Aw come on man!

wet-paint

After a night on the beer, I decided to sleep in the car in town last Thursday night, and woke up around half ten to find a ****ing parking ticket on the window as I was on double yellow lines.

I was full sure you couldn't ticket a car when there's someone in control of it, but for the sake of forty bucks I'm not bothered to contest it.
The main thing about it was that these wardens are there to ensure the free flow of traffic, not to make goddamn money for the council. If he wanted the obstruction gone, he could have knocked on the window and told me to clear off instead of nice and quietly putting the ticket under the wiper. He was just being fúcking mean, and that had me angry as hell.

I'm pretty pissed as there's nobody I can complain about this ****job, and anyone I ring at the Coco won't be the one responsible.

Darragh29

Your lucky you didn't get done for being drunk in charge, then a parking ticket would be the very least of your problems...

galwaytt

test it, I dare you.

sitting in car drunk, is technically drunk-driving, or to be more correct.........oops, beat me to it.!

i think your comment you would have moved it asked, despite being pissed, tbh, merits you an honorary 12pts on your licence........

Plug

wet-paint wrote: »

After a night on the beer, I decided to sleep in the car in town last Thursday night, and woke up around half ten to find a ****ing parking ticket on the window as I was on double yellow lines.

I was full sure you couldn't ticket a car when there's someone in control of it, but for the sake of forty bucks I'm not bothered to contest it.
The main thing about it was that these wardens are there to ensure the free flow of traffic, not to make goddamn money for the council. If he wanted the obstruction gone, he could have knocked on the window and told me to clear off instead of nice and quietly putting the ticket under the wiper. He was just being fúcking mean, and that had me angry as hell.

I'm pretty pissed as there's nobody I can complain about this ****job, and anyone I ring at the Coco won't be the one responsible.

What I find that works great is to simply leave the wipers on fast mode:D

Anan1

Stop whinging, you were lucky enough.

craichoe

wet-paint wrote: »

After a night on the beer, I decided to sleep in the car in town last Thursday night, and woke up around half ten to find a ****ing parking ticket on the window as I was on double yellow lines.

I was full sure you couldn't ticket a car when there's someone in control of it, but for the sake of forty bucks I'm not bothered to contest it.
The main thing about it was that these wardens are there to ensure the free flow of traffic, not to make goddamn money for the council. If he wanted the obstruction gone, he could have knocked on the window and told me to clear off instead of nice and quietly putting the ticket under the wiper. He was just being fúcking mean, and that had me angry as hell.

I'm pretty pissed as there's nobody I can complain about this ****job, and anyone I ring at the Coco won't be the one responsible.

Yup, very lucky you didnt get done for in control of a vehicle under the influence

tossy

The last guy he found sleeping in the car and woke them up to give them a ticket probably attacked him,he was dead right leaving it on the windscreen,im sure you would be very obliging and courteous after been woken up with a hangover to be given a parking a ticket!

Like the others said count yourself lucky that it wasn't the guards that found you!

ntlbell

isn't it only dirnk driving if one

your in the driving seat and two the key must be in the ignition?

galwaytt

I think this thread has potential !!

galwaytt

ntlbell wrote: »

isn't it only dirnk driving if one

your in the driving seat and two the key must be in the ignition?

nope - key/no key, makes no difference.

Anan1

galwaytt wrote: »

I think this thread has potential !!

pred racer

craichoe wrote: »

Yup, very lucky you didnt get done for in control of a vehicle under the influence

Has anyone ever actually been done for this?

galwaytt

pred racer wrote: »

Has anyone ever actually been done for this?

Yes, in Galway, too - Oranmore specifically, outside Keane's pub. And that's just one that I can remember, there were others........

tallaghtoutlaws

pred racer wrote: »

Has anyone ever actually been done for this?

In the states it quite common friend of mine got a DUI from sleeping in his truck one night after drinking keys were on the backseat with him as he slept. As you have the means to drive the vehicle whether you intend to or not is enough over there not too sure if its the same here but given what others have said it must be.

Traumadoc

I had a speeding fine appearance in Montrath a few years ago, the guy before me was charged with being intoxicated while in control of a vehicle, he had been drinking and had gone back to the artic cab to sleep. Guards woke him and he was charged. Lost his license, and his job.

