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Suggestions please for outfit for mass!

  • 04-11-2008 4:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭


    I am going to an anniversary mass at Christmas. I need a coat or jacket and an outfit built around the coat/jacket. I was thinking maybe a short-ish leather jacket and tailored trousers. I would like the outfit to look trendy but expensive...without it costing the earth. I am tall, blond highlights and a size 12. Any suggestions please? I like the look of All saints leather jackets but unfortunately cant afford them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭marti101


    Ive heard it all now you are going to mass not a fashion show


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    I'd say a short skirt, short as possible. And show some cleavage. It is Christmas so maybe a nice fur trim around the boob line of the top. Accessorize with some holly leaves and berries as part of a nice up do in your hair. Or maybe you could just think about what mass is really about and stay at home instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    I am aware of the potential hyprocracy of my request, hence the exclamation mark. To the two posters who replied: I can see you are trying to be smart and I hope for your sake that you are now satisfied that you have made your point. I do take your point but I would like to say that in my opinion one can both appreciate the meaning of an anniversary mass AND want to look good without one in anyway diminishing the other. However as this IS the fashion and appearance forum I did think I might receive replies actually relevant to my query. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    While I was joking my advice still stands. Whats wrong with looking hot at the church?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Glowing


    Wantobe wrote: »
    I am aware of the potential hyprocracy of my request, hence the exclamation mark. To the two posters who replied: I can see you are trying to be smart and I hope for your sake that you are now satisfied that you have made your point. I do take your point but I would like to say that in my opinion one can both appreciate the meaning of an anniversary mass AND want to look good without one in anyway diminishing the other. However as this IS the fashion and appearance forum I did think I might receive replies actually relevant to my query. :rolleyes:

    Oh my god, I've heard it all now.

    The only reason I can come up with is that you fancy the priest. No other possible reason for you wanting to get a new outfit for MASS!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    Mass wouldn't be that judgemental but i would think a leather jacket would raise eyebrows from the more conservative people there.

    I imagine if its an anniversary thing you want to look well for family? Whats wrong with a nice sun dress and a cardi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    in all honesty, it's mass. Catholic churches in my experiences are freezing so i would just buy a warm coat never mind trying to beat the fashion stakes..there are nice coats in next, but try Littlewoods too..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Whats wrong with a leather jacket at mass? That's crazy. Shove it in the conseratives faces if they think you can't come to mass. Bleedin hippycrits


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Really, people wear whatever they like to Mass. For special anniversary/funeral masses they'll usually wear smart clothes to show respect for whoever the mass is celebrating or mourning. It's not necessary to plan an outfit to this degree unless you're trying to outdo someone or show off, and if that is the case then you're making a mockery of the event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Glowing wrote: »
    Oh my god, I've heard it all now.

    The only reason I can come up with is that you fancy the priest. No other possible reason for you wanting to get a new outfit for MASS!

    I'm surprised that people are so shocked at this question.

    I don't expect that the OP wants to dress up for the actual mass or for the priest, it's most likely to be to impress the relatives or friends who will also be attending.

    I personally would wear a knee length coat in a bright colour with opaque tights and boots.

    Lots of women dress up for mass around Christmas, it can be a bit of a fashion parade but I don't think the clothes get bought just for mass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Buy some reduced price school uniform from Marks & Spencers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭marti101


    Theres no harm in looking well gointg to Mass but you should have an inkling of what is acceptable.Asking on an internet forum op you knew you were going to get different opinions.We are not making a laugh of you but you are going to Mass for a solumn [sp]not a fashion show.We dont need to know what you look like you are talking as if you are going to a party not a church


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hi Op
    Am sure you will be wearing this outfit to other occasions /events also.......

    Firstly If I were you I wouldnt remain so conceded about leather jacket and trousers. However If thats what you Really really must have try Next - catalogue on line or topshop have a funky range.

    The perfect leather jacket may take years to find and ought to be prepared to pay for it.

    I think something as poster stated above coat and tights would be nice.

    Why not ditch the leather jacket idea and go for something like a pretty dress coloured skinny polo and opaque tights. These will all be transferable to other out fits in winter.

