Personal abuse?

mayordenis

Is telling someone to "get a clue" in those exact words considered personal abuse?
Also Arguing your case in a "passive-aggresive" manner?

I seem to have recieved a warning based on those 2 aforementioned criteria.

eVeNtInE

This post has been deleted.

Xavi6

I think a lot has to do with context so seeing the posts might help.

brendansmith

Fight the powah!
Even mods are giving out about modding! :D:D

Nevyn

Links please.

mayordenis

pics or it didn't happen

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055405358&page=5

copacetic

seems like you were overly agreesive and ignorant to me, ending that rant with 'get a clue' is not far off 'idiot' imo...

juming straight into feedback seems to indicate you aren't being rational about the whole thing either.

Xavi6

No I don't see it as personal abuse as you said it in the context of the post and not the poster themselves. If you had of said "Get a clue you feckin knob jockey" then that would be the personal abuse.

That's just my opinion though.

Bob the Builder

It's only a verbal warning. No biggie, is it?

sure, ye're having a little bitch fight, but i fail to see how that can be seriously considered as personal abuse?

mayordenis

aye I'm frothing at the mouth, but as a mod myself, when in the board I mod, I don't partake in finger wagging if you break a rule you're banned if you don't break a rule you are not banned. I thank you for your opinion copacetic and if that is the general consensus I will obviously accept that.

mayordenis

Xavi6 wrote: »

No I don't see it as personal abuse as you said it in the context of the post and not the poster themselves. If you had of said "Get a clue you feckin knob jockey" then that would be the personal abuse.

That's just my opinion though.

cheers for the response. :pac:

nevf wrote: »

It's only a verbal warning. No biggie, is it?

sure, ye're having a little bitch fight, but i fail to see how that can be seriously considered as personal abuse?

Aye again you're correct and no it isn't a big deal, and I probably shouldn't bother with this. However I don't believe in taking a warning be it a site ban or the smallest little warning without there being a reason. I also don't believe in mods abusing power in a argument/conversation. Again response appreciated.

copacetic

mayordenis wrote: »

aye I'm frothing at the mouth, but as a mod myself, when in the board I mod, I don't partake in finger wagging if you break a rule you're banned if you don't break a rule you are not banned. I thank you for your opinion copacetic and if that is the general consensus I will obviously accept that.

I'm not saying my opinion will be, just that the pair of you appear 'het up' about something and adding that 'get a clue' was a bit much imo.

Certainly not ban worthy but personally I'd warn someone to cop on if they said it to another poster. If they said it to me i'd ignore it and get them later when they weren't expecting it..

mayordenis

copacetic wrote: »

I'm not saying my opinion will be, just that the pair of you appear 'het up' about something and adding that 'get a clue' was a bit much imo.

Certainly not ban worthy but personally I'd warn someone to cop on if they said it to another poster. If they said it to me i'd ignore it and get them later when they weren't expecting it..

Aye again completely understandable copacetic,
Maybe my opinion of the rules are far too black and white, and that saying something like "get a clue" is a bit of a grey area as it's hard to see it as personal abuse,
and apparently not overly acceptable in an argument either.

brendansmith

*yawn*
World of Warcraft?? Why dont all of you get a clue?
How are you gonna meet a nice girl if you have constantly got your face stuck up the bum of a little man on your computer screen?
Go to bed!

orestes

brendansmith wrote: »

Fight the powah!
Even mods are giving out about modding! :D:D

Obligatory "mods are regular users outside of the forums they mod" response

From reading the first of your posts on that thread it does seem to me you were pretty aggressive, swearing at someone in the first line of your response and then closing your arguement with "get a clue" seems a bit harsh imo

brendansmith

orestes wrote: »

Obligatory "mods are regular users outside of the forums they mod" response

Obligatory "freedom of speech" question?

AlmightyCushion

It did seem a little aggresive. A ban would have been harsh though. A watch it/calm down/careful now style warning wouldn't be out of place for something like that though. Saying that I probably would have just left it unless you were at it a few times in the thread.

mayordenis

brendansmith wrote: »

*yawn*
World of Warcraft?? Why dont all of you get a clue?
How are you gonna meet a nice girl if you have constantly got your face stuck up the bum of a little man on your computer screen?
Go to bed!

lol in work so can't go to bed.
girlfriend is in my bed.

Anyway i'm appreciating the responses guys, when did being aggresive become against the rules though?
I like a healthy debate people getting angry is ok in my books, there's a line and it shouldn't be crossed.

Xavi6

brendansmith wrote: »

Obligatory "freedom of speech" question?

