Motorbike lessons

Tony Danza

I want to get some bike lessons (complete beginner), but they seem to be much more expensive than I thought. I see on ISM they are €140 for 2 hours :eek: Some other site think it was motorbiketraining.net, it's around €200 for 3 hours. Since a car lesson is around €35, I didn't expect a bike to be twice the price for something that costs a lot less to buy??? Does anybody know of any other places that give lessons at a more reasonable price?

TheDriver

I agree with you, bike lessons are very expensive compared to cars.

Tony Danza

TheDriver wrote: »

I agree with you, bike lessons are very expensive compared to cars.

I guess there's no cheaper way around it then? It's pretty ridiculous, I mean surely a bike is about a third or quarter the price of a car?

EvilMonkey

Tony Danza wrote: »

I want to get some bike lessons (complete beginner), but they seem to be much more expensive than I thought. I see on ISM they are €140 for 2 hours :eek: Some other site think it was motorbiketraining.net, it's around €200 for 3 hours. Since a car lesson is around €35, I didn't expect a bike to be twice the price for something that costs a lot less to buy??? Does anybody know of any other places that give lessons at a more reasonable price?

Thats €200 that might just save your life well worth it imo. :rolleyes:

Tony Danza

Tony Danza wrote: »

It's pretty ridiculous, I mean surely a bike is about a third or quarter the price of a car?

The bike is but the right training to ride it properly is well worth the money.

EvilMonkey

A bike trainer has higher costs, gear + insurance and a smaller market.

thehomeofDob

Some bike trainers/courses will also net you a savings on your insurance. I just did a 6hour course with David Lyons. With the fact it was a Bank Holiday and I was using his bike, I ended up paying a small fortune - however I got half it back with an insurance discount because he's an accessor for Quinn and Aon.

Tony Danza

EvilMonkey wrote: »

Thats €200 that might just save your life well worth it imo. :rolleyes:

I agree, but not what I'm asking.

So I guess nobody knows where I can get cheaper lessons. OK, thanks.

brian plank

if you know someone who has experience with bikes just ask them to give you a few. find a quiet road or lane and practice moving off, stopping and going up amd down through the gears. lessons are a rip-off.

WOGGET

yeah lessons are a rip off alright compared to a car at least. however i still think that you should get a few, biking can be very dangerous if you dont know what your doing. id recommend aaron rider training in finglas - peter's a sound bloke!

Tony Danza

WOGGET wrote: »

yeah lessons are a rip off alright compared to a car at least. however i still think that you should get a few, biking can be very dangerous if you dont know what your doing. id recommend aaron rider training in finglas - peter's a sound bloke!

Cheers for the info. Do you have a number you can PM me? Any idea what he charges?

TheDriver

brian plank wrote: »

if you know someone who has experience with bikes just ask them to give you a few. find a quiet road or lane and practice moving off, stopping and going up amd down through the gears. lessons are a rip-off.

+1, find someone who is sound, safe and maybe does instructing/teaching in something so they will have patience to show you

JCDenton

Hi folks,

Sorry to hijack this thread - but I've got the exact same question as Tony Danza (!).

I've got a shiny new "Learner Permit" in my hand today, and know NOTHING about bikes; so, rip-off or not - I really need a lesson at the moment, to cover the very basics (on/off, turning, braking, etc)

I don't even have a bike either yet.

With the above in mind - is there any kind of training I can do that will help with insurance costs, etc, when I do buy the bike itself?
(From what I've read, the AON and Quinn assessment tests are currently a bit too advanced for me and I'm afraid I'd fail them!)


Thanks!

rgfuller

If you are in Dublin you could try these guys: http://www.aaronridertraining.com
Prices are a 'little' cheaper:

Own Bike

3 hours on own bike 150 euro
7 hours on own bike 300 euro


Hire Bike (including insurance)

3 hours on hire bike 200 euro
7 hours on hire bike 350 euro
2 day intensive course 700 euro

I have no association with the company other than they were recommended to me by a friend who had used them prior to passing his test, I have not used them myself yet, but plan to when I get my test date.

jmck87

Fingal County Council do whats called the Silver Star Rider Course

Its 12 hours of tuition for only 225 euro !!!!!

It runs at weekends....4 hours on sat, 4 on sunday, then 4 on the next saturday.

When I did it there was 6 'pupils' and 4 instructors. 2 of which were complete beginners and got 1 to 1 tuition for the complete 12 hours.

The course is based in the county council depot in Swords.

