" Emo" Music question

manofthemoment

I don't know if I've used the wrong word here or am offending anyone by calling something a scene here cos it's not my scene... but do any emo clubs or bars exist in Dublin where emo people congregate to listen to emo music? I don't mean specifically big-ish concerts or anything I just mean in a more week to week way.

Cheers for any help as Im intrigued...

Fanny Cradock

I would be surprised if there were any clubs or bars that specifically catered to them. I always got the impression that emos were mostly in their early to mid-teens.

Anyway, if you are in Dublin, I guess the places like Bruxelles, The Foggy Dew, or that place in Temple Bar that sells the pizzas (can never remember it's name) would be your best shots.

Amorphous Head

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

that place in Temple Bar that sells the pizzas

Eamon Dorans

MikeHoncho

Looks like someone has the hots for Emo girls.


They have a word for that. Think its Pedo:D

Xavi6

Try outside the Central Bank

HouseHippo

If anyone knows please tell me too, i'd like to go and show them some real music

manofthemoment

Nah... it's not that, im just curious to know if people get together as a group and listen to depressing music and feel depressed and don't dance. Im wondering if it can be a communal activity.

Fanny Cradock

http://ear-4-music.com/2008/10/23/tv-on-the-radio/

Amorphous Head

manofthemoment wrote: »

Nah... it's not that, im just curious to know if people get together as a group and listen to depressing music and feel depressed and don't dance. Im wondering if it can be a communal activity.

They did, it was called Joy Division

ShawnRaven

Amorphous Head wrote: »

They did, it was called The Cure

Fixed your post there buddy.

ShawnRaven

manofthemoment wrote: »

but do any emo clubs or bars exist in Dublin where emo people congregate to listen to emo music?

Fibbers, it's turned into the biggest emo bar in Dublin over the last few years!
They're even at the right emo age too! Over 16? you don't get in!

xOxSinéadxOx

emos are all underage cos they grow out of it

Nichololas

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

emos are all underage cos they grow out of it

True. The time comes when you've got better things to spend your pocketmoney on than mascara.

mada999

what is emo music?? what bands play this music??

xbox36016

fall out boy panic at the disco and evary orther music on my ipod ilike emo music but i am not emo

doonothing

Aren't most emo kids "straight edge"? As in no drink, no drugs, no smoking, no pre-marital sex?

Why in gods name would a pub have a night encouraging that?

insinkerator

depends on your classification of emo. Here in cork the people who i call emo are all hanging around paul street/peace park. Most of them smoke, mainly because i think they enjoy the fact that they are slowly killing themselves lol

Seriously though i wouldnt consider 'emo' people to have a higher ratio of 'straight edge' people than any other group of people

doonothing

Really? I mean, I've seen emo kids smoking too, but I'd put that down to teens in general trying smoking, but I've never met anyone (teenage or adult) who identified as straight edge but not emo.

xbox36016

doonothing wrote: »

Aren't most emo kids "straight edge"? As in no drink, no drugs, no smoking, no pre-marital sex?

Why in gods name would a pub have a night encouraging that?

i am turning emo i drink going to have pre marital sex so emos are not straight edge

Creamy Goodness

xbox36016 wrote: »

fall out boy panic at the disco and evary orther music on my ipod ilike emo music but i am not emo

they are not emo bands tbh

xbox36016

thay are so what do you think a emo band is

callaway92

xbox36016 wrote: »

i am turning emo i drink going to have pre marital sex so emos are not straight edge

you drink??..Stop lying

doonothing

xbox36016 wrote: »

i am turning emo i drink going to have pre marital sex so emos are not straight edge

Wait, because you drink and are going to have pre-marital sex, emos aren't straight edge? Just because you aren't? Ok... I stand corrected

OpenYourEyes

xbox36016 wrote: »

thay are so what do you think a emo band is

My Chemical Romance
Mindless Self Indulgence
Aiden
Hawthorne Heights




-most ppl probably have probably only heard of MCR. Try typing the others into myspace if you are that curious, but dont say i didnt warn you!!

xbox36016

i no thay are emobands whats that band whit the hot one in

OpenYourEyes

xbox36016 wrote: »

i no thay are emobands whats that band whit the hot one in

........i get the feeling you already know the answer to that question ............

