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World Peace Vs Anaesthetic

  • 19-11-2008 11:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭


    God (or some equivalent being) makes the offer of world peace everywhere forever, on the condition that nobody is to be allowed use any form of anaesthetic or painkiller or drugs in general for surgical procedures, toothaches, depression or boredom. Ever. Would you accept?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Tom65


    I'd tell God to stop acting the prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    No fúcking way. The devil you know etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    By offering world peace is he going to solve all our economic and idealogical differences? If so then yeah, I'd go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    Shouldn't a divine being perfect in every way be able to come up with a solution to world peace which wouldnt leave everyone terrified to go to the doctor, not to mention not being able to drink ever again.

    Dare I say such a "God" would not be a "God" at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    HELL NO.

    What the hell do I care about Americans and Iraqis I don't know getting blown up? If I need to have surgery (again) I'm not gonna sacrifice my anesthetic or my morphine just so they can survive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    spylon wrote: »
    the offer of world peace everywhere forever,

    what about the workers in the CND sticker factory ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭spylon


    TomCo wrote: »
    Shouldn't a divine being perfect in every way be able to come up with a solution to world peace which wouldnt leave everyone terrified to go to the doctor, not to mention not being able to drink ever again.

    Dare I say such a "God" would not be a "God" at all?

    Maybe s(he) would be just testing our mettle? Our (less likely), just having the absolute craic?

    Maybe, then, when a majority refused the offer, God might reconsider the alcohol and drugs bit, but only for recreational purposes. How would that sit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭deleriumtremens


    Did you ever go in for a filling in the dentists and you can feel the drill very close to the nerve...and you're thinking "what if her hand slips...it would be agony!!" I dont want someone messing about in my mouth with a drill without some sort of anaesthetic, despite the fact that my 18th and 19th century ancestors probably had to put up with it!
    I know im eventually going to have to succumb to the ravages of heart disease or cancer but I'm still planning on running from that truth as long as I can! And when my body does eventually become riddled with tumours, I'm sure I'l be wanting to reach for the morphine, as will everbody else.

    So no, if god (the basturd!) did offer us that choice, I'd say forget world peace!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Do 'surgical procedures' include radical surgery like open heart and stuff? They have to saw open your rib cage....you'd die with shock! :eek:.
    If it's just routine procedures like broken limb manoeverings, removing cysts by keyhole surgery and ingrown toenail removal, t'would still be mad sore. However folk did it years ago I suppose. I'd say in battlefields gangrenous limbs were amputated without anaesthetics. People probably fainted and woke up after it was all over. You'd have to weigh up the number of people that would die from refusing life saving procedures like growth removal because of fear of going through it without pain relief and people who would actually die from shock during it against the number of people who are dying from world wars to make a decision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    I think somebody has been watching too much Equilibrium.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I wanna be a grammaton cleric when I grow up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭damonjewel


    spylon wrote: »
    God (or some equivalent being) makes the offer of world peace everywhere forever, on the condition that nobody is to be allowed use any form of anaesthetic or painkiller or drugs in general for surgical procedures, toothaches, depression or boredom. Ever. Would you accept?


    In Dostoesky's "The Brother karamazov" it is put to the younger brother Alexei (Aloysha) who is a monk, that all the worlds ills are saved, if you allow the toture/murder of a child? Could you allow it?

    Aloysha of course cannot

    Could you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    MooseJam wrote: »
    I wanna be a grammaton cleric when I grow up.

    I want to be Christian Bale when I grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    OP, 6 weeks ago I got a pleurectomy. In a nut shell, its an operation where they stripped the lining of my right lung, snipped off the top 2-3mm of the lung, and used tiny little metallic pins to stitch the top of the lung back together. Then they stuck an 8 inch tube in through my rib cage, feeding up to the top of my chest wall. This was used to drain fluid from my lung and to re-inflate it to 100%.

    If God was to ring me up and ask me what you proposed in your original post, I'd have to tell him to GTFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭bean


    the body is supposed to go into shock if pain gets too bad..how many times have you relied on pain killers in the last month or two?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭bean


    bean wrote: »
    the body is supposed to go into shock if pain gets too bad..how many times have you relied on pain killers in the last month or two?

    then again i might have to goto the dentist next month...dammit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    I can imagine getting an operation on my spine without Anaesthetic...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Zangetsu


    Natural life ftw, until that day I'm gonna keep self medicating.


    (see what I did there?!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Fizman wrote: »
    OP, 6 weeks ago I got a pleurectomy. In a nut shell, its an operation where they stripped the lining of my right lung, snipped off the top 2-3mm of the lung, and used tiny little metallic pins to stitch the top of the lung back together. Then they stuck an 8 inch tube in through my rib cage, feeding up to the top of my chest wall. This was used to drain fluid from my lung and to re-inflate it to 100%.

    If God was to ring me up and ask me what you proposed in your original post, I'd have to tell him to GTFO.
    Want a cigarette?

    The world would be a boring place if it was peaceful and we woul all be like the people in that Jehova's witness picture.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'd conditionally accept the offer of world peace, and then try and undercut him by doing a deal with another monotheistic deity.


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