I couldnt recommend it enough for begineer bikers....the instructors are top lads.

Edit - they also get you a hired bike if you need at an extra cost by the way (not sure how much)

Dont have contact number but if you ring the main county council office in Swords and ask for Peter Murphy in Road Safety you'll get all the info you need.

gipi

Fingal Co co also provide a Bronze Star Rider course, which is 4 hours and geared towards the complete newbie - it all takes place in the Co Council yard in Swords, so you don't have to go on the road until you're ready.

Not sure of the cost of the bronze course as I did the silver star myself recently.

And as a PS to jmck's post, it costs €100 extra to hire the school bike for the silver star - there's a long waiting list though, I booked in August, did the course in early Oct, the bikers who had hired bikes had booked last April!

JCDenton

Does anyone have any experience with a guy called David Lyons?

"Easy Rider Training"

http://www.motorbiketraining.net

Steffano2002

JCDenton wrote: »

Does anyone have any experience with a guy called David Lyons?

"Easy Rider Training"

http://www.motorbiketraining.net

He's EXCELLENT! Couldn't recommend him enough! He helped me get my Full License and he's a top bloke! Go for it 100%!

contact23

used a guy in carlow , he came to kilkenny to me , ger fitz is his name , good entry level training at € 200 for 3, 2 hour sessions, and passed me test !!pm if u want number

abal

I can recommend www.roadcode.ie
I am currently taking lessons with Brian. He is very patient. He charges €120 for two hours and will offer discount of €55 per one hour lesson.
For that he will provide the bikes and all the gear including helmets to suit all sizes. that way you can try before you buy.
He works out of a compound in Finglus and another in Dundalk, but I know mthat he also covers the test routes in Navan too.

An all round good instructor.:)


Signed: nervouse female student

demac

I'm taking lessons with Brian in www.roadcode.ie too. I also think he's very good at this game and can highly recommend.

jameshayes

Better to find someone who is RoSPA certified! Might be cheap but you want the best qualified!

traco

If you're west of Dublin or Kildare try these guys - ABC Motorcycle Training. They use the leinster driving campus outside maynooth which is a fantastic setup, including lights, roundabout and lots of various junctions to get a feel for the bike in a controlled road environment.

3 hours inc bike hire and use of the facility is €240, training is excellent and well worth it if you are new to biking. I rode a bike 16 years ago, though I knew a bit but to be honest I didn't. As some of teh the others have pointed out, spending the cash on lessons could help save your life and I think no matter how capable you are you will still learn something from an instructor.

I passed the test first time after 3 lessons, not cheap but will worth it in my opinion.

LookBehindYou

Is this an advertising board,,, or a board for advise ???

Just get an ADI instructor, listed in: www.rsa.ie and you can see county by county who are registered.

Interceptor

LookBehindYou wrote: »

Is this an advertising board,,, or a board for advise ???

Just get an ADI instructor, listed in: www.rsa.ie and you can see county by county who are registered.

Ah hello Gay, hows the ould retirement going for you? You're a bit late answering these people - a bit like most of what you do.

Would you ever get Kathleen to play us a tune on her harp and get us all out of this stoopid receshun. Begorrah.

I had a look at your ould website there and its awfully complicated and theres a terrible smell of 'Oh jaysus we're all going to die' in there. Have you no ould list of bike instructors that you'd put on it for simplicity? No, sure I forgot its the RSA - nothing simple there.

Anyway - to answer your question, this is a chatty-chatty-bing-board - we all try and help each other out and on the weekends we have surprize buttsekks. But don't tell anyone.

'cptr

Steffano2002

You're on fire 'ceptor!!!

Cuddlesworth

LookBehindYou wrote: »

Is this an advertising board,,, or a board for advise ???

Just get an ADI instructor, listed in: www.rsa.ie and you can see county by county who are registered.

At the point where the RSA introduces realistic standards for testing both new and current licenses is where I will bother checking their site. Until then I happily recommend David Lyons, well worth the money. The guy is a patient genius and the main reason I am still alive.

Only got that gay joke after about two reads. I think I'm getting slow.

EvilMonkey

LookBehindYou wrote: »

Is this an advertising board,,, or a board for advise ???

Just get an ADI instructor, listed in: www.rsa.ie and you can see county by county who are registered.

That site is a load of ****, you cant even get a list of bike instructors you have to look through a list covering everything.
Anyway as far as i can tell everyone recommended is on the RSA list, whats the problem?

