Mate, you've been had again

EuFatCat

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1031/recycling.html

Looks like the green scam is set to further pick everyone's pockets.

Just like the "you only pay for what you throw away" propaganda has gone, as I knew it would. Now they want you to pay for giving them material which will be recycled.

Now can anyone else name a business where you are paid to get your materials????

I'm not "all in this togeather".

Mark200

I think the Government should help them out in some way. After all, if they can't sell the materials at a profit then they're going to end up in the Government-run landfills

Galvasean

Yay, more landfills!

EuFatCat

Mark200 wrote: »

I think the Government should help them out in some way. After all, if they can't sell the materials at a profit then they're going to end up in the Government-run landfills

Do you not realise that the prices have been dropped so as to give an excuse to introduce more charges.

Introduce the charge and watch the values sky rocket. There are bigger forces at work, my friend.

Biggins

On average how many hundreds (or thousands) of years does it take for all our crap to disintegrate?

Maybe by then it will have all metamorphosed into some other useful mineral!

javaboy

EuFatCat wrote: »

Do you not realise that the prices have been dropped so as to give an excuse to introduce more charges.

Introduce the charge and watch the values sky rocket. There are bigger forces at work, my friend.

Ok so what do we do now?

Ste.phen

I'm not sure what the OP is suggesting? Is it that the only reason people recycle is to save money?

I do it mostly because I think it's disgusting to throw away reusable things.

The wholesale price of recycleable materials dropping is irrelevant to that.
If it's not worth our while financially to send it abroad we should be funding domestic treatment plants and manufacture our own recycled goods such as plastics and paper.

dr.bollocko

**** those Greens and their bull**** agenda. Burn them off of the planet. On a bonfire lit with high octane petrol and old tyres.

Terry

I wouldn't wait too long for the OP to reply because I banned him for re-registering for the thousanth time.

I was actually wondering why Thorntons laid off so many people. Seems I have my answer now.

copacetic

EuFatCat wrote: »

Do you not realise that the prices have been dropped so as to give an excuse to introduce more charges.

Introduce the charge and watch the values sky rocket. There are bigger forces at work, my friend.

shouldn't you just feck off to the conspiracy theory forum with your useless rubbish?

Guy:Incognito

copacetic wrote: »

shouldn't you just feck off to the conspiracy theory forum with your useless rubbish?

Ba-Dum, tish.

copacetic

Stekelly wrote: »

Ba-Dum, tish.

well I'm glad someone noticed. that took minutes to come up with, minutes!

dr.bollocko

copacetic wrote: »

well I'm glad someone noticed. that took minutes to come up with, minutes!

I lulzeded.

Adamcp898

So it now has become financially unviable to recycle, well don't think I'll be separating my paper and plastics then, gte the Greens out, all they're doing is costing us more money.

PeakOutput

computer recyclers are the ones having a laugh i think(although id do the same thing)

you pay them to take away your old computer which at the very least covers the cost of processing they melt it down and remove all the precious metals(gold is used on the processors, silver in other parts) and they get to sell on bars of silver and gold for creamy pure profit

Terry

I thought it was free to recycle computers.
Isn't there a place in Blanchardstown or thereabouts that takes old computers and tvs and stuff?

dr.bollocko

Terry wrote: »

I thought it was free to recycle computers.
Isn't there a place in Blanchardstown or thereabouts that takes old computers and tvs and stuff?

Yep.

PeakOutput

Terry wrote: »

I thought it was free to recycle computers.
Isn't there a place in Blanchardstown or thereabouts that takes old computers and tvs and stuff?

ye there could be alright it was a few years ago i was told this either way they have a sweet deal

arybvtcw0eolkf

Terry wrote: »

I wouldn't wait too long for the OP to reply because I banned him for re-registering for the thousanth time.

I was actually wondering why Thorntons laid off so many people. Seems I have my answer now.

I vote the OP boards.ie re-cycler 2008.

El_Dangeroso

I saw a great episode of Penn and Teller's Bullsh*t where they debunked the environmental friendliness of recycling most materials. Besides aluminium cans, it takes more money and energy to recycle a lot of materials such as glass and paper than it does just to make new ones.

Plus doesn't it make sense to grow more trees for paper in order to save us all from the impending doom of global warming/climate change/whatever they're calling it this week?

Wertz

Ste.phen wrote: »

If it's not worth our while financially to send it abroad we should be funding domestic treatment plants and manufacture our own recycled goods such as plastics and paper.

This.

My blood was boiling listening to Gormley on the news@1 on friday, on this topic. Bottom has fallen out of the market for materials? So f*cking what? If we weren't such a dirty little nation reliant on other countries to take our sh*t out and clean it then this wouldn't be an issue. We can barely even re-pupl paper here let along tackle plastics or glass.
Personally I like to recycle because like the other poster above, I hate to see thing that could be re-used thrown into a hole in the ground...I'd like to see it incentiveised so that A) companies produce less waste, especially packaging and that people are encouraged to recycle with money off products or a deposit based system (glass)...but I already pay for the privilege of recycling and I'll be f*cked if I'm going to increase that payment.
Moves like this are going to encourage less recycling and promote fly tipping and illegal burning of rubbish.
Agree with the OP; another money maker...Panda, Oxigen etc are all sitting around rubbing their hands.

brianthebard

Mark200 wrote: »

I think the Government should help them out in some way. After all, if they can't sell the materials at a profit then they're going to end up in the Government-run landfills

Isn't most recycling going into landfills anyways, either here or shipped to China?

Nehaxak

Folks, http://www.camara.ie/ is a great place to pass on your old computers and related equipment. Would highly suggest you contact them in the first place when it comes to recycling old computer related equipment.

They're also appreciative of extra help if you're ever interested in volunteering your time to help them rebuild and refurbish old systems for use elsewhere in world. Very Linux friendly also, open source all the way and no hidden licence costs.

Just thought I'd mention that as an alternative to recycling.