Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

G36C

  • 30-10-2008 5:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭


    What is it exactly that attracts people to this gun? I've made myself try to like it, but I just can't. What I find weird is that it seems to be a pretty popular gun so I keep asking myself if I'm missing something, but no matter how I look at it, it still remains ugly as hell. It is seriously one of the ugliest guns I've ever seen. Can someone please enlighten me? Are there any films where they've managed to make it look cool in any way?


«1

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    matter of personal taste man.
    Most people i know like them precisely for the reason that they look cool, with their semi sci-fi stylings, you want ugly, try a famas, fn2000 or a p90;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    the beauty of airsoft there is something for everyone, i for one can not stand the bog standard m4 i hate it with a passion

    beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Less of the bullpup bashing please, personal taste I believe you call it:D.

    As for the G36 it looks the bis and very aggressive imo. plus the range of accessories for it are second only to the Armalite range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    I don't know what exactly it is about it, but even the real steel version looks it's made of plastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Ass Face wrote: »
    I don't know what exactly it is about it, but even the real steel version looks it's made of plastic.

    Thats because it is.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Personally not only do i dislike the look of any bulpup AEG...i think that there is only one practicality with the design is longer barrell-shorter gun...everything else is awkward...then again thats me...as for the G36 i am in the middle of the see-saw with it...i would use it but i would not be mad about it...i would buy an ak before a g36...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    I don't know what exactly it is about it, but even the real steel version looks it's made of plastic.

    the jg and tm version are very shiny, the ca and star have a mate finish closer to the real thing, but the real thing is mostly polymer anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Puding wrote: »
    the jg and tm version are very shiny, the ca and star have a mate finish closer to the real thing, but the real thing is mostly polymer anyway

    what are you using currently puding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    when i use a g36 i use my star g36k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Puding wrote: »
    the jg and tm version are very shiny, the ca and star have a mate finish closer to the real thing, but the real thing is mostly polymer anyway

    I have a JG G36C and a CA G36KV and I don't see much difference between them, I wouldn't call the JG shiny compared to the TM one.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Puding wrote: »
    when i use a g36 i use my star g36k

    Ah the G36K i prefer that than the C, even meaner looking in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    I have a JG G36C and a CA G36KV and I don't see much difference between them, I wouldn't call the JG shiny compared to the TM one.

    well they may no longer be like that then was a far bit of time since i;ve seen a jg g36c (for some reason they do not seem to be as popular down south well no existent really at cork) the tm is very shinny especially the pistol grip, the jg seems to be middle ground not shinny but does not have the matt textured finish of the car/star as far as i can recall.
    Ah the G36K i prefer that than the C, even meaner looking in my opinion!

    i have a soft spot for it :) especially like the ksk g46k version


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    A G36KV kitted out (real steel sorry) I wish I could get my AG36 to fit on my G36K but it won't without a slight barrel extension like this has, its a tad longer than a K yet shorter then the full size.

    800px-Latvian_G36KV.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Puding wrote: »
    the beauty of airsoft there is something for everyone, i for one can not stand the bog standard m4 i hate it with a passion

    beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that :)

    :D I'd go a step further and apply that to 90% of armalites out there.


    Yeah, I'm kind of indiffernt to the 36 series. Its typical german engineering at work, it does the job, and does it well. Function over form.

    Out of interest OP, whats your view on the Styer Aug?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    A G36KV kitted out (real steel sorry) I wish I could get my AG36 to fit on my G36K but it won't without a slight barrel extension like this has, its a tad longer than a K yet shorter then the full size.

    800px-Latvian_G36KV.jpg

    Man that latvian camo is Fugly...i remember seeing 2 lads walking around the curragh in it not so long ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Puding wrote: »
    i have a soft spot for it :) especially like the ksk g46k version


    that thing is bada$$


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Did anyone see the the new standard red dot sight on the G36A2, the KSK use the EoTech instead of though.

    800px-GewehrAG36A2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    The reason why you will probably see one all over the skirmish field, and in most peoples collections, is because the JG G36c is one of the most reliable, durable airsoft guns on the market, with high performance to boot.

    It was the first gun I bought, and I nearly feel guilty I dont use it much anymore.

    For the price..you just wont find any other AEG that performs as well in my humble opinion. Im not tech savvy, but one thing I do know, and take great interest in, is performance and durability. Because im a lepper when it comes to gun problems, I go for things that are low maintenance...and the only thing wrong with my G36C was a piston stripped some teeth after about 80k rounds.

    Its the perfect beginners gun in fairness, but I think that sometimes defaces the piece, as it would be a viable piece to any battle hardened skirmisher.

    I'm pretty confident that most of the tech savy heads would agree with me.

    And as obviously someone who works in a place where AEG's have a tendancy to come in and out like a revolving door with problems manafacturer related or alot of the time user related...in my 3 months in Eirsoft...I have never seen a G36c in for repair..fact

    Yes mine is in for repair cause i made a dogs dinner of a mod I tried.

    The design might leave alot desired for some people, but I'd have to say your the first person ive ever heard saying they found them ugly.... with argueably two of the best known guns in the real world being the AK 47 and Aramlite M4.... and irish airsofters having some love ( not by me) for steyrs....the G36C is a fresh design, of german efficency...nothing is there for the sake of it.

    I'm looking at you ****ty scope and foregrip with steyr...yes...your horrid.

    I am however a big fan of armalites...I think they look tough, they look mean, they oooze americana and are just nice in my eyes. I am not a fan of anything with floating rails,( HK416) as i find them annoyingly uncomfortable to hold. My next AEG purchase is going to be a G&G plastic m16carbine as its called on the box. After purchasing a high end expensive m16..there is a train of thought in me that says "keep buying expensive ****" but I've heard some of the lads come back in the shop saying the plastica is class...and its just the simple design i want.