    A classy pair of boots (Im thinking strech ped a tere) ankle boots or simple pretty shoes will set it off. This with a nice striking coat Zara Next or Topshop perhaps a colour or simply black would look great.

    Lots of options really but I d say ditch having a spicific idea as its more difficult to find things when actively seeking. Esp as good leather jacket is an investment and takes a lot of hunting for - mines from Ted Baker last year and was worth the wait. :D
    Plus they go down in sales which is painful.

    Anyhoo dont know if that was any help but just my 2c Enjoy the er..occasions!
    :);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭Pythia


    Wantobe wrote: »
    I am going to an anniversary mass at Christmas. I need a coat or jacket and an outfit built around the coat/jacket. I was thinking maybe a short-ish leather jacket and tailored trousers. I would like the outfit to look trendy but expensive...without it costing the earth. I am tall, blond highlights and a size 12. Any suggestions please? I like the look of All saints leather jackets but unfortunately cant afford them.

    I'm not Catholic and have hardly ever been in a church so maybe there's something I'm not getting, but I think it's perfectly fine to want to dress nicely for this. It's probably a family occassion and just as you'd wear something nice for a wedding or christening, you would wear to a mass too, just with a more solemn tone.

    Like someone else was saying, boots would look nice. Oasis have some nice jumper dresses in stock which would look nice with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭europerson


    Clothes for church are easy to do: just look respectable.

    No to cleavage, short skirts, garish patterns, sportswear, excessive jewellery, too much skin on show.

    To be honest, I wouldn't recommend a leather jacket for most church gatherings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Again I can't see what's wrong with a leather jacket in a church. You are paying respect to god and nobody else. You sound like need to take a long look at your faith europerson


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Last time I was in church, I listened to my iPod. Serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 707 ✭✭✭deevey


    Depends if your trying to pull ? ... priest, sacristan, or alter-boy ? :P

    If not .. christmas jumper, matching socks/scarf/glove set that everyone inevitably gets from their granny's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    deevey wrote: »
    Depends if your trying to pull ? ... priest, sacristan, or alter-boy ? :P

    If not .. christmas jumper, matching socks/scarf/glove set that everyone inevitably gets from their granny's


    LOL.

    Maybe it sounds a bit silly to be planning an outfit for mass but ( as usual) there are reasons! Last year I didn't go ( was at inlaws for christmas) and my dad told me afterwards that he was annoyed that my sister-in-law didn't make more of an effort to dress up. It's our mother's anniversary ( she was born on christmas day) so the outfit will also be for the day IYKWIM. I have two pre-schoolers so getting time to myself to go to the shops is not easy. I will have to take a day off work specially so wanted to do a targeted search. Although I know that sometimes going with a specific idea in mind is the worst thing to do cause then you def won't find anything. And it has to be something warm cause that church is freezing and then I plan to go to her grave afterwards to put roses ( her fav) on her grave. My mother was very into her clothes and fashion herself so I think if she was looking down she'd be laughing at me now!

    I'm really surprised that there are people who think a leather jacket is inappropriate for mass- I would never have thought that.

    A jumper dress is a great idea, but then I'd need to buy a coat as well ( what with having two children in the last 4 years I've kind of let my wardrobe slide) and new boots or shoes so that would be a big ask. I've got a few tailored trousers for work so was kind of hoping to dress one of them up with a nice leather jacket. I had a lovely leather jacket too that I bought abroad about 7 years ago and destroyed it a few months ago walking through a freshly painted door with toddler up in my arms- got paint all over one arm and it won't come off!

    Thanks for all the replies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Wantobe wrote: »

    and my dad told me afterwards that he was annoyed that my sister-in-law didn't make more of an effort to dress up. I'm really surprised that there are people who think a leather jacket is inappropriate for mass- I would never have thought that.

    A jumper dress is a great idea, but then I'd need to buy a coat as well ( what with having two children in the last 4 years I've kind of let my wardrobe slide) and new boots or shoes so that would be a big ask.
    Thanks for all the replies.

