N95 or i-phone

rotinaj

Currently have a n95 8gb but was offered a swop for a i-phone. Would I be better off keeping the n95 or swopping?

aidan_walsh

What do you use the phone for? (Which functions, that is.)

rotinaj

aidan_walsh wrote: »

What do you use the phone for? (Which functions, that is.)

internet, listening to music, taking pics. Oh ya and phone calls 2:D

Mimikyu

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monty_python

keep your n95. they are miles better than an iphone

sdanseo

Definately keep the N95. Iphone is useless tbph.

rotinaj

Solitaryman666 wrote: »

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Ya tis me only camera

Mimikyu

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rotinaj

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Didnt know it only had such a basic camera. I will stick with the nokia.

asdasd

i have to look up the n96, supposedly better than an iPhone.

Here it is. What a primitive thing.

The map software is from 1982, is it?

Mimikyu

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asdasd

Just to be clear, Nokias are ****e. The real compeition in the phone space will be comanies like Apple. Google and possibly MS ( if they get their act together) who realize that a phone is a portable OS device. A computer. Nokia's "OS" is not scalable. It is primitive. They should stick to low end machines where they have some traction.

Mimikyu

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rotinaj

asdasd wrote: »

i have to look up the n96, supposedly better than an iPhone.

Here it is. What a primitive thing.

The map software is from 1982, is it?

Yes I know what it looks like. I have it in front of me

asdasd wrote: »

Just to be clear, Nokias are ****e. The real compeition in the phone space will be comanies like Apple. Google and possibly MS ( if they get their act together) who realize that a phone is a portable OS device. A computer. Nokia's "OS" is not scalable. It is primitive. They should stick to low end machines where they have some traction.

What in the name of god are you trying to say.. Have you been at the drinks cabinet??

strecker

asdasd wrote: »

Just to be clear, Nokias are ****e. The real compeition in the phone space will be comanies like Apple. Google and possibly MS ( if they get their act together) who realize that a phone is a portable OS device. A computer. Nokia's "OS" is not scalable. It is primitive. They should stick to low end machines where they have some traction.

you are nuts... and I'm saying that with all the due care and respect! is it drink? :P
what is a portable os device anyways? man... keep them coming!

Oafley Jones

asdasd wrote: »

Just to be clear, Nokias are ****e. The real compeition in the phone space will be comanies like Apple. Google and possibly MS ( if they get their act together) who realize that a phone is a portable OS device. A computer. Nokia's "OS" is not scalable. It is primitive. They should stick to low end machines where they have some traction.

LOL at the use of 'traction'. Very poor attempt at a wind-up.

asdasd

what is a portable os device anyways? man... keep them coming!

OS = operating system. Something that Apple can do, and well, and Nokia cannot. Whcih is why you dont have on on your PC, nor will you. So in the future as the iPhone develops , and Google android too, and possibly MS their phones wil be as powerful as modern day computers, and unless Nokia actually hires people who can write operating systems for what are in effect portable computers then they will wither, and die.

There is the low end market still available.

asdasd

LOL at the use of 'traction'.

lol at your inablilty to understand a word which I used correctly in that context.

strecker

asdasd wrote: »

OS = operating system. Something that Apple can do, and well, and Nokia cannot. Whcih is why you dont have on on your PC, nor will you. So in the future as the iPhone develops , and Google android too, and possibly MS their phones wil be as powerful as modern day computers, and unless Nokia actually hires people who can write operating systems for what are in effect portable computers then they will wither, and die.

There is the low end market still available.

is that why iphone can't multitask/copy/paste/plug'n'play? the iphone is a niche fashion device, and apple have a long long way to go before they can touch (pun) even wm, not to mention nokia, who sell in a week what apple sell in a year! you have been over-exposed to iphone-hype and other bs... I recommend....oh, nothing, really :P

Ghost Train

well i find the n95 does most of the things the iphone does, and it easier to connect with other devices and get files on and off. It has more features packed into it

the iphone interface, web browser and wifi are better than the nokia, but the nokia still does a reasonable job and has features that apple forgot about which is annoying

there both good devices, not much reason to switch from the n95 to the iphone i think