Creamy Goodness

xbox36016 wrote: »

thay are so what do you think a emo band is

Rites of spring
Fugazi
Sunny day real estate.

that's just for starters

xbox36016

yap its parmore

doonothing

I never really understood people calling Fugazi emo... I guess I just don't really know what emo is, Fugazi always just sorta sounded alt-indie to me. That said, I've only heard like 2 or 3 songs by them.
What's emo? I would Fall out boy are really just pop with guitars, I don't really know how I'd classify Panic at the Disco, Aiden etc would just be hardcore in my eyes, I just don't see the link between any of them to Fugazi! Willing to be educated though, just wondering.

xbox36016

30 sec to maris

OpenYourEyes

As with all of lifes great questions , the answer lies on wikipedia:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo


basically says theres been three "waves" of emo, one gradually changing before dying out and leading to the other!

Jimmy Eat World seem to be the main carriers of the third wave of emo that we are currently in, having started off with a more rough alternative sound and generally gone more mainstream/pop-rock.

Basically people kept refferring to them as emo even with their more mainstream sound, then other bands with a similar sound were called emo, then bands with anything midly similar were called emo, then any other music that was hard to define, and was listened to by fans of this "emo" music, was called emo



And now after gradual, but extensive deviation to the first 2 waves of emo ( fugazi, rites of spring) here we are!

What i think what sums up all the confusion and disputes about what emo is now compared to its origin is this the simple quote "Today emo is more commonly tied to fashion than to music"

insinkerator

doonothing wrote: »

Really? I mean, I've seen emo kids smoking too, but I'd put that down to teens in general trying smoking, but I've never met anyone (teenage or adult) who identified as straight edge but not emo.

i dunno tbh, i find that a higher proportion of "emo" kids smoke that any othr group of young people

[QUOTE=donothingI never really understood people calling Fugazi emo... I guess I just don't really know what emo is, Fugazi always just sorta sounded alt-indie to me. That said, I've only heard like 2 or 3 songs by them.

they wouldnt be classisfied as emo nowadays, they influenced the emo that we hear today, which is a mixture of the influences from 90's emo, along with the commercialisation and accesibility of mainstream music

OpenYour Eyes wrote:

"Today emo is more commonly tied to fashion than to music"

I wholeheartedly agree with that statement

doonothing

OpenYourEyes wrote: »

As with all of lifes great questions , the answer lies on wikipedia:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo


basically says theres been three "waves" of emo, one gradually changing before dying out and leading to the other!

Jimmy Eat World seem to be the main carriers of the third wave of emo that we are currently in, having started off with a more rough alternative sound and generally gone more mainstream/pop-rock.
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Huh, ok.. I woulda thought JEW (ha, what an abbreviation!) were just bog standard pop punk, I'll have to give that wiki article a persuin' indeed.

Today emo is more commonly tied to fashion than to music

That really sums it up for me!

insinkerator wrote: »

i dunno tbh, i find that a higher proportion of "emo" kids smoke that any othr group of young people

Really? Moreso than the mini scumbags or stoners or any of them? Not in Dublin anyway!

ANarcho-Munk

All emo's are straight edge. Bit of a sweeping generalisation, non?

doonothing

Yeah, but no one said that...

xbox36016

i am emo and not straight edge so thare

doonothing

Look, you keep saying that, but that doesn't prove anything.

xbox36016

yes

OpenYourEyes

xbox36016 wrote: »

yes

Its ok everyone, im sure he just clicked "submit reply" by accident, before completing his sentence!

He'l be back any minute now after reaslising his mistake, and complete his sentence, the end of which will bring great relevance and logic to his argument:D

xbox36016

ok than i am emo not straight edge what me do i have to put up this point

RandomAccess

Xavi6 wrote: »

Try outside the Central Bank

Was there a turf war or did all the Goths just change to Emo overnight?

xbox36016

ya emos are the new goths

OpenYourEyes

RandomAccess wrote: »

Was there a turf war or did all the Goths just change to Emo overnight?

they changed overnight!:D

Emos are now what goths and korn-dudes were over the last ten or so years!