Heres a list of bike instructors.
http://www.bikeireland-ie.com/training_.htm

maccarthy_annem

Try the guys at MSA Motorcycle Safety Association as well. Good guys, they run 3 day (6 hour long each day) courses on their bike (or your own if you have one) at approx EUR850 if using theirs - will take you One to One from absolute beginner through to radio control and out on the road. They're recognised Insurance assessors as well and listed on AON and Quinn

maccarthy_annem

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction....A. Einstein
Do you think anyone there would take a leave out of Albert's book??

Cuddlesworth

maccarthy_annem wrote: »

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction....A. Einstein
Do you think anyone there would take a leave out of Albert's book??

Is there just a touch of crazy going on here or is it just me?

LookBehindYou

just crazy

Interceptor

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Is there just a touch of crazy going on here or is it just me?

No, its just you. Everything normal here - I checked a couple of times.

'c

Cuddlesworth

Interceptor wrote: »

No, its just you. Everything normal here - I checked a couple of times.

'c

Whoaaaa! Something is definatly up when you don't sign off your posts right. Who are you and what have you done with the real 'cptr!!

Interceptor

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Whoaaaa! Something is definatly up when you don't sign off your posts right. Who are you and what have you done with the real 'cptr!!

Dang, I thought I'd finally made it onto someones 'Ignore list'. Oh well. No, I sign my first post of a thread with 'cptr and any subsequent posts in the same thread with the appreviated abbreviation.

I'm like Prince with my little symbols and purple motorbike (less hair and more belly though...).

'c

Esm

Hi Guys..

If you are willing to travel to Enniskillen a top bike instructor Brian Mc Ger operates his own private training ground there at really reasonable prices, £35 (ish) as far as I can remember.. 0044 7968135310

uncle betty

maccarthy_annem wrote: »

Try the guys at MSA Motorcycle Safety Association as well. Good guys, they run 3 day (6 hour long each day) courses on their bike (or your own if you have one) at approx EUR850 if using theirs - will take you One to One from absolute beginner through to radio control and out on the road. They're recognised Insurance assessors as well and listed on AON and Quinn

Hi. Was just looking at their site now, and I have a question about the Insurance Assessment.

IS that instruction ? Or is it just you go along and they look at you, and if you're ok they'll give you a cert, and you get cheaper insurance ?

If I get the cert and ring Carole Nash, will they refund some of my premium ? I'm seven months into my insurance policy at this stage.

I don't know whether I should go for that, to try and save a few bob on insurance over time... or spend the money on doing the basic instruction instead.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Cuddlesworth

uncle betty wrote: »

Hi. Was just looking at their site now, and I have a question about the Insurance Assessment.

IS that instruction ? Or is it just you go along and they look at you, and if you're ok they'll give you a cert, and you get cheaper insurance ?

If I get the cert and ring Carole Nash, will they refund some of my premium ? I'm seven months into my insurance policy at this stage.

I don't know whether I should go for that, to try and save a few bob on insurance over time... or spend the money on doing the basic instruction instead.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Mine was six hours, 5 hours training for the last hour of assessment. I saved about 350 euro on 6 months insurance for a 300 euro test. Renewal coming up I'm looking at about another 500 euros. If your in early days of biking then it pays for itself.

onmaki

Tony Danza wrote: »

I want to get some bike lessons (complete beginner), but they seem to be much more expensive than I thought. I see on ISM they are €140 for 2 hours :eek: Some other site think it was motorbiketraining.net, it's around €200 for 3 hours. Since a car lesson is around €35, I didn't expect a bike to be twice the price for something that costs a lot less to buy??? Does anybody know of any other places that give lessons at a more reasonable price?

Hi, Im in the same position as Tony.... Im just wondering if anyone has information on taking motorbike courses internationally.... most goods and services cost a lot less outside Ireland, Im sure biking would too... any ideas... I am a fluent Spanish speaker and would have no problem doing a course abroad... luko

colm_c

Esm wrote: »

Hi Guys..

If you are willing to travel to Enniskillen a top bike instructor Brian Mc Ger operates his own private training ground there at really reasonable prices, £35 (ish) as far as I can remember.. 0044 7968135310

Only problem with that is that learner permits are only valid in the 26 counties, so to get there could be a problem!

Brian is very good though.

HomePainting

I did my IBT Bike Lessons with this guy TestDriver.ie

He charged €470 for 16 hours, using his bike included. I found him very good and would defo recommend him