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Clipped by a bus today, again!

  • 03-11-2008 06:49PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭


    The auld Aircoach brushed me today, passed me and then pulled in before he got by me. I ended up having to hop onto the pavement to avoid an accident. That's the second time that's happened to me with Aircoach.

    It would seem to me that they are much worse for cutting you up than Dublin Buss. Has anyone else noticed this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭72hundred


    Driver apologise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Gavin


    studiorat wrote: »
    The auld Aircoach brushed me today, passed me and then pulled in before he got by me. I ended up having to hop onto the pavement to avoid an accident. That's the second time that's happened to me with Aircoach.

    It would seem to me that they are much worse for cutting you up than Dublin Buss. Has anyone else noticed this?

    If the bus actually touched you, that's seriously dangerous, I'd be going nuts, complaining to Aircoach and probably TrafficWatch.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    I had exactly the same thing happen to me about 6 months ago. Stillorgan road. Pulled in on top of me.
    I hopped on the bus...............and gave him a severe verbal bollicking in front of all the passengers. Making sure they all understood that he nearly killed me.
    I nearly had to be "dug outta him".
    :pac::pac::pac:

    They don't give a flyin'..........
    Agree, much worse than Dublin Bus, and they're ...............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    my housemate always insists they are the worst drivers. they're not on my route so I can't vouch.

    I was talking to a bicycle gard about my incident(confusing sign thread), I wasn't actually touched but he said definitely report the incident and make a complaint to dublin bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭72hundred


    Personally if the driver apologises when he/she cuts me off, I appreciate that they genuinely didn't mean to cut me off, and I think that's fair enough.

    Although if it was dangerous, I would usual voice my concerns to the driver, often though that's more because of the adrenaline that's in your system after a close shave!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭-Blanco-


    I've had this happen to me before... I've had afew incidents with Bus Eireann drivers too..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭SetOverSet


    Glad you're ok mate - lucky there wasn't railings or something on your left and you had an 'out'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,053 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    There been a few comments on the boards abut how good bus drivers are. In particular Bus Eireann. I have to say its been 50:50 for me. Some are good however there are some that take delight in squeezing you, and following you really closely when on the bike. My pet hate though its though that indicate and pull out at the same time, usually without looking. Usually as you are alongside and commit to overtake, either on the bike or the car. That said they are not as bad as taxi drivers. So thats something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    SetOverSet wrote: »
    Glad you're ok mate - lucky there wasn't railings or something on your left and you had an 'out'.

    Just passed a few bike racks. Ewww! Hadn't thought of that. I've usually found Dublin bus drivers quite good but this is the second close one with these other guys.

    I don't think the guy even noticed, anyway there was a phone call made. Guy asked me was there a cycle lane. No I said, but what the fcuk has that got to do with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    studiorat wrote: »
    I don't think the guy even noticed, anyway there was a phone call made. Guy asked me was there a cycle lane. No I said, but what the fcuk has that got to do with it?
    Bus drivers are allowed drive their buses into you if there is a cycle lane and you are not using it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,053 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    blorg wrote: »
    Bus drivers are allowed drive their buses into you if there is a cycle lane and you are not using it.

    Ah that explains a few things...:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭High&Low


    I've had a few incidents with air coaches as well. The company don't give a sh!t when you complain. Also had a few incidents with bendy buses and when I complained to Dublin Bus they more or less told me that incidents with bendy-buses were unavoidable as due to the length of the buses it can sometimes be difficult for the drivers to judge/see when they have fully passed a cyclists!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Muller_1


    I've also had close shaves with Air Coach drivers. The worst was cycling past Sachs Hotel in Donnybrook on the way into town where the road sweeps around to the left the bus completly cut the corner and almost wiped me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭Ghost Rider


    I've also noticed Air Coach drivers being less than considerate than their Dublin Bus counterparts. Maybe they were once Dublin Bus drivers who, like Dirty Harry, were rejected by their erstwhile employers for being "just too damn dangerous".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    I sent an email to Aircoach yesterday with the opening line - Dublin cyclists are concerned about dangerous driving by Aircoach bus drivers. - with a link to this thread.

