Uh Oh.

Overheal

http://gizmodo.com/5075468/france-to-slap-convicted-pirates-with-year+long-internet-ban

France's Senate just passed a law proposed in mid-summer that would cut the families of illegal fileswappers off from broadband internet access for a year. This makes France the first country to pop anti-piracy legislation against users, and it's probably not going to be the last. This would be a "three-strike" system. You get two warnings before your ISP is legally empowered to cut you off. The first warning arrives by email; the second is snailmail, perhaps just in case the first got caught in your spam filter.
Just months before, the powerless rubber-stampy European Parliament called a denial of net access a violation of "civil liberties and human rights." Apparently President Sarkozy, his totally hot recording-artist wife and a lot of other people disagree.
Though the bill still has to get past France's lower legislative house before it can go into effect, it's looking good: The Senate passed it with near unanimity. Oddly enough, the Communists abstained and one hard right-winger opposed it, due to the fact a ruling could seriously complicate a bundled net-phone-TV package. (10 bucks says his kid's all over them torrents.)

Is there nothing they won't surrender to?

CHD

Ribbit

4zn76tysfajdxp

My brother lives in Paris, he's a programmer and doesn't watch own a television. Therefore he downloads A LOT of pirated films and tv shows, spending up to 15 hours a day on the internet. The prospect of him getting banned from the internet makes me lol.

Overheal

He'll just have to have a Download-Day before it becomes law

I ca just see it now, Riots in the streets by thousands deproved of their fix of dodgy downloads of sugababes.

Tar.Aldarion

Lol, people will have their net hacked AND get banned from the internet because the cracker is dling, lollllllooooooolllll etc

SoupyNorman

Wi Fi

Gone Drinking

Paisleigh Yellow Rhinoceros wrote: »

spending up to 15 hours a day on the internet. The prospect of him getting banned from the internet makes me lol.

The fact that your virgin brother spends 15 hours a day on the intenet makes me lol.

zach morris

Gone Drinking, legendary boards user alert

fag

MagicMarker

How exactly are they planning on enforcing this?

I can't see how it can be done.

Turd Ferguson

Gone Drinking wrote: »

The fact that your virgin brother spends 15 hours a day on the intenet makes me lol.

zach morris wrote: »

Gone Drinking, legendary boards user alert

fag

lol

thelordofcheese

Overheal wrote: »

http://gizmodo.com/5075468/france-to-slap-convicted-pirates-with-year+long-internet-ban

Is there nothing they won't surrender to?

This is fantastic news.
France, i salute thee.

Ciaran500

MagicMarker wrote: »

How exactly are they planning on enforcing this?

I can't see how it can be done.

Couldn't be that hard. Warned 3 times, ISP disconnects you and puts your name onto a blacklist, no ISP will reconnect you for a year.

Ciaran500

The internet cafe's will be back in business soon!

*edit*


How do they know what you're downloading?


I can understand they might know that you are downloading something, but how do they know if its illegal or not?

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Couldn't be that hard. Warned 3 times, ISP disconnects you and puts your name onto a blacklist, no ISP will reconnect you for a year.

Wouldn't that lead to ISP's losing (possibly) millions of customers?

Turd Ferguson

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Couldn't be that hard. Warned 3 times, ISP disconnects you and puts your name onto a blacklist, no ISP will reconnect you for a year.

What about hotspots and other open networks like colleges and stuff?

thelordofcheese

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

What about hotspots and other open networks like colleges and stuff?

Time to start locking that shit down then. Besides most of the uni's are blocking P2P traffic for a damn good reason.

MagicMarker

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

What about hotspots and other open networks like colleges and stuff?

Or even just using a different name and not pay by direct debit.

Unless you need proof of identify to get broadband in France.

Doesn't the likes of Paris have wi-fi throughout?

AlmightyCushion

Overheal wrote: »

Is there nothing they won't surrender to?

Could be worse, could be obese idiots like America.

illdoit2morrow

Deleted User wrote: »

Wouldn't that lead to ISP's losing (possibly) millions of customers?

Thats what i would have thought, maybe you still have to pay after been cut off though, undersome small print, that would be nasty...

Sherifu

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Could be worse, could be obese idiots like America.

ZING!

illdoit2morrow

illdoit2morrow wrote: »

Thats what i would have thought, maybe you still have to pay after been cut off though, undersome small print, that would be nasty...

I dont think they can do that. If they can't provide you with their service, they can't charge you.

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

The internet cafe's will be back in business soon!

*edit*


How do they know what you're downloading?


I can understand they might know that you are downloading something, but how do they know if its illegal or not?

It would be easy enough. Microsoft do allot of the digital media rights for the legal websites from what I can see, so if it's not wmp it's suspicious.

Ciaran500

Deleted User wrote: »

How do they know what you're downloading?

I can understand they might know that you are downloading something, but how do they know if its illegal or not?

Probably the same way UK ISP's warn downloaders, record/movie companies hire a company to go onto P2P services and gather all the IP's of people downloading. They forward these to an ISP and the ISP sends you a nice letter. Of course there is a huge problem with this as theres nothing in place to look over the companies that gather IP's and they can decide to warn whatever IP's they wish.

Deleted User wrote: »

Wouldn't that lead to ISP's losing (possibly) millions of customers?

I doubt they will be aiming to disconnect every downloader, just the heavy users.

dr.bollocko

Oh thank christ.
Soon I will be free.

Ciaran500

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Probably the same way UK ISP's warn downloaders, record/movie companies hire a company to go onto P2P services and gather all the IP's of people downloading. They forward these to an ISP and the ISP sends you a nice letter. Of course there is a huge problem with this as theres nothing in place to look over the companies that gather IP's and they can decide to warn whatever IP's they wish.


I doubt they will be aiming to disconnect every downloader, just the heavy users.

Hmm. I don't know. I don't see this working out at all. I know its not going to be long before the interweb is eventually patrolled somehow (as it is right now, you can essentially watch/play/say/download whatever you want on here) but i don't think people will be very happy with any changes.


But I think the big question is... will us cheapskates stand up to, and i quote, "the man"?

How long before a "smokescreen" of encrypted and misnamed files flood the network to thwart the "media police"'s efforts to identify the culprits.

After all if 90% of traffic is garbage, would they really pay for the resourced required to prove the deed.

I remember the final days of Napster in it's original form, full of mis-named files avoiding the filters, it continued to wirk, untill it was shut down.

Capt'n Midnight

if all else fails they can get satellite broadband - latency is crap but downloading should be ok

tor

if it passes in france we could be next :eek:

Capt'n Midnight

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

if it passes in france we could be next :eek:

So true..

Attack is the best Defence!

Run_to_da_hills

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

if it passes in france we could be next :eek:

They could punish us for saying bad things about the authorities. :eek:

Jokes aside if this gets through in France it could open the floodgates for banning internet acces for other offences such as unauthorised software and WIFI hacking.

Australia is currently in danger of going down the same slippery slope as china with regards to internet censorship. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7689964.stm