and trolls, there is no reason to suspect that anyone who says they are/will do anything on the net is telling the truth.

Frankly, trying to make comments made in a setting where there is no way to ascertain how serious anyone is being carry some kind of legal weight is fuckin' retarded.

Double also - someone going out of their way to fuck with someone and an attention whore on a forum are not comparable.

seanybiker

engrish? wrote: »

Fcuk that guys girlfriend is ugly.

I added her on myspace lol

RossFixxxed

What an idiot. *clap* *clap*

It's almost like evolution, like people who walk into a junction texting.

R

Kold

There's far more "DO IT F*GGOT" pictures than "Naw srsly d00d, so much to liv 4." lolcats.

dr.bollocko

I have dibbsies on the novel and movie based on this.
You all heard it. Dibbsies.

Dinter

If you're going to apportion blame to a bunch of randomers who never met the deceased because they "egged him on" and didn't take his attention whoring seriously then you might as well prosecute whatever family and friends he has for not stopping it.

Surely they'd be expected to know him even better than online posters and surely their psychic spidey sense should have worked and allowed them to know he was super serious by virtue of their proximity.

Sir Gallagher

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I have dibbsies on the novel and movie based on this.
You all heard it. Dibbsies.

Well i bagsy it.. and everyone knows a bagsy holds much more legal weight than a dibbsy!

Acacia

thelordofcheese wrote: »

What a crock of shit.

Guy posts on the internet that he's going to kill himself, why should anyone take it seriously?
The 'net is made up of attention whores and trolls, there is no reason to suspect that anyone who says they are/will do anything on the net is telling the truth.

Frankly, trying to make comments made in a setting where there is no way to ascertain how serious anyone is being carry some kind of legal weight is fuckin' retarded.

Double also - someone going out of their way to fuck with someone and an attention whore on a forum are not comparable.

I see your point, and I agree you definitely can't trust people on the internet.

However, if you look at it from the point of view that a suicidal person is obviously not in a healthy state of mind- perhaps it really was a 'cry for help' and not attention-whoring? Who can say?

While the people egging him on can't really be legally blamed for his death ( as in fairness, maybe some of them thought he was joking around), I find the thought of encouraging somebody to kill themselves ( even if it is just a stranger on a message board) a very sick thing to do.

What if the guy had been claiming he was going to kill a child, or rape somebody? Would they be also encouraging him then? Just a thought.

PeakOutput

thelordofcheese wrote: »

For what exactly?

for being stupid ****es

Red Sleeping Beauty

Biggins wrote: »

News story - one example link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6296079



Because of this one case egging on a suicide or being an indirect cause of it, can lead to you being charged.
The laws are being further amended to include bullying/egging one someone.

We are slow but what America does, 10 years later, we get to include similar, later in our own laws... eventually!

Bullying on the internet is now going to be illegal ? Boards.ie would want to tighten up security then.

funk-you wrote: »

What kind of asshole do you have to be to egg someone on like that EVEN if you think they might be faking?

-Funk

Wouldn't surprise me if some of the morons on this forum did the same thing.

RugbyFanatic

bodybuilding.com misc is renowned for this sort of thing.

They are 2 days away from having a forum member on the Real world on MTV.

They have regular forum members who bang chicks and post up videos

They found out a forum member did gay porn and mass emailed his dad the link

A forum member found out his gf was cheating they all proceeded to ruin her life (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6W3H8_v52E skip to 2.12mins)

A forum member was going out with another forum member, had a fight she keyed his car the forum member proceeded to post up pics of her with his jizz on her face and proceeded to get her fired from her job

and now this

Sir Gallagher

Acacia wrote: »

I see your point, and I agree you definitely can't trust people on the internet.

However, if you look at it from the point of view that a suicidal person is obviously not in a healthy state of mind- perhaps it really was a 'cry for help' and not attention-whoring? Who can say?

While the people egging him on can't really be legally blamed for his death ( as in fairness, maybe some of them thought he was joking around), I find the thought of encouraging somebody to kill themselves ( even if it is just a stranger on a message board) a very sick thing to do.

What if the guy had been claiming he was going to kill a child, or rape somebody? Would they be also encouraging him then? Just a thought.

He would've killed himself sooner or later, if someone came on here doing the same thing i wouldn't egg him on, nor would i try and help because i simply wouldn't care.

galwayguy22

Why do people say "RIP".

You didn't know him, why do you pretend to care?