Mimikyu

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strecker

eolhc wrote: »

well i find the n95 does most of the things the iphone does, and it easier to connect with other devices and get files on and off. It has more features packed into it

the iphone interface, web browser and wifi are better than the nokia, but the nokia still does a reasonable job and has features that apple forgot about which is annoying

there both good devices, not much reason to switch from the n95 to the iphone i think

the iphone's browser is better because the screens so nice, big and shiny! it is not really that great! and in fact, most of the latest nokia brigade like the e71 handle a lot more sites than the iphone. the iphone is all about presentation/image/looks.... it's not even a real phone hahaha!
I'll stop now; whenever the iphone enters a thread, common sense evaporates....
bye

asdasd

is that why iphone can't multitask/copy/paste/plug'n'play? the iphone is a niche fashion device, and apple have a long long way to go before they can touch (pun) even wm, not to mention nokia, who sell in a week what apple sell in a year! you have been over-exposed to iphone-hype and other bs... I recommend....oh, nothing, really

since OS X can do all of those things the reason to take these things out was driven by memory, UI, or battery life considerations. It is not an intrinsiic limitation of the operating system which runs on the iPhone which is aversion of OS X. Early developement versions of the iPhone probably had multi-tasking. On a phone that is not so desirable, so they too it out.

In any case we are at iPhone 1.1.x with updates every few months. In the future these limitations will be removed ( with the exception of the multitaksing, apps wil have the ability to get updates when not running via some Apple controlled process). In reality the fact that Apple competes against the top end Nokia machines after one iteration tells the future itself. How long have Nokia been at this?

I am talking about the future OS for smart phones. In a decade it is between - in terms of the OS - Android and the OS X phone version. Nokia is really a hardware manufacturer and symbian wont compete in that market. Nokia may use Android, of course.

( Of course I think Android, being more open, may well prevail).

strecker

asdasd wrote: »

since OS X can do all of those things the reason to take these things out was driven by memory, UI, or battery life considerations. It is not an intrinsiic limitation of the operating system which runs on the iPhone which is aversion of OS X. Early developement versions of the iPhone probably had multi-tasking. On a phone that is not so desirable, so they too it out. (***what???***)

In any case we are at iPhone 1.1.x with updates every few months. In the future these limitations will be removed ( with the exception of the multitaksing, apps wil have the ability to get updates when not running via some Apple controlled process). In reality the fact that Apple competes against the top end Nokia machines after one iteration tells the future itself. How long have Nokia been at this?

I am talking about the future OS for smart phones. In a decade it is between - in terms of the OS - Android and the OS X phone version. Nokia is really a hardware manufacturer and symbian wont compete in that market. Nokia may use Android, of course.

( Of course I think Android, being more open, may well prevail).

you are kidding, right?
how can you know all those words, and yet make know sense? any experts here? :D

"multitasking is not desirable on a phone"? what is wrong with you???

Victor_M

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Definately keep the N95. Iphone is useless tbph.

tbph you are talking through your ar$e!

N95 is a flawed phone just as the Iphone is.

It's way too fat, opens & answers calls in your pocket, flimsy (my mates one is held together by sellotape) & sluggish. Crap GPS, very good camera for a phone but only for a phone crap as a camera. It's not about megapixels it's optics!

Iphone is flawed that's for sure, but as a Phone/Internet/Music/Email/Gadget solution all in package it almost as good as it gets, hence all of the Iphone killer wannabes out there.

Victor_M

strecker wrote: »

is that why iphone can't multitask/copy/paste/plug'n'play? the iphone is a niche fashion device, and apple have a long long way to go before they can touch (pun) even wm, not to mention nokia, who sell in a week what apple sell in a year! you have been over-exposed to iphone-hype and other bs... I recommend....oh, nothing, really :P

Ever used a WM phone? They are atrocious - Multitasking is great on a device with ample processing power and RAM, which most portable devices are sorely lacking.

Tom Dunne

strecker wrote: »

I'll stop now; whenever the iphone enters a thread, common sense evaporates....
bye

So true. All of the arguments here are essentially, "Teh iPhone is bleedin' crap, it's only for posers".

So let me give you a "posers" angle. I wanted a device that keeps me entertained on the train - music, internet and videos. I also wanted a device that would allow me to send text messages and make the occasional phonecall and indulge in a spot of Instant Messaging. For me, the iPhone does all that, and does it with style.