LightningBolt

Would that law still apply if I was to sleep in the car but put the keys in the boot and sleep in the back?

pred racer

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

In the states it quite common friend of mine got a DUI from sleeping in his truck one night after drinking keys were on the backseat with him as he slept. As you have the means to drive the vehicle whether you intend to or not is enough over there not too sure if its the same here but given what others have said it must be.

Yeah I knew about it in the states, I was nearly done for it meself (after being brought down the station, I finally managed to convince them it was a mates car and he had the keys;) )

Id just never heard of it here. I'd be a small bit pissed off to be done for it, having not driven anywhere............

dr.bollocko

Traumadoc wrote: »

I had a speeding fine appearance in Montrath a few years ago, the guy before me was charged with being intoxicated while in control of a vehicle, he had been drinking and had gone back to the artic cab to sleep. Guards woke him and he was charged. Lost his license, and his job.

Sher you could apply the same law to a fecking RV. Artic cabs are designed with bed berths for people to sleep...

tallaghtoutlaws

pred racer wrote: »

Yeah I knew about it in the states, I was nearly done for it meself (after being brought down the station, I finally managed to convince them it was a mates car and he had the keys;) )

Id just never heard of it here. I'd be a small bit pissed off to be done for it, having not driven anywhere............

What most folk do in the US is put the keys in under the wheel arch of the vehicle so then technically the keys are no longer in the car/truck and hence you are not in the position to drive the vehicle.:D

tallaghtoutlaws

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Sher you could apply the same law to a fecking RV. Artic cabs are designed with bed berths for people to sleep...

In the US Artic and RV drivers wont get done once the key is not in the front part of the cab of the truck and RV etc and once they are parked in a proper truck stop or layover they are fine. I would imagine it would be the same here. If the driver is in the bed compartment I can't see how he was done unless he was asleep in the front compartment.

Senna

The garda dont enforce this law then, cause ive been asleep a few times in the car with the keys in my pocket and the garda woke me up. I just told them the keys are in my pocket and i was sleeping it off. They told me to walk home the first time and the next time (was the morning after) i asked them to breathalysed me to see if i could drive, but they didn't have one so i just walked home.

This was a good few years ago, but i was always sure i couldn't be done for drink driving unless the keys were in the ignition.

Traumadoc

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

In the US Artic and RV drivers wont get done once the key is not in the front part of the cab of the truck and RV etc and once they are parked in a proper truck stop or layover they are fine. I would imagine it would be the same here. If the driver is in the bed compartment I can't see how he was done unless he was asleep in the front compartment.

I remember the guy in the artic was in the back of his cab with his feet on the drivers seat, the guard had initially said he was asleep in the drivers seat but then "qualified" his statement. The keys were in the ignition though.

Berty

A guy in Limerick went to court because he was arrested for being in control of a vehicle whilst under the influence.

He parked in the train station(€3 forever or until they tow your car, cant beat that) as his appt parking had none. He bought some chips in the local chipper and switched on the engine to warm himself up whilst he ate his chips. It was cold and raining in winter. Gardai cuffed him(mid chips) and locked him up for the night.

He went to court with the video evidence from the car park which showed he actually had not even moved his car in 8 days.

Judge threw the case out and gave him a stern talking to about being in control of a vehicle under the influence.

markos79

next time stop being a cheapo and get a taxi home!!

in anyways it will give the taximan a chance to screw you with his new increased rates.:D

the_syco

wet-paint wrote: »

he could have knocked on the window and told me to clear off

So that the copper down the road would take your license, and ban you from driving for 6 years? Cop on lad!

NewApproach

Considering the ticket would have been issued the following morning, it is likely he would at that stage be OK to drive legally. Certainly at this stage it could not be proven he was intoxicated.

I believethe OP has nothing to lose by appealing the parking ticket

Yakult

quirke_folder wrote: »

Gardai cuffed him(mid chips)

Damn, he must have been pretty pissed off lol.

javaboy

wet-paint wrote: »

I was full sure you couldn't ticket a car when there's someone in control of it, but for the sake of forty bucks I'm not bothered to contest it.