He's an idiot for committing suicide anyway. The majority of people who commit suicide are self centered, attention seeking gob****es. Only a tiny amount of people who commit suicide genuinely have nothing left to live for.

Example of attention whore.
Man cuts off own head with chainsaw

Just jump off a cliff or over dose, cleaner and easier for the poor people who have to discover your sorry corpse.

Sir Gallagher

galwayguy22 wrote: »

Why do people say "RIP".

You didn't know him, why do you pretend to care?

He's an idiot for committing suicide anyway. The majority of people who commit suicide are self centered, attention seeking gob****es. Only a tiny amount of people who commit suicide genuinely have nothing left to live for.

Example of attention whore.
Man cuts off own head with chainsaw

Just jump off a cliff or over dose, cleaner and easier for the poor people who have to discover your sorry corpse.

Can't get much attention if you're dead.

Red Sleeping Beauty

galwayguy22 wrote: »

Why do people say "RIP".

You didn't know him, why do you pretend to care?

He's an idiot for committing suicide anyway. The majority of people who commit suicide are self centered, attention seeking gob****es. Only a tiny amount of people who commit suicide genuinely have nothing left to live for.



Just jump off a cliff or over dose, cleaner and easier for the poor people who have to discover your sorry corpse.

Very articulate there galwayguy22 . Thanks for proving my point.

galwayguy22

galwayguy22 wrote: »

Why do people say "RIP".

You didn't know him, why do you pretend to care?

He's an idiot for committing suicide anyway. The majority of people who commit suicide are self centered, attention seeking gob****es. Only a tiny amount of people who commit suicide genuinely have nothing left to live for.

Example of attention whore.
Man cuts off own head with chainsaw

Just jump off a cliff or over dose, cleaner and easier for the poor people who have to discover your sorry corpse.

havn't lost anyone to suicide i see.

Sir Gallagher

Deleted User wrote: »

havn't lost anyone to suicide i see.

He obviously has never commited suicide himself, so he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Sir Gallagher

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

He obviously has never commited suicide himself, so he doesn't know what he's talking about.

lol don't diss it if you havn't tried it

Acacia

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

He would've killed himself sooner or later, if someone came on here doing the same thing i wouldn't egg him on, nor would i try and help because i simply wouldn't care.

That's a charming attitude to have. Maybe he wouldn't have committed suicide if somebody on that forum had advised him to seek help (not that it was their responsibility, but they involved themselves in this mess when they egged him on), instead off telling him to 'fcuk off and die', or whatever they said to him.

He was obviously a very mentally disturbed guy and deserved help, not scorn from a bunch of strangers.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

He obviously has never commited suicide himself, so he doesn't know what he's talking about.

galwayguy22 wrote: »

Why do people say "RIP".

You didn't know him, why do you pretend to care?

He's an idiot for committing suicide anyway. The majority of people who commit suicide are self centered, attention seeking gob****es. Only a tiny amount of people who commit suicide genuinely have nothing left to live for.

Example of attention whore.
Man cuts off own head with chainsaw

Just jump off a cliff or over dose, cleaner and easier for the poor people who have to discover your sorry corpse.

I have to say your attitudes disgust me.

How dare you call suicide victims 'attention-seeking' and 'self-centered'. You clearly have no idea of what it's like to suffer from severe suicidal depression. Or talked to a person who lost somebody to suicide.

And by the way finding a suicide victim's corpse is never 'cleaner or easier' no matter what the method is.

Please don't spread your mis-informed ideas about such a sensitive topic.

Kinetic^

Spunge wrote: »

AN HERO

AN INTERWEB HERO!

Sir Gallagher

Acacia wrote: »

That's a charming attitude to have. Maybe he wouldn't have committed suicide if somebody on that forum had advised him to seek help (not that it was their responsibility, but they involved themselves in this mess when they egged him on), instead off telling him to 'fcuk off and die', or whatever they said to him.

He was obviously a very mentally disturbed guy and deserved help, not scorn from a bunch of strangers.





I have to say your attitude disgusts me. How dare you call suicide victims 'attention-seeking' and 'self-centered'. You clearly have no idea of what it's like to suffer from severe suicidal depression. Or talked to a person who lost somebody to suicide.

And by the way finding a suicide victim's corpse is never 'cleaner or easier' no matter what the method is.

Fair enough, you don't care about some stranger on the internet, but please don't spread your mis-informed ideas about such a sensitive topic.