Obligatory "boards.ie is privately owned and offers no freedom of speech" response.

mayordenis

Obligatory "we should all use Obligatory at the start of any response even when it's actually obligatory" joke response

brendansmith

Obligatory "backseat modding - stay on topic" busybody demand!

DirkVoodoo

Personally I dont think you did anything wrong.

I mean come on! The two of you are arguing over WoW, actually worse you are arguing over the launch of the expansion. I hardly consider insulting someone's knowledge of that to fall under "personal abuse".

Can we not have arguments here anymore? Is everyone so sensitive that saying someone doesn't have a clue about how the release of the new warcraft (or whatever, I couldn't follow half of what you guys were on about) they file a personal abuse complaint?

I would hate to see this chap arguing this point in a bar. Granted if you had used really inflammatory remarks and insulted his dog/mother you should get a paddling, but once again, come on!

Anyway, bed time!

brendansmith

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Personally I dont think you did anything wrong.

I mean come on! The two of you are arguing over WoW, actually worse you are arguing over the launch of the expansion. I hardly consider insulting someone's knowledge of that to fall under "personal abuse".

Can we not have arguments here anymore? Is everyone so sensitive that saying someone doesn't have a clue about how the release of the new warcraft (or whatever, I couldn't follow half of what you guys were on about) they file a personal abuse complaint?

I would hate to see this chap arguing this point in a bar. Granted if you had used really inflammatory remarks and insulted his dog/mother you should get a paddling, but once again, come on!

Anyway, bed time!

Adopts nerd voice* - They are talking about the new gremlock power axe add-on for the gorbinstien goblins!!!

Rabies

This 'personal abuse' line gets thrown around and over used at times on Boards.
People need to get a thicker skin and not complain about playground antics.

Xavi6

I appear to be out of thanks so a +1 to the above will have to suffice.

Overheal

mayordenis wrote: »

lol in work so can't go to bed.
girlfriend is in my bed.

Anyway i'm appreciating the responses guys, when did being aggresive become against the rules though?
I like a healthy debate people getting angry is ok in my books, there's a line and it shouldn't be crossed.

So you play WoW and you have a girlfriend sleeping in your bed


.....good lord :pac:

brendansmith

Overheal wrote: »

So you play WoW and you have a girlfriend sleeping in your bed


.....good lord :pac:

Yeah, something dosnt add up!

Hello overheels!

mayordenis

Again you guys have a reading issue,(im not calling your guys illiterate as that would be personal abuse)

I was in work which is why I can't go to bed which is what Man yoo 4 lyfe himself wants,
and he asked how I'm going to meet a girl, well I was just saying it doesn't matter how I meet girls because I'm not allowed talk to new girls anymore. Whipcrack and all that.

but your little digs are wasteful.

Just for clarity
im in WORK not in WOW.

Bed would beat wow and does.

Overheal

Listen, we all know Gold Farming FEELS like work but dont lay your hangups on me, man.

It didnt sound like abuse. But that reading bit - why tempt fate?

brendansmith

mayordenis wrote: »

Again you guys have a reading issue,(im not calling your guys illiterate as that would be personal abuse)

I was in work which is why I can't go to bed which is what Man yoo 4 lyfe himself wants,
and he asked how I'm going to meet a girl, well I was just saying it doesn't matter how I meet girls because I'm not allowed talk to new girls anymore. Whipcrack and all that.

but your little digs are wasteful.

Just for clarity
im in WORK not in WOW.

Bed would beat wow and does.

Get a clue man!:pac:

randylonghorn

mayordenis wrote: »

Again you guys have a reading issue,(im not calling your guys illiterate as that would be personal abuse)

I was in work which is why I can't go to bed which is what Man yoo 4 lyfe himself wants,
and he asked how I'm going to meet a girl, well I was just saying it doesn't matter how I meet girls because I'm not allowed talk to new girls anymore. Whipcrack and all that.

but your little digs are wasteful.

Just for clarity
im in WORK not in WOW.

Bed would beat wow and does.

Rabies wrote: »

This 'personal abuse' line gets thrown around and over used at times on Boards.

People need to get a thicker skin and not complain about playground antics.

>_>

Oh, a butterfly!!

/wanders off

Nick_oliveri

Overheal wrote: »

Listen, we all know Gold Farming FEELS like work but dont lay your hangups on me, man.

Try mining Mithril on low lvl in Tanaris for four hours. Fun times. Didnt even need it.

Obligitory WoW picture.

Overheal

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

Try mining Mithril on low lvl in Tanaris for four hours. Fun times. Didnt even need it.
.