I have recently downloaded AllRadio - streaming radio, when used with a data add-on, negates the need for an FM radio. As for the camera, I think I have taken five photos since I got the iPhone, four of them were on the day I got the phone. I have no need for a camera, I don't do MMS, I don't need GPS, I am still debating whether I really need 3G.

So, despite it's shortcomings, the iPhone fullfills my needs. As I have said so many times on this forum, to all the detractors, it's all about what you want to do with your phone, not what other people's perceptions are.

asdasd wrote: »

since OS X can do all of those things the reason to take these things out was driven by memory, UI, or battery life considerations. It is not an intrinsiic limitation of the operating system which runs on the iPhone which is aversion of OS X. Early developement versions of the iPhone probably had multi-tasking. On a phone that is not so desirable, so they too it out.

In any case we are at iPhone 1.1.x with updates every few months. In the future these limitations will be removed ( with the exception of the multitaksing, apps wil have the ability to get updates when not running via some Apple controlled process). In reality the fact that Apple competes against the top end Nokia machines after one iteration tells the future itself. How long have Nokia been at this?

I am talking about the future OS for smart phones. In a decade it is between - in terms of the OS - Android and the OS X phone version. Nokia is really a hardware manufacturer and symbian wont compete in that market. Nokia may use Android, of course.

( Of course I think Android, being more open, may well prevail).

I have read all of your posts, several times over and still can't comprehend what you are attempting to contribute to the debate as to whether the OP should get and iPhone or stick with an n95.

asdasd

"multitasking is not desirable on a phone"? what is wrong with you???

Because of the effect on battery life. The potential for third party developers to abuse the system is what worried Apple. Any application running in the background can consume cpu and battery life.

The iphone can multi-task in fact, that is what happens when a phone call comes in. The original application is suspended. Another application comes to the front ( the telephone application) and then switches back when finished.

I dont necessarliy agree with the decision particularly because it of the effect it has on not-very technical people who are scrambling for reasons to dislike the iPhone.

asdasd

I have read all of your posts, several times over and still can't comprehend what you are attempting to contribute to the debate as to whether the OP should get and iPhone or stick with an n95.

Yeah I moved a bit off thread. I am really arguing against people who think the iPhone a "toy". It is far from it.

But I leave the thread to go back on topic. :-)

strecker

asdasd wrote: »

Yeah I moved a bit off thread. I am really arguing against people who think the iPhone a "toy". It is far from it.

But I leave the thread to go back on topic. :-)

but that's why the op should stick with the N: the iphone is a toy! apple are not ready to build an affordable mass-market(-able) phone; that's why they released a purposefully handicapped fashion-pod!

Ghost Train

strecker wrote: »

the iphone's browser is better because the screens so nice, big and shiny! it is not really that great! and in fact, most of the latest nokia brigade like the e71 handle a lot more sites than the iphone. the iphone is all about presentation/image/looks.... it's not even a real phone hahaha!
I'll stop now; whenever the iphone enters a thread, common sense evaporates....
bye

I don't have an iPhone I have a nokia... But you can't dismiss the iPhone as not being a phone. Yes the fact it has a big screen helps make it a good web browser... I don't see how what I said lacked common sense.... You seem to have iPhone issues dude

strecker

eolhc wrote: »

I don't have an iPhone I have a nokia... But you can't dismiss the iPhone as not being a phone. Yes the fact it has a big screen helps make it a good web browser... I don't see how what I said lacked common sense.... You seem to have iPhone issues dude

I do, dude ....And
that is because nothing except for, maybe, religion and sex has ever so badly influenced human reasoning!

Victor_M

strecker wrote: »

I do, dude ....And
that is because nothing except for, maybe, religion and sex has ever so badly influenced human reasoning!

You're talking like a mad man - Just because you are getting frustrated that not everyone on here is subscribing to your anti-iphone campaign.

badly influenced human reasoning - or maybe it's actually a very good device.

seanybiker

OP if I was you I would stick with the N95. I have it meself and I love it. Was a throw up between Iphone and N95 and Im delighted I picked the Nokia. The whole touch screen thing just doesnt interest me at all. I want buttons. I have used the Iphone, in my opinion its alright but would not take one for free if I was offered it, well I would but I'd stick it up on fleabay straight away.
Nokia have always been the best and are always going to be the best.

seraphimvc

well ,for me i will always stick to Nokia,truly usable mobile phone wins my heart.

tbh there is always one word comes up on my mind when all the mobile phones' function people are talking about :laptop.