    :mad:at your Dad. What was the girl wearing that he didn't like?

    A good leather jacket would probably cost around €300.

    A nice winter coat about €100 maybe a bit more.

    Boots around €150, although I got a pair in TK Maxx for €70 recently. If you spend a lot on the boots you can get them re-heeled next winter.

    Then I'd get something cheap to put under the coat from Dunnes or Penneys. I think the coats and boots are the building blocks for winter outfits.

    A lot of those nice coats aren't very warm, you could wear a thermal vest under the outfit;)and maybe some Spanx if needed.

    Looking good doesn't come cheap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    sunnyside wrote: »
    :mad:at your Dad. What was the girl wearing that he didn't like?



    I'm told that sis-in-law turned up without hair brushed wearing dirty wax jacket. Which if you knew her is fairly likely since she generally is late for everything except her horses! :p She's a great person and doesn't think too much about her appearance ( I could learn a thing or two from her!). But my dad is in his 80s and for him you have to wear your 'good' clothes to mass, anything else is not on. I just want to look respectable but I have a lot of family who will be at the mass and who won't have seen me for a few years ( I don't live nearby) and they are usually dressed in gorgeous clothes. So I'd just like to plan in advance, have an outfit for the day ( not feel like just mommy for a change), and then not worry last minute about what to wear, so that I can actually relax and enjoy christmas day IYKWIM.

    Having been out of the shops for the last few years I'm worried I'm going to be completely flummoxed when I shop for an outfit but I think the advice I'm getting is to not be too blinkered about the leather idea so I will bear that in mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Wantobe wrote: »
    I have a lot of family who will be at the mass and who won't have seen me for a few years ( I don't live nearby) and they are usually dressed in gorgeous clothes.

    Nightmare, that situation usually means everyone's dressed to impress.

    Maybe you should book an appointment with a personal shopper somewhere like Debenhams and get some help choosing new clothes. It's free, do a search on here for more info.

    Before someone attacks me for suggesting the personal shopper I don't mean it specifically to get an outfit for mass. It's obvious the OP is having confidence issues about clothes and what to wear so a bit of help would improve her confidence in general and have her looking good everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hi wantobe-

    Right! firstly you Need to treat yourself and start looking good (even if its just once a year :)) for so oo many reasons but all to do with that you are a woman not just a mother. I dont have kids but have seen this happen with my mates and frankly its a slow confidence killer.

    In principle I see nothing wring with wearing a leather jacket to mass. And if you really must have one This looks rather like a nice shape and versitile stlye. Please buy at least one other thing for yourself (bet you spend a near fortune on kiddies!?)
    So if you really must have a leather jacket what about this one


    http://www.next.co.uk/shopping/women/workwear/2/1

    Ware it with a chunky scarf and maybe a nice hat!?


    I would love to see you look really stunning and this is a great dress the shape of it covers all problem areas and for the mass I would put a light wool red polo neck underneath another colour if red is not your shade -penneys are great for these.. A pair of thick black tights (and relax if you havent had them legs on show for years)are VERY flattering. Hopefully you can root out a pair of shoes save on expense. A nice bag. Please be forewarned these prices are in pounds..

    Dress
    http://www.next.co.uk/shopping/women/signature/1/10

    Worn with this coat it would look classy understated stylish and expensive.
    Also these are both items that will see the test of time.

    Coat
    http://www.next.co.uk/shopping/women/signature/3/4

    Also these would suit your lifestyle

    I think a pair of boots are a worthy investment - you can dress around them. Great thing about next is you order them on line and will be delivered to your home or nearest store. Gosh you sware I was working for the feckers!

    Boots
    http://www.next.co.uk/shopping/women/shoes/7/8

    I am sincerley sorry about your Mother. Cant have been easy and esp at christmas. Perhaps it will learn those who post judgemental comments to realise there are always branching circumstances.
    Hope might have giving you some direction in this my longest ever post
    :)
    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    The first christmas that myself and the girlfriend had together she was going to wear a long leather skirt to mass! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Some of the threads you see in here make you think people need a home-help instead of fashion advice.