I never have, and never will play WoW, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

Nick_oliveri

Ah its good, been back to it a few times, although it bugs me that they are making billions off it. When you said gold farming i assumed you knew what I would say.

And it was a shiot 1500th post.

mayordenis

brendansmith wrote: »

Get a clue man!:pac:

REPORTED!

randylonghorn wrote: »

>_>

Oh, a butterfly!!

/wanders off

I do honestly feel burned, I left myself rather open. But I was just telling them as they were trying to tarnish by street cred.

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

And it was a shiot 1500th post.

1500 Isn't really a milestone number, nothing compared to 1000

Nick_oliveri

mayordenis wrote: »

1500 Isn't really a milestone number, nothing compared to 1000

Well we'll see what Feedback thinks of that!!! :pac:

Ah no, "get a clue" is not personal abuse. Thats a bit of a bummer of a Boards experience, but brush it off and move on. Im sure Ivan isnt a bad lad.
Watch some porn if ya cant sleep. Enjoy work.

WellyJ

I don't really see how people can look at it as NOT being personal abuse?

There was no need to place it at the end of the post at all,

If you felt that you were in the right and Ivan was "clueless", why not let your post show that you are right?

You didn't need "get a clue" in there, it is personal abuse, albeit mild.

Nerin

You all need to get a clue. Lol.




Edit-the more you know.

6th

mayordenis wrote: »

Is telling someone to "get a clue" in those exact words considered personal abuse?
Also Arguing your case in a "passive-aggresive" manner?

I seem to have recieved a warning based on those 2 aforementioned criteria.

Okay, here's how it is.

Mods use the term "Personal Abuse" sometimes when the phrase really doesnt fit ... but its the best option they have. Really what they want to say is "Stop being a dick". Now while that would be personal abuse its usually spot on.

So mayordenis while you didnt personally abuse anyone you were "being a dick" - and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Ok thats that cleared up.

Nerin

6th wrote: »

Okay, here's how it is.

Mods use the term "Personal Abuse" sometimes when the phrase really doesnt fit ... but its the best option they have. Really what they want to say is "Stop being a dick". Now while that would be personal abuse its usually spot on.

So mayordenis while you didnt personally abuse anyone you were "being a dick" - and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Ok thats that cleared up.

Reads history of thread,ohhh now i see. Yes,what 6th said. Workin overtime for more c and h yeah? mods have predefined boxes to tick for infractions,being naughty could also be used,but that'd be argued as wrong too. Its hard to fit everything into one thing.

6th

But mayordenis didnt get an infraction, he just got a warning on thread.

Nerin

6th wrote: »

But mayordenis didnt get an infraction, he just got a warning on thread.

Headdesk. Warning infraction? I'm so confused. Give me a neck rub.

Sherifu

Wow is for fags. I'm looking at you Manties...

AlmightyCushion

Sherifu wrote: »

Wow is for fags. I'm looking at you Manties...

Be quiet. Grown ups are talking.

Sherifu

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Be quiet. Grown ups are talking.

Ivan

For what it's worth, he came into a thread he hadnt posted in and took a comment and made it about something else. He already stated he was incorrect in that respect.

He then proceeded to be overly agressive and condescending in a way that was totally unnecessary for what he wanted to say.

If it werent directed at me, I probably would have given an infraction, since it was directed at me I tried not to take it to heart and debated the merit of his post. And then politely asked him to stop being so aggressive.

When he accused me of throwing my proverbial modding weight around I asked him to take it to feedback.

Perhaps I could have chosen my words more carefully, I regret now not doing so, but as 6th so kindly pointed out... well, I would never be quite so blunt especially when adding my own input to the thread in the same post.

I apologise for not being more clear in my warning but I stand behind the meaning of the message.

VH

Carlow IT vs Waterford IT. Hmmm. There was always friction between these two, usually because Waterford IT is much bigger and more superior.

Time Magazine

VH wrote: »

...usually because Waterford IT is much bigger and more superior.

At grammars.

Orion

ah yes - I stopped reading that thread because it had degenerated in to a "my e-dick is bigger that your e-dick". And you were a part of that. It's only an infraction - suck it up big boy.

6th

VH wrote: »

Carlow IT vs Waterford IT. Hmmm. There was always friction between these two, usually because Waterford IT is much bigger and more superior.

I agree Waterford is by far the bestest village in Wexford.

Nerin

6th wrote: »

I agree Waterford is by far the bestest village in Wexford.

I'm logging onto full boards just to thank that post