    Today I got an email from Brendan Gallagher, Customer Services Manager, saying they had responded to a cyclist and apologised to him, following a reported incident on Monday 3rd November.

    See what I did there? I recorded the incident, and have a copy of it here, and in my emails.

    If we keep reporting to Aircoach (hope we don't need to) and keep it recorded, then Aircoach know there is a case being built against them.

    Should we open a Dublin Bus incident thread, and an Aircoach incident thread in the stickies? (who, what, where, when, reported, response)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,223 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    High&Low wrote: »
    Also had a few incidents with bendy buses and when I complained to Dublin Bus they more or less told me that incidents with bendy-buses were unavoidable as due to the length of the buses it can sometimes be difficult for the drivers to judge/see when they have fully passed a cyclists!!!

    Those bendy buses have no place on Dublin's streets in my opinion. Their sole advantage is that they have multiple doors to allow fast loading and unloading of passengers, but Dublin Bus don't use these for fear of fare evasion. As far as I know, they make traffic worse in general as they tend to block Dublin's tight junctions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Spoke to Brendan today, he explained to me that he had spoken to the driver and sent his apologies and explained the situation as to how the whole thing happened. That's fair enough IMO, seemed the driver was avoiding traffic on his right too.

    It would seem that their card has been marked and I'm happy enough with that. It was a close one though! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    Some AirCoach drivers still haven't learnt how to share the road, it seems. See video description for response from Brendan at AirCoach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Is that video not 5 years old?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    That fella on the bike is an absolute tool.

    He was no way at all put in danger the bus overtook slow and was over the other side of the road leaving loads of room.

    If you drove at 1.5 meters the cars would be passing up the inside.

    Seems like another crazy looking for trouble and trying to belittle another.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Are you sure its a 5 year old video.

    The 1/1 sounds like a date a camera would revert to if the date hadn't been set on it correctly.

    The reg on the bus looks like 09


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Are you sure its a 5 year old video.

    The 1/1 sounds like a date a camera would revert to if the date hadn't been set on it correctly.

    The reg on the bus looks like 09


    You may be right there the bus type in video was brought in on 2008 and 2009 never thought of that.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Are you sure its a 5 year old video.

    The 1/1 sounds like a date a camera would revert to if the date hadn't been set on it correctly.

    The reg on the bus looks like 09

    Well spotted, that's definitely not New Year's Day weather :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭levi


    That video was uploaded in the last few days. I think the date stamp on the camera is just off. Look at the rest of the videos on his channel - I'm a cyclist who likes to feel safe on the road but this fella seems to be picking fights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    Definitely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭fleet


    Bizzare...

    I've been cut off exactly once in the last ten years commuting/leisure.
    circa 25,000km on bicycle

    Maybe I'm just cautious/paranoid and avoid brushes with traffic while on two wheels.
    Don't think so though... I fairly smashed up that Audi I hit with my motorbike...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,639 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    what is wrong with those overtakes really? The first there was still quite a lot of room, the next two were close but the lines on the road still marked a clear divide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Alias G


    but the lines on the road still marked a clear divide.

    Thats one of the many flaws in the design of cycle lanes. A taxi or bus can pass at a distance of a few inches from your handlebars, but the fact that you are travelling in two separate lanes gives drivers the confidence that they are giving you adequate space. Hitting a pothole or other obstacle at that point could be disastrous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    In that video, is the red strip on the adjacent pavement a cycle lane?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    el tel wrote: »
    In that video, is the red strip on the adjacent pavement a cycle lane?

    If you're referencing the red strip at the end of the video to the cyclists left then yes. He wanted to overtake the bus driver to shout at him so didn't follow the lane. Granted, about 70% of the time there is a car perched over that red strip waiting to join traffic and you will either have to stop or hop off the curb and join traffic so I avoid it myself. It's on the N11 across from the Stillorgan Park Hotel if I'm not mistaken.


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