So you either get done for:

• Being drunk at the wheel
• Being asleep at the wheel
• A parking ticket

I know which one I'd choose. I don't see how you can contend you were "in control" of it when you were clearly asleep while it was ticketed.

Lord Nikon

Well, if you scored that night, you would have slept at all

seanybiker

i was pushing me bike home from pub a few months back. Had keys in ignition. Cops pulled up beside me. Asked what i was doing and drove off.

Henry Ford III

Isn't there something about not having the keys on you or in the car meaning you are not "in charge" of the car?

Blitzkrieger

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

got a DUI from sleeping in his truck one night after drinking keys were on the backseat with him as he slept. As you have the means to drive the vehicle whether you intend to or not is enough over there

That's retarded. I'm just as much in control of the vehicle when I'm in my bed asleep as in the back seat asleep.

I've heard a Garda say that if the keys are in the ignition you're in trouble. I know of one lad that got done because he was asleep with the keys in the igntion. He had no itention of driving and didn't even start the engine - just put them there out of habit. Starting the engine to warm yourself up is a big no-no.

Slept in the car once during the summer as a last resort. I wouldn't dream of it during the winter - you'd die of exposure...

maidhc

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Isn't there something about not having the keys on you or in the car meaning you are not "in charge" of the car?

Correct.

I'd love to test a case whereby you have the key, but not the immobiliser chip.

galwaytt

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

That's retarded. I'm just as much in control of the vehicle when I'm in my bed asleep as in the back seat asleep....

LOL, is that the measure of how good your driving is ??

helimachoptor

galwaytt wrote: »

nope - key/no key, makes no difference.

how can you be in control of a motor vehicle if you cant turn the motor on??

DAN_H

just pay the 40 euro and get over urself

<personal insult removed>

javaboy

maidhc wrote: »

Correct.

I'd love to test a case whereby you have the key, but not the immobiliser chip.

It would be interesting. I'd guess the wording of the legislation is just something like "in charge of the ve-hicle" rather than any mention of keys or ignition or even the car being 'on'.

At the same time, not really worth taking a test case just for the sake of proving a small point.

RobAMerc

Responses here seem pretty typical of the high horse, holier than thou horse **** that gets posted by the boards motoring 'enthusiasts', but anyway -

I don't see why people are telling him he's lucky not to get done for drink driving - I'm not actually convinced the warden shouldn't have just left him alone.( Although he may not have even seen the chap inside )

Is it not better he slept in the back of the car than tried to drive it home? Are people giving him grief and calling him a moron for choosing to sleep in the car rather than a bed is that it ? Can someone explain the harm he was doing ?

maidhc

RobAMerc wrote: »

Is it not better he slept in the back of the car than tried to drive it home? Are people giving him grief and calling him a moron for choosing to sleep in the car rather than a bed is that it ? Can someone explain the harm he was doing ?

It isn't in his interest to do it, seriosly.

Berty

Read this.

Dead guy gets parking ticket.

http://www.discussionforums.us/forum/odd-news/12214-dead-man-gets-parking-ticket.html

You Could have been dead also!!

javaboy

RobAMerc wrote: »

Responses here seem pretty typical of the high horse, holier than thou horse **** that gets posted by the boards motoring 'enthusiasts', but anyway -

I don't see why people are telling him he's lucky not to get done for drink driving - I'm not actually convinced the warden shouldn't have just left him alone.( Although he may not have even seen the chap inside )

But he can't have it both ways. In his very first post, he contends he shouldn't have got a ticket because he was "in control" of the vehicle.

If he's in control of the vehicle, he's asleep at best, or drunk at worst, at the wheel. If he's not in control of the vehicle then he can't argue against the ticket.

Personally I think the warden should have just knocked on the window but maybe the warden's had bad experiences with drunks being rudely awakened. Or maybe the warden thought it safer to ticket him than to wake him up because he might drive off still drunk. Anyway it's not the parking warden's job to wake people up. He was parked where he shouldn't have been.