how would you enjoy a web browsing on that tiny screen???and type email with keypad :(laptop wins everything hands down.wah,you need it when you are on a train?your cheap mp3 player+ texting with normal phone will do.go home use your 20'' LCD desktop or 15'' laptop.and eh,iphone has a big screen??maybe a tiny bit bigger than my old PDA.but the price?:pac:

iphone is the dumbest thing i have ever seen.i had a PDA before.touch screen,online,multitasking - big deal,i did it back in 2004.didnt like the PDA abit,reasons as mentioned above.

get a real phone.use your laptop for work.get a camera for photo.use ipod for music(yes i have no choice cause' it is the best mp3 player out there,cheap with high cap).

seanybiker

seraphimvc wrote:

ipod for music(yes i have no choice cause' it is the best mp3 player out there,cheap with high cap).

Not a chance. Ipods are brutal. Creative zen anyday

condra

Predictably enough, there is a serious lack of objectivity in this thread.

I have experience with both. I sold my N95 for an iPhone, and here are my thoughts.

I miss the superb camera on the N95, but don't miss the look and feel of the handset, the buggy OS, or the loose slider action.

The iPhone is one of the most visually stunning phones out there. Very slick.

Touch screen phones like the iPhone, suck for texting on the move (walking or in a car) Actually, unless you're standing still, or sitting comfortably, with two hands free, touch screen phones SUCK for texting.

The iPhone support community is fantastic, as are the official support and features from Apple and the App store. The opposite could be said for Nokia IMO. Nobody should need to be a geek to use a mobile phone.

Apples shoddy bluetooth, locked to 1 computer, and itunes etc, thing is evil and anti competitive, but people are voting with their wallets, and buying the iPhone anyway.
The Nokia can be used like a portable hard drive, with any computer. This is the way it should be.

So in my opinion
-The n95 is a phone for cash strapped geeks, who expect real value for money, and are prepared sort out the occassional hitch.
-The iPhone is for style concious people who don't want to have to think how to use their phone, but expect things to "just work", even if it costs a bit extra for the pleasure.

So it's horses for courses rather than a matter of opinion.

Rsaeire

womoma wrote: »

Predictably enough, there is a serious lack of objectivity in this thread.

I have experience with both. I sold my N95 for an iPhone, and here are my thoughts.

I miss the superb camera on the N95, but don't miss the look and feel of the handset, the buggy OS, or the loose slider action.

The iPhone is one of the most visually stunning phones out there. Very slick.

Touch screen phones like the iPhone, suck for texting on the move (walking or in a car) Actually, unless you're standing still, or sitting comfortably, with two hands free, touch screen phones SUCK for texting.

The iPhone support community is fantastic, as are the official support and features from Apple and the App store. The opposite could be said for Nokia IMO. Nobody should need to be a geek to use a mobile phone.

Apples shoddy bluetooth, locked to 1 computer, and itunes etc, thing is evil and anti competitive, but people are voting with their wallets, and buying the iPhone anyway.
The Nokia can be used like a portable hard drive, with any computer. This is the way it should be.

So in my opinion
-The n95 is a phone for cash strapped geeks, who expect real value for money, and are prepared sort out the occassional hitch.
-The iPhone is for style concious people who don't want to have to think how to use their phone, but expect things to "just work", even if it costs a bit extra for the pleasure.

So it's horses for courses rather than a matter of opinion.

I must say, this is one of the most objective, honest and succinct breakdowns between the iPhone and any handset I have read on Boards.

"So it's horses for courses rather than a matter of opinion". This statement alone I couldn't agree with more. Again, well said.

besty

I can simply say that I got an N95 a couple of weeks ago and love it. I have never owned an iPhone so can't comment on it to any great extent. I don't think you would be disappointed with the Nokia if you did decide to go for it.

Kristok

Victor_M wrote: »

tbph you are talking through your ar$e!

N95 is a flawed phone just as the Iphone is.

It's way too fat, opens & answers calls in your pocket, flimsy (my mates one is held together by sellotape) & sluggish. Crap GPS, very good camera for a phone but only for a phone crap as a camera. It's not about megapixels it's optics!

I would suggest your mates n95 is the older silver one the black one fixed the problem with the battery cover breaking off. As for the optics dosnt it have carl zeiss optics in it.