Not so much evolving, as able to get their parents to buy them more clothes and make-up!

neckedit

Sorry bout this but my understanding of EMO was that it was all about emotional rock? fall out boy, panic at the disco, 3o seconds from mars....etc, where the hell do Fugazi fit in to this? I've had the extreme pleasure of seeing them live on 3 occassions, and if memory serves they came from the Post HardCore scene, McKay formaly of Minor Threat, Canty formaly Rites of Spring. with band members doing seperate projects with the likes of Jourgenson and Connolly from Ministry. under the guise of PaleHead. And collaberations with the likes of Sonic Youth! if you want to check em out start at the very begining with the first album REPEATER! pure Class!! Sorry bout that....:p


Sorry for bad spelling too:rolleyes:

sparkzter

Theres a good dukebox in "The Hairy Lemon" that has lots of My Chemical Romance, PANIC, Fall Out Boy etc and I see a fairly "rock-emo" crowd drinking there too!

insinkerator

neckedit wrote: »

Sorry bout this but my understanding of EMO was that it was all about emotional rock? fall out boy, panic at the disco, 3o seconds from mars....etc, where the hell do Fugazi fit in to this? I've had the extreme pleasure of seeing them live on 3 occassions, and if memory serves they came from the Post HardCore scene, McKay formaly of Minor Threat, Canty formaly Rites of Spring. with band members doing seperate projects with the likes of Jourgenson and Connolly from Ministry. under the guise of PaleHead. And collaberations with the likes of Sonic Youth! if you want to check em out start at the very begining with the first album REPEATER! pure Class!! Sorry bout that....:p


Sorry for bad spelling too:rolleyes:

But didnt emo emerge from the hardcore punk scene. Therefore post hardcore = emo?

neckedit

But didnt emo emerge from the hardcore punk scene. Therefore post hardcore = emo?

I fail to the progression! Maybe i feel asleep in the mid 90's, woke up in the early 00's and missed it all:p

phasers

You'll find loads of emos in the Hideout, a pool hall down near Stephen's Green shopping centre. It's not a bar, but it has a jukebox that plays My Chemical Romance

JaneyMc

Xbox,
First of all, learn to spell.

Bands like MCR and Panic, Paramore and 30 seconds to Mars are not emo.

MCR might have been when they first started out but they are more pop now if anything.

Panic were never emo.

Paramore - Pop Rock

30 seconds to Mars, not emo either. Just because the singer wears eyeliner does not mean they are emo. Billy Joe Armstrong wears eyeliner so did your man from the Kaiser Chiefs and they are not emo either.

Emo has more become about the fashion and not about the music. I'm pretty sure you don't listen to anything even remotley emo and are just into it for the "scene". I'm pretty sure you are looking for the alt kid tweenie look. Your mates can be found at central bank, go play with them and stop pestering the forum with your immaturity.

Now as for emo music clubs, there are none that I know of, Fibbers, The Hub, Wax, The Button Factory. They would be as close as you get I'm afraid. Pm me if you want details fo the different club nights.

xbox36016

JaneyMc wrote: »

Xbox,
First of all, learn to spell.

Bands like MCR and Panic, Paramore and 30 seconds to Mars are

not emo.

MCR might have been when they first started out but they are more pop now if anything.

Panic were never emo.

Paramore - Pop Rock

30 seconds to Mars, not emo either. Just because the singer wears eyeliner does not mean they are emo. Billy Joe Armstrong wears eyeliner so did your man from the Kaiser Chiefs and they are not emo either.

Emo has more become about the fashion and not about the music. I'm pretty sure you don't listen to anything even remotley emo and are just into it for the "scene". I'm pretty sure you are looking for the alt kid tweenie look. Your mates can be found at central bank, go play with them and stop pestering the forum with your immaturity.

Now as for emo music clubs, there are none that I know of, Fibbers, The Hub, Wax, The Button Factory. They would be as close as you get I'm afraid. Pm me if you want details fo the different club nights.

Bands like MCR and Panic, Paramore and 30 seconds to Mars are are emo

and as wall stopputing down emos the griels are sexy

JaneyMc

xbox36016 wrote: »

Bands like MCR and Panic, Paramore and 30 seconds to Mars are are emo

and as wall stopputing down emos the griels are sexy

Not once did I put down emo's, I have an emo sibling and I have absolutley no problems with them at all.



No they aren't. As someone said above the real emo bands stem from post hardcore influences, and the bands you have listed certaintly do not.



As for emo "griels" being sexy you are just backing up my point that to you emo is a look not a music genre.