If the OP had just said "I got a ticket while asleep. The warden could have just woke me up instead of ticketing me." it would have been fair enough but he's trying to make out like he shouldn't legally have been ticketed because he was "in control" when clearly he wasn't.

Holsten

How did you manage to actually get asleep?

I've tried it a few times and it's impossible!

Berty

Holsten wrote: »

How did you manage to actually get asleep?

I've tried it a few times and it's impossible!

More importantly how did you manage to sleep in an Urban area till 10:30am???

afatbollix

the reason for it all was if you were driving and come up to a check point. lads were just stopping... the gardai would come over but the guy could say he wasent driving... then lads would throw away keys or eat the key to say they dont have them...

if your asleep if you get a cnut of a gard he could do ya... a sound one wouldent...

tallaghtoutlaws

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

That's retarded. I'm just as much in control of the vehicle when I'm in my bed asleep as in the back seat asleep.

No your statement is more retarded. In your bed in your house you have less likely the urge while drunk to get up and go out and into to your car and drive. If you sleep in the car with your keys on you have a higher percentage of driving it somewhere. Besides these laws are most likely set to stop drunks pulling over after driving drunk and pretending they were "sleeping" and not driving.

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

I've heard a Garda say that if the keys are in the ignition you're in trouble. I know of one lad that got done because he was asleep with the keys in the igntion. He had no itention of driving and didn't even start the engine - just put them there out of habit. Starting the engine to warm yourself up is a big no-no.

Whether you intend to or not you how does the cop know you havent been driving or dont intend to after he goes away??

See the problem here is that this is one of these things people will never agree on. But the simple matter of fact people do stupid things with drink on them whether they intend to or not. The fact you are in a vehicle and have the ability to stick the keys in the ignition and drive of you are still a danger to yourself and others. It might be a stupid law but if it is one here we got to abide by it unfortunately.

wet-paint

RobAMerc wrote: »

Responses here seem pretty typical of the high horse, holier than thou horse **** that gets posted by the boards motoring 'enthusiasts', but anyway -

I don't see why people are telling him he's lucky not to get done for drink driving - I'm not actually convinced the warden shouldn't have just left him alone.( Although he may not have even seen the chap inside )

Is it not better he slept in the back of the car than tried to drive it home? Are people giving him grief and calling him a moron for choosing to sleep in the car rather than a bed is that it ? Can someone explain the harm he was doing ?

Ah, sweet. I was wondering how many pages it'd go on til someone didn't say "Ah but it could have been worse."

If anyone knows Galway, it's Ballalley Lane, to the right of the Eyre Square Centre, is where the car was.
I used the words "in control of the car" as that's how I presume the wardens would think, similar to the cops?
I didn't have the keys in the ignition, I was sitting on them, but from what I presume would be the warden's pov, I was still in control of it. That's the only reason why I said it.

And most people may see this as a MASSIVE backtrack (I guess it does look that way though tbh) but when I said I'd been on the beer, I hadn't enough to be drunk the morning after, but I had been on a whole load of something else that I didn't really feel like announcing online, and that wouldn't have been picked up on a breathalyser the morning after, if you get me. So I was fine to drive home that morning, but not that night, and I did.

And I regularly sleep in the car, I have a sleeping bag in it, and a pair of eye cover things from an aeroplane, so I'm usually snug in there.

The main point of the post was I was trying to find out if yer man was justified in ticketing the car when I was in it, without trying to sound like people who post up "Just got caught speeding - how do I get out of it?"
There you have it.

Anan1

NewApproach wrote: »

I believethe OP has nothing to lose by appealing the parking ticket

Appeal it on what basis?

Toots

RobAMerc wrote: »

I'm not actually convinced the warden shouldn't have just left him alone.( Although he may not have even seen the chap inside )

That's actually a good point. The warden may not have even checked to see if there was someone asleep in the car. If it was me, I wouldn't have, purely cos I wouldn't expect to see someone asleep in a car in the middle of town. If I did see someone lying in the back of it, TBH I'd probably have called the Gardaí or an ambulance or something in case the person was sick or worse....

trellheim

how do you know he didn't knock on the window ?

misnomer

I know its a bit off topic but why sleep in the car in the first place? have you no friends to put you up for the night or how about a taxi home