    How do you cope with dressing yourself the other 364 days of the year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    stovelid wrote: »
    Some of the threads you see in here make you think people need a home-help instead of fashion advice.

    How do you cope with dressing yourself the other 364 days of the year?

    Some people are very insecure about how they look. While nobody should feel like that lots of people do, it's normal.

    Needing home-help:confused: Keeping up with fashion and shopping for clothes is very time consuming and expensive. For women like me it's a hobby, I enjoy looking around the shops and trying different things on. The OP said she has had 2 children in the last 4 years. Clothes shopping hasn't been a priority for her in recent times. If I had 2 toddlers in tow I wouldn't be brave enough to go to Tesco never mind clothes shopping.

    She doesn't feel good about her appearance and if she turns up at this anniversary mass looking a mess compared to her female relatives she'll feel even worse.

    That's why she has asked us for help. Stop being so judgemental.

    On Off The Rails last week Brendan Courtney said that dis-satisfaction with how you look is one of the easiest problems to fix so don't worry OP:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    sunnyside wrote: »
    ....

    I just think it would be better sometimes if we encouraged people to learn a few basic rules about colours and appropriate dressing, and more importantly to wear what they like and feel good in, rather than perpetuate the idea that they are falling behind the fashion and need insider information to keep up.

    I was a bit sarcastic and harsh though. No offence meant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    Wow, pseudonym1, thanks so much for your post. I love, love the next leather jacket. Actually I love all three ideas...can't wait to get to Next to try them on!

    Sunnyside- thanks for the idea of the personal shopper- that is a really good idea and I'm def going to think about it.



    The home help is also a good idea :rolleyes: and I don't really know how I manage to get dressed the rest of the year...:p Let's just say I'm working on it!

    Thanks so much to all who replied, I'm almost looking forward to shopping now.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭She Devil


    If it were me i would get fab shoes with colour on them, high heels with say (just a suggestion colour) pink stilleto heels, wear one of your tailored trousers, this gives your bottom half a slimming look and makes you taller,

    buy a (pink) scarf, (try h&m, pennys, vero moda or sasha for cheap scarves and remember a scarf will dress up ANY outfit) so thats only about 50€ as sasha do great shoes and never go over about 40€, then you could wear a white crisp shirt (will get great wear out of that with diff scarfs)

    and i'd finish it off with a 3/4 length black woolen jacket) http://www.nextdirectory.ie/page.asp?b=G44&p=72&o=1 Such as the one on the very left hand side of this next page!

    Or alternatively get the black dress on this page and let the accessories worry about themselves its a gorg dress and so cheap!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    She-Devil- Now I've fallen in love with that black dress too! Thanks for that. I'm definitely going with the high-heeled shoes. Don't think I can pull off a knit jacket though, I love them but I'm broad shouldered and don't have much of a waist ( straight up and down) so unfortunately they make me look like a rugby player. I wonder if that black dress is to the knee- I wouldn't go for anything above the knee as I would be too self-conscious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭fonpokno


    Also just so you know, there was a thread posted somewhere a few weeks ago about getting paint off a leather jacket and apparently nail polish remover will take it off without damaging the leather. So there might be some hope for your leather jacket!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    fonpokno wrote: »
    Also just so you know, there was a thread posted somewhere a few weeks ago about getting paint off a leather jacket and apparently nail polish remover will take it off without damaging the leather. So there might be some hope for your leather jacket!

    Thanks fonpokno, but sadly I've tried that plus meth spirits and no shifting it. I still have the jacket but...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭She Devil


    Wantobe wrote: »
    She-Devil- Now I've fallen in love with that black dress too! Thanks for that. I'm definitely going with the high-heeled shoes. Don't think I can pull off a knit jacket though, I love them but I'm broad shouldered and don't have much of a waist ( straight up and down) so unfortunately they make me look like a rugby player. I wonder if that black dress is to the knee- I wouldn't go for anything above the knee as I would be too self-conscious.

    If you dont have much of a waist then get those new skirts that everyone has, You know the ones that stop under your chest ... Id love to wear them but im too small :(


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