I don't condone people egging him on and what not obviously these people are as5holes, but for some people to turn around and say they should be arrested is just reactionary sh!te! I think the whole situation is fairly tragic but i won't be losing any sleep over it.

Acacia

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I don't condone people egging him on and what not obviously these people are as5holes, but for some people to turn around and say they should be arrested is just reactionary sh!te! I think the whole situation is fairly tragic but i won't be losing any sleep over it.

That's fair enough, I was more annoyed at galwayguy's remark, tbh.

I know I won't be losing sleep over it either, I just think it's a bit cold to say 'he would have done it anyway'. If he had sought professional help, instead posting on an internet forum which is clearly full of a$$holes then maybe he wouldn't have done it. If the forum members had been more considerate , he might not have done it.

AFAIK ( this is what I've read about it anyway), a person who has suicidal thoughts is never sure that they want to die, that is, there is doubt in their minds right up to the last minute, so who knows? Maybe he wouldn't have done it anyway, if the people on the forum didn't egg him on.

I did say they couldn't be held legally responsible though.

If it was me who egged him on, I know I couldn't sleep at night anyway.

Chucky the tree

My first re-action was "meh, if he wanted to do it cant do much to stop him" but then I actually read the thread and was left with a pretty sick feeling in my stomach.

Here's the first 4 pages:
Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

Page 4


If want to read the whole thread type the following into google.

bodybuilding com od again X

X = page number you want. Then click of the cached link.

I suggest people who are loling about it, give it a read. Some of the comments in there are sickening. If you anyway senseitive I'd avoid it, your faith in human nature will be gone after you read it aswell.

Heres a timeline of the whole incident.

Timeline:
2:56am - OP posts thread
3:17am - OP posts what he has taken: "8 bars, 16 mg(of xanax),I've had 7 roxies and 3 ultram and now I have lexapro left"
3:18am - OP posts sucided not
3:35am - Someone says "should someone call the cops?"
3:49am- "Is OP still alive?"
3:51am - "I just saw him fapping off his black cawk on cam, looked slightly green...." last post on the thread until

10:04am - Someone posts "Still laying there" With a link to the webcam.
10:24am - Poster suggest he isnt breathing, top not moving
10:31am - Poster Alexnipples(AN for further) says it looks like he isnt breathing

It's about now various posters start realising somethings definitly wrong.

10:58am - AN says he's alerted two mods, sends pm with thread link and webcam link
11:00am - Moderator Roxie replies to AN PM with "He's an attention whore etc etc" Doesnt click on the thread or the wecam I presume, basically ignores it
11:04am - Moderator Sawastea says infro has been sent to Admins(I presume)

11:04am - Roxie posts in the thread "Hes made these threads and deleted them before."
11:05am - AN tells roxie to look at the stream
11:05am - IVEverLow says he might have potential phone no. posts links

11:09am - Moderator roxie replies too AN 11:05am posts with "My apologies, I had no idea he had this live.." clearly ignore info in PM
11:50am - "Are you gonna OD on cock?"
11:53am - Posters 'Bulker' finds his info, puts up OP's phone number and asks someone to call the cops(posters lives in India)
11:56am - One poster says "Can I have his reps if he's dead?"

12:00pm - Antoher posters types "I like his little black ass, its so cute in them little shorts. I've been fapping, its on loop must be?"
12:09pm - 'Bulker' posts the info for the City of miami police department, phone no, address etc. tried emailing them but it failed.

12:32am 'Bulker' rings miami police from India(he couldnt make int. calls from his house so he had to find a phone) and Miami police just gave him a number and told him to ring the local sheriffs dept.
12:47am 'Bulker' urges a poster who typed "I've been watching almost 2 hrs and he has not moved.." to call the police and provides the number

12:55am - 'jjlee138' says he called Brower County sheriffs and they are on it.
13:31pm - first report of the cops being on the scene is posted


Poster 'AlexNipples' has a "banned" under his name now on the forum

Red Sleeping Beauty

Good post there Chunky. I've seen the "people who commit suicide are self centered" rubbish on other forums so it's not just unique to this one. The internet really does lack emotion. It's surreal some of the things you see. There's such a high degree of cynicism and sarcasm and perversion.

Put this in a public context, imagine seeing someone commit suicide right before you , in person. Would people really be egging that person on "c'mon, hang yourself , cmon you useless piece of shit". I don't know if you could say the internet causes x,y or z. It sure does amplify some more disturbing realities though

Acacia

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

Good post there Chunky. I've seen the "people who commit suicide are self centered" rubbish on other forums so it's not just unique to this one. The internet really does lack emotion. It's surreal some of the things you see. There's such a high degree of cynicism and sarcasm and perversion.

