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Legal or Illegal (sorry im sure this has been posted before)
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06-11-2008 1:38pm#1
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jill_valentine wrote: »Good point. But airsoft pieces aren't "firearms" either...
Cheers for pointing that out.0 -
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sorry yeah i felt a little strange typing 'weapon' in this context of conversation.
wont happen again
Don't apologise, weapon is fine, each to their own. Good luck with your application. And yes the safe will have to be fitted i.e. bolted to a solid brick wall or floor or both, in your home prior to CPO inspection.
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haha always coffee and hobnobs in my house!!!
oh.... my house is wooden frame and i was planning on putting the safe upstairs in the main bedroom wardrobe. wodden floors and wooden walls ... is this ok?
Not sure on that one, best ring your CPO and run it by him/her. I know they want it secure i.e. solid..... Maybe someone here has a similar house with a safe that can advise?0 -
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See, the thing is, airsoft is fairly new to this country, and airsofters are wary of it getting a bad reputation before it's had a chance to even develop. That's why they take great care not to refer to them as "weapons" or "firearms", we'd like as few articles in the Herald as possible. 0
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Thanks Trojan.
I have every intention of trying to stay alive and not injure everyone else while doing this
The Farmer who owns the land is a regular shooter and has invited me to all his shoots to show me the ropes. So really looking forward to it!0 -
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jill_valentine wrote: »See, the thing is, airsoft is fairly new to this country, and airsofters are wary of it getting a bad reputation before it's had a chance to even develop. That's why they take great care not to refer to them as "weapons" or "firearms", we'd like as few articles in the Herald as possible.
I can understand you not wanting to have articles in the papers but what do you expect when your people are advertising your "weapons" like this?
or this
See how it looks to the ill informed?0 -
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You cannot shoot any animal with an airsoft rifle or pistol .
These are toys and are no way related to real guns .
If you want to hunt squirell or rabbit or whatever you would have to buy a real shotgun or rifle from a firearms dealer .
before taking the gun out of the shop you would have to apply to your local garda station for a licence to use a gun .If you were approved to have a licence for a firearm then you can pick it up and start using it wherever you have permission to do so.
I think there is some confusion here. Yes you cannot shoot animals with airsoft as they are not powerful enough. However you do not require a "real" firearm to hunt the animals you mention either. You CAN purchase a high powered AIR rifle - (this is totally different to airsoft). This weapon/rifle does require a licence exactly the same as a firearm. The ammunition it uses does not use gunpowder - it's simply a powerful air rifle. so there is an option there if you don't want to have the responsibility of a full fledged gun - don't own one myself, a lot of my farming relations do, I just don't really want one in me gaff - too scary 
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jim o doom wrote: »I think there is some confusion here. Yes you cannot shoot animals with airsoft as they are not powerful enough. However you do not require a "real" firearm to hunt the animals you mention either. You CAN purchase a high powered AIR rifle - (this is totally different to airsoft). This weapon/rifle does require a licence exactly the same as a firearm. The ammunition it uses does not use gunpowder - it's simply a powerful air rifle. so there is an option there if you don't want to have the responsibility of a full fledged gun - don't own one myself, a lot of my farming relations do, I just don't really want one in me gaff - too scary
I understand what you are saying Jim but In the eyes of the law in Ireland, an air rifle IS a real firearm.0 -
I understand what you are saying Jim but In the eyes of the law in Ireland, an air rifle IS a real firearm.
Yeah - but in terms of danger they really are not the same thing at all - in terms of how lethal they are to larger animals/people, and in terms of lethal distance - a good .22 can be lethal for up to a kilometre.. not many (licence requiring) air rifles would be up to that. And I did state in my post a licence is required. I would consider a regular rifle considerably more dangerous than a hunting air rifle.. I know what the law states - I was just trying to clarify the position - to show that you can hunt with a "less dangerous" item - regardless of what the law thinks 0 -
pullandbang wrote: »
See how it looks to the ill informed?
I do, and I appreciate that, and generally airsofters take care to present a responsible image of the sport but yes, I can see why that looks a bit weird from the outside.
The soldier-y gear is a matter of personal preference to a large extent, (lol @ Alien Vs. Predator guy...) but it does have a practical application - the mask is required to protect your eyes, the camo stops you getting seen, and the boots stop you hurting your ankles when you're fleeing from the opposition like an especially effeminite startled baby deer. I have also recently learned to love the kneepad. Oh, kneepad, how I wish I'd met you sooner.
"Weapon" suggests a piece of equipment specifically designed to injure. Airsoft stuff isn't made to injure anyone or anything except pride. Airsofters are a bit antsy about terminoloy is all, I just wanted b1ackr0se to know why the distinction was pointed out, it wasn't just to mock his newbieness or anything. 0 -
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jim o doom wrote: »Yeah - but in terms of danger they really are not the same thing at all - in terms of how lethal they are to larger animals/people, and in terms of lethal distance - a good .22 can be lethal for up to a kilometre.. not many (licence requiring) air rifles would be up to that. And I did state in my post a licence is required. I would consider a regular rifle considerably more dangerous than a hunting air rifle.. I know what the law states - I was just trying to clarify the position - to show that you can hunt with a "less dangerous" item - regardless of what the law thinks
And I don't disagree with you at all, was just pointing out that if you fcuk around with an air rifle don't expect to get off lighter because its an air rifle.
I have a 30ft/lb PCP and honestly it scares the sh1t out of me how powerful (and accurate) it is for an air rifle
Firearms offences carry pretty hefty mandatory minimums now.0 -
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http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/operational-policing/firearms-handbook.pdf?view=Binary
look at this document on the BASC website and have a copy on the table0 -
cavan shooter wrote: »http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/operational-policing/firearms-handbook.pdf?view=Binary[/url]
look at this document on the BASC website and have a copy on the table
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