Whats wrong with the gps ? Seems great to me, ive used tomtom on it and the nokia and google maps and all seemed to work perfectly.

Personally dont see why there is so much hype over the iphone on paper my black n95 is miles ahead of the iphone. Iphone is fine but if your asking which is better in my opinion n95/n96 are in a different league to the iphone.

Rob_l

Rsaeire wrote: »

I must say, this is one of the most objective, honest and succinct breakdowns between the iPhone and any handset I have read on Boards.

"So it's horses for courses rather than a matter of opinion". This statement alone I couldn't agree with more. Again, well said.

Yeah spot on womoma's post was a decent one, while I might agree with all the points of the post, its not just anti iphone for some reason which has nothing at all to do with the actual handset

strecker

Rsaeire wrote: »

I must say, this is one of the most objective, honest and succinct breakdowns between the iPhone and any handset I have read on Boards.

"So it's horses for courses rather than a matter of opinion". This statement alone I couldn't agree with more. Again, well said.

'objective'? Is it? Womoma may have been nice and friendly in tone, but objective? Describing the looks of the n95 and then saying the iphone's prettier, is so trivial! You know what a phone looks like before you buy it. Heck, they even put pics on the boxes! 'n95 is for cash-strapped geeks'? Hello! Reality?!!!! Look around who's using the N95? And what was the original price for the n95/n95 8gb?

Better support from apple than from nokia?
Buggy N fw?
Apple, as we speak is being sued for the flaw riddled 3g iphone!
Objective?
But...I give up! I said it before: when the iphone enters, objectivity takes a nap. And btw, I owned both the n95 and n95 8gb, and they just didn't do it for me. Simple as that. Slider 4x3 is as bad for miles of texting as a touchscreen.

Rsaeire

strecker wrote: »

'objective'? Is it? Womoma may have been nice and friendly in tone, but objective? Describing the looks of the n95 and then saying the iphone's prettier, is so trivial! You know what a phone looks like before you buy it. Heck, they even put pics on the boxes! 'n95 is for cash-strapped geeks'? Hello! Reality?!!!! Look around who's using the N95? And what was the original price for the n95/n95 8gb?

Better support from apple than from nokia?
Buggy N fw?
Apple, as we speak is being sued for the flaw riddled 3g iphone!
Objective?
But...I give up! I said it before: when the iphone enters, objectivity takes a nap. And btw, I owned both the n95 and n95 8gb, and they just didn't do it for me. Simple as that. Slider 4x3 is as bad for miles of texting as a touchscreen.

You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

I might be of the opinion that your post was riddled with superfluous use of punctuation, excessive grammatical mistakes and an overzealous tone, but, as previously mentioned, it would only be my opinion.

Tom Dunne

seraphimvc wrote: »

tbh there is always one word comes up on my mind when all the mobile phones' function people are talking about :laptop.

Question for you - how often do you commute on the train? I do it every day. Whipping out the laptop while squashed in like a sardine in a sauna just isn't practical when standing. I can, however, surf on my iPhone while listening to music.

Horses for courses, really.

seraphimvc wrote: »

how would you enjoy a web browsing on that tiny screen???and type email with keypad :(laptop wins everything hands down.wah,you need it when you are on a train?your cheap mp3 player+ texting with normal phone will do.go home use your 20'' LCD desktop or 15'' laptop.and eh,iphone has a big screen??maybe a tiny bit bigger than my old PDA.but the price?:pac:

Do I want to "enjoy" the web experience, or do I want fast, simple access to a couple of websites? I'm not looking for Web 2.0 experience on any mobile device, I am looking for convenient, simple access to the web. And carrying around more than one gadget is so last century.

seraphimvc wrote: »

iphone is the dumbest thing i have ever seen.i had a PDA before.touch screen,online,multitasking - big deal,i did it back in 2004.didnt like the PDA abit,reasons as mentioned above.

Dumbest? Very eloquent of you, backed up with solid facts. :rolleyes:

Again, I ask, have you actually used Pocket Internet Explorer on a PDA? Worlds apart from the N95 browser and the iPhone browser. I would also question just how you got online in 2004? WiFi? Certainly not Edge or 3G, methinks. So your argument is fundamentally flawed. Not everybody wants to be tethered to the PC at home.

seraphimvc wrote: »

get a real phone.use your laptop for work.get a camera for photo.use ipod for music(yes i have no choice cause' it is the best mp3 player out there,cheap with high cap).