Put this in a public context, imagine seeing someone commit suicide right before you , in person. Would people really be egging that person on "c'mon, hang yourself , cmon you useless piece of shit". I don't know if you could say the internet causes x,y or z. It sure does amplify some more disturbing realities though

+1

Seems people can just act the hard man behind a screen, thinking they're really tough and so cool because ''like, they don't care''. I've seen this type of attitude on the internet in general, in relation to other topics, not just suicide.

Makes you wonder about the state of the world, it really does. Are people that desensitized that watching somebody die on their screens has no effect on them?

johnnyskeleton

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats really sick. I can never understand the mentality of people who do that. And it's not the first suicide to be egged on and it probably wont be the last. The people who egged should be arrested.

It's arguably a criminal offence - accessory to committing suicide.

Red Sleeping Beauty

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

It's arguably a criminal offence - accessory to committing suicide.

Whatever I think about the moral implications, I can't see it being illegal to say to someone "yeah go on, kill yourself". Although, if it were a murder then it would be a more clearer black/white issue.

giggsy664

Chucky the tree wrote: »

My first re-action was "meh, if he wanted to do it cant do much to stop him" but then I actually read the thread and was left with a pretty sick feeling in my stomach.

Here's the first 4 pages:
Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

Page 4


If want to read the whole thread type the following into google.

bodybuilding com od again X

X = page number you want. Then click of the cached link.

I suggest people who are loling about it, give it a read. Some of the comments in there are sickening. If you anyway senseitive I'd avoid it, your faith in human nature will be gone after you read it aswell.

Heres a timeline of the whole incident.

Timeline:
2:56am - OP posts thread
3:17am - OP posts what he has taken: "8 bars, 16 mg(of xanax),I've had 7 roxies and 3 ultram and now I have lexapro left"
3:18am - OP posts sucided not
3:35am - Someone says "should someone call the cops?"
3:49am- "Is OP still alive?"
3:51am - "I just saw him fapping off his black cawk on cam, looked slightly green...." last post on the thread until

10:04am - Someone posts "Still laying there" With a link to the webcam.
10:24am - Poster suggest he isnt breathing, top not moving
10:31am - Poster Alexnipples(AN for further) says it looks like he isnt breathing

It's about now various posters start realising somethings definitly wrong.

10:58am - AN says he's alerted two mods, sends pm with thread link and webcam link
11:00am - Moderator Roxie replies to AN PM with "He's an attention whore etc etc" Doesnt click on the thread or the wecam I presume, basically ignores it
11:04am - Moderator Sawastea says infro has been sent to Admins(I presume)

11:04am - Roxie posts in the thread "Hes made these threads and deleted them before."
11:05am - AN tells roxie to look at the stream
11:05am - IVEverLow says he might have potential phone no. posts links

11:09am - Moderator roxie replies too AN 11:05am posts with "My apologies, I had no idea he had this live.." clearly ignore info in PM
11:50am - "Are you gonna OD on cock?"
11:53am - Posters 'Bulker' finds his info, puts up OP's phone number and asks someone to call the cops(posters lives in India)
11:56am - One poster says "Can I have his reps if he's dead?"

12:00pm - Antoher posters types "I like his little black ass, its so cute in them little shorts. I've been fapping, its on loop must be?"
12:09pm - 'Bulker' posts the info for the City of miami police department, phone no, address etc. tried emailing them but it failed.

12:32am 'Bulker' rings miami police from India(he couldnt make int. calls from his house so he had to find a phone) and Miami police just gave him a number and told him to ring the local sheriffs dept.
12:47am 'Bulker' urges a poster who typed "I've been watching almost 2 hrs and he has not moved.." to call the police and provides the number

12:55am - 'jjlee138' says he called Brower County sheriffs and they are on it.
13:31pm - first report of the cops being on the scene is posted


Poster 'AlexNipples' has a "banned" under his name now on the forum

Oh my god. I was sweating just Reading that. Omfg.

Red Sleeping Beauty

I'm going start using L33t speak in person. Let's see how far I'll get.

Sharpshooter

giggsy664 wrote: »

Oh my god. I was sweating just Reading that. Omfg.

Jeeze , AHs is Saint city compared to that lot.:(