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  • 07-11-2008 6:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭


    Hey Pi,

    I have been having a few issues recently in my hometown. Im currently studying in Belfast and been having a great time in the place.
    My problem is that whenever i return home which is generally every weekend i sometimes get into a bit of bother.
    It all started one night when a guy who went to school with my younger brother began giving him grief any time he went out. My bro didnt actually do anything to warrant the trouble and barely talked to the guy when he was attending school.
    One night he tried to punch my brother and i ran over and got hit instead. I didnt hit him as i was pretty drunk and he was with a few mates. Now whenever i meet this fella or his mates out they try and get me to fight and in general just give me abuse.
    Fair enough its annoying but i just avoid them. Tonite two of the b**tards waited for me outside a shop and shouted abuse at me, i dint respond and one of the guys proceeded to break the whole rear window wiper off my car.

    the dilemma is that i know who it was, there is cctv footage and even an eyewitness but reporting it could land me in even more sh*t. the boys are part of a gang who could make my life very difficult.

    Im at a loose end i barely go out at home now as its just so much hassle.
    any ideas?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I would expect most replies to be "go to the police"... this may or may not make the situation worse. There are a few ways to deal with this.

    1) Consider them to be bullies and from my experience, dealing with bullies is somewhat simple. Give them a bit of a roughing up. Lets be serious here. If they are being physical with you when they are in a gang, confont them on their own, as they would confront you. In other words, give them a good hiding they won't forget. If they happen to be cowards you will see that they will not touch you again, be careful though as they may retaliate. This is not the most mature way to deal with this situation but sometimes agression does work

    2) Go to the police, this is very civil and may prove to be benificial to you. Although if these people do not care about convictions then it may turn out worse. The police may not do very much. They may give them a warning at the very most. I suggest you go to your local station and make a statement. This will work for you if you happen to take matters further.

    3) Obtain a lawyer, get the evidence needed and procede with a civil case. Sue them for the damage they done to your car. These guys seem like thugs, nothing better to do than to disrupt the peace. A heafty fine will make them think twice about doing it again.

    Whatever you do, make sure you get a copy of that CCTV as soon as possible. This is crucial...

    I am sure there are more options, these are the most obvious to me at the moment.

    I hope you resolve matters soon. Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh



    1) Consider them to be bullies and from my experience, dealing with bullies is somewhat simple. Give them a bit of a roughing up. Lets be serious here. If they are being physical with you when they are in a gang, confont them on their own, as they would confront you. In other words, give them a good hiding they won't forget. If they happen to be cowards you will see that they will not touch you again, be careful though as they may retaliate. This is not the most mature way to deal with this situation but sometimes agression does work
    bad bad bad advice. No offense to either of ye, but the most likely outcome of the OP following this advice is that he gets battered.
    2) Go to the police, this is very civil and may prove to be benificial to you. Although if these people do not care about convictions then it may turn out worse. The police may not do very much. They may give them a warning at the very most. I suggest you go to your local station and make a statement. This will work for you if you happen to take matters further.

    OP, other than not going home, realistically, this is the only option you have available to you. You could ignore them and hope they get bored, if it were me, I'd be on to the cops every time they went near me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Make a report to the Gardai straight away. Explain to them what has happened.

    Even if you decide not to proceed with charges they will have a record so at least if it ever does kick off and the Gardai are involved you are covered to some extent. Plus they can't turn around and say that you were the one causing trouble.

    If they do threaten you again give them a gentle reminder that abusive and threating behaviour is an offence, and the damage that they did to your car is valdalism.

    It might be a good idea to tell them to drop it because if either of you get into trouble both your chances and their chances of ever visiting Australia or the US will be ruined.

    Best of luck.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    1) Consider them to be bullies and from my experience, dealing with bullies is somewhat simple. Give them a bit of a roughing up. Lets be serious here. If they are being physical with you when they are in a gang, confont them on their own, as they would confront you. In other words, give them a good hiding they won't forget.

    Banned for a week for advocating violence.

    OP
    Go to the Garda, if nothing else there will be a record and continue to go to them every time something happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    Banned for a week for advocating violence.
    .

    I read the same mail, and no, i don't think that violence was being advocated.

    The poster simply outlined the 3 possible routes of action as he saw. And the poster commented that it wasn't the most mature way of dealing with it either.

    IMO he wasnt advocating it , simply laying out the possible routes of action the OP could choose. Now given that the poster is being attacked, both verbally and physically, surely it is the case that meeting violence with violence is a possible route? Its called self defence and enshrined in law.

    i know that you dont like violence advocated, on this board. Surely however you accept that defending yourself against aggression is at least one possible solution ?

    Back to the poster, I personnally dont advocate taking the law into your own hands either. i would say try the legal route, or if you have mutual aquantances, perhaps somene might internvene on your behalf? (In a non vilent manner of course).

    X


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Frelance


    thanks for the replies :)

    Violence is last option unfortunately, Despite the fact they all need a good kicking. Im confident i could kick this guys ass when he was alone but hed just get mates to hit me next time he saw me.

    I guess the only option is the cops.


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