Not everybody wants to carry around multiple gadgets. I am willing to compromise for the sake of carrying one gadget, that does all of what I want.

If you want a feature-rich device, with a standard Nokia user interface, go for the N95.

If you want a device that performs a limited number of features, but performs them with plenty of eye-candy, then go for the iPhone.

There is no comparison between the N95 and the iPhone, simple as that.

strecker

Rsaeire wrote: »

You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

I might be of the opinion that your post was riddled with superfluous use of punctuation, excessive grammatical mistakes and an overzealous tone, but, as previously mentioned, it would only be my opinion.

Might and would.............thats jus' fine widd me, as long ass you stick to the thread''ss subject rather than my shortcomings!!!???!!! But I might would suggest that I have noticed a pattern in the way fanboys debate, and guess what: it doesn't work - not even if YOU might do it!
Can one please stick to the thread? Yes, I'm a foreigner who currently types in a rushed and flawful manner, but at least I try to make a point now and again...but go ahead: call immigration!

Rsaeire

strecker wrote: »

Might and would.............thats jus' fine widd me, as long ass you stick to the thread''ss subject rather than my shortcomings!!!???!!! But I might would suggest that I have noticed a pattern in the way fanboys debate, and guess what: it doesn't work - not even if YOU might do it!
Can one please stick to the thread? Yes, I'm a foreigner who currently types in a rushed and flawful manner, but at least I try to make a point now and again...but go ahead: call immigration!

I love the way the term "fanboy" is used when someone's opinion differs from another's. I don't currently use a Nokia or Apple handset, so your point is negated.

Long story short, we're comparing apples and oranges here. It all boils down to the user's requirements. As Tom Dunne mentioned, there's no comparison.

strecker

Rsaeire wrote: »

I love the way the term "fanboy" is used when someone's opinion differs from another's. I don't currently use a Nokia or Apple handset, so your point is negated.

Long story short, we're comparing apples and oranges here. It all boils down to the user's requirements. As Tom Dunne mentioned, there's no comparison.

Yeah.
That's okayable.
even innegateable

Ardent

I'm an owner of an N95 for the last year and a half and I couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone for a couple of weeks but, apart from the bigger screen for watching movies, there was wan't much on it in comparison.

I couldn't live without:

- A great camera which has taken so many great photos on the run and on holidays
- A brilliant GPS device that's helped me find my way on so many occasions
- A great little MP3 playerr whose sound quality is superior to apple products (IMO)
- A great phone (the most important aspect I guess)

My two cents.

fenris

I have an Ipod Touch and a N95 8G - best of both worlds!

The Touch is great for listening to music, audiobooks, reading mails and ebooks, SSH, surfing the web and playing games while watching tripe on TV etc. it is used in this manner for 3-5 hours each day.

N95 is a great phone, organiser that automatically syncs with my laptop via bluetooth, email checker, mobile wifi hotspot, GPS, exercise logger (sportstracker), radio, mp3 player for stuff that is a PITA to load up via itunes (the economist talking edition).

Sometimes you may even want to use both at the same time!

So maybe the either or should be an and!





I use Joiku spot to give mobile internet access to the Touch when I am out and about.

They do different jobs, yes there is some crossover but an important point is that you also have two different batteries removing a single point of failure if you are traveling.

That being said, if I had bought the N95 first I would have had a hard time justifying the Touch.

PhoenixRising

Keep the N95. It is a far superior phone. I have used the iPhone and almost ordered one but decided against it at the last minute.

The iPhone is severely lacking in many areas that the N95 excels in. To name a few issues that swung it for me against the iphone:

- Very poor and limited bluetooth functionality
- No MMS, picture messages etc..
- Poor camera with no flash
- Touch screen texting wasn't to my liking for day-to-day usability
- Reports of poor battery life, although the N95 doesn't really excel here either
- Inability to change tone for texts (afaik, someone may confirm)
- Excessive price and contracts

Nokia have a much better pedigree in building phones and I think this shows. The iPhone, while it's a lovely looking device and does some things very well, it remains a very limited phone missing some very basic features you would expect to find in a high end €500 phone.

Having had my N95 for almost a year and half now, it has served me well but it's time for a change and I've decided to go back to Sony Ericsson and get the new C905.