    I think I'm definatly a simplistic design person, i prefer them standard out of the box...no rails no mad front end parts...just that plain ol m4 round front grip thingy majiggy.

    I am probably the same with armalites as lethal is with steyrs...a fanboi...except unlike lethal.

    I've got a leg to stand on in its defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Que: "OK GO, Here we go again!"

    Styer Bashers, :rolleyes:. Just cause you ill-proportioned body doesnt take to weilding the killing machine that is an Aug, does not make it sh1tty. Ai gave the CA A1 their first top gun award for a reason:)

    Unfortunately, I have to agree with the foregrip point, its a let down, a big one. I've removed mine. But the scope, the optics are crystal clear and perfect for a long assault rifle, and you have ironsights incorporated too.


    Anyways, back on topic, G36s....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Ah here, the sight on the AUG A1 is very good IMO in fact I couldn't fault it, the CA one anyway don't know about the JG, its a far cry better than the 3x sight on the G36 carry handle.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Que: "OK GO, Here we go again!"

    Styer Bashers

    Weird, that's exactly what I said. Except I said it when I read this:
    Out of interest OP, whats your view on the Styer Aug?

    And rather than "Styer Bashers", I said "Styer fanboi". We get it, you have an AUG and you like it. There was no need to bring it up in yet another topic where it has no purpose. And before you get on your horse again, I actually like the Styer quite a lot, having used the real one and the TM, CA and JG ones quite a bit. It's predictable repetition I loathe.


    Anyway.
    The G36 family, I think, is one of the best looking rifles out there. I was only thinking this the other day oddly enough. Every facet of it's design has clearly been meticulously thought out and they're incredibly versatile pieces. I have the standard, the k and the c myself, though the k is the one that gets the most use of all.
    Apart from how it looks, it's incredibly comfortable and easy to use. The optics aren't great but they're easily replaced by a rail, giving a choice of whatever you want. Even the AG36 is a masterpiece, showing just how awful the design of the M203 is.
    Granted there aren't as many options available for it, body wise. But then again, unlike Armalites, they don't really need all those extra options.

    Everyone has something they don't like or can't understand others liking. I can't stand box mags on anything other than a proper, heavy, bulky support gun that's supposed to have them. I also really dislike Uzis. I never understood the appeal.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I can't speak to the Airsoft version, but after playing with the real one, I do appreciate the benefits to the design. Particularly for a piston-operated rifle, it is suprisingly light, and less front-heavy than the M-4, the controls are easy to use, and I did like the twin-optic setup.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    I can't speak to the Airsoft version, but after playing with the real one, I do appreciate the benefits to the design. Particularly for a piston-operated rifle, it is suprisingly light, and less front-heavy than the M-4, the controls are easy to use, and I did like the twin-optic setup.

    NTM

    I didn't know H&K exported the dual carry handle sight. Though all you could get was the 1.5x optic. Having never used the real thing I have always wondered how the red dot sight can be accurate being that high above the barrel, must be next to no use at aiming at less than 20 meters as the point of impact will be so far off, no??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    NakedDex wrote: »
    And rather than "Styer Bashers", I said "Styer fanboi". We get it, you have an AUG and you like it. There was no need to bring it up in yet another topic where it has no purpose. And before you get on your horse again, I actually like the Styer quite a lot, having used the real one and the TM, CA and JG ones quite a bit. It's predictable repetition I loathe.

    Actually, I didnt bring it up to cause an argument. As the OP seems to severly dislike the predominant favourite that is the G36C, I wondered if he like the predominantly bashed, but I couldnt bring myself to ask about the FA-MAS. That would have been a pointless question.

    And yes, I thought you were an Aug basher before, I now know you're not. I dont have Alzheimer's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Dr_Pepper


    Sigh

    hijack.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    The G36C, as long as an assault rifle & yet is also as compact as a submachine gun. Decent weight, balanced & can be fired accurately with one-hand if the situation arises ( taking a replacement mag out of your vest ).

    Very reliable, semi & full automatic capabilities with a decent rate of fire.
    Can be slung, you can add a scope, it's easy on the pocket.

    A joy to use. Each to his ( or her ) own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Que: "OK GO, Here we go again!"

    Styer Bashers, :rolleyes:. Just cause you ill-proportioned body doesnt take to weilding the killing machine that is an Aug, does not make it sh1tty. Ai gave the CA A1 their first top gun award for a reason:)

    Bulpup is like an argument where both sides has followers and neither side is wrong...some suit some dont, i personally, hate crawling with bulpup, hate having to reaload because when you are fatigued dirty and youre hands are cold and numb, you have to look down to reload anstead of keeping a farward eye...

    Who the hell gives CA a top gun award lolz wat was it for exploding internals(JOKE)

    also anyone in the army here will agree with me in the realisation that the airsoft steyr A1 actually has better sights than the real deal lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    G3-Nut wrote: »
    hate having to reaload because when you are fatigued dirty and youre hands are cold and numb, you have to look down to reload anstead of keeping a farward eye

    also anyone in the army here will agree with me in the realisation that the airsoft steyr A1 actually has better sights than the real deal lol

    That I don't understand and alot of people say it, I don't know about anyone else but I can reload a mag without un-shouldering the AUG or taking my eye off the sight no problem and as quick as a G36. I find it no different to the standard layout.

    Back to the '36


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    That I don't understand and alot of people say it, I don't know about anyone else but I can reload a mag without un-shouldering the AUG or taking my eye off the sight no problem and as quick as a G36. I find it no different to the standard layout.

    Back to the '36

    and that exactly why you like it!!

    yes g36c...


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    G3-Nut wrote: »
    and that exactly why you like it!!

    yes g36c...

    Like it yes, but I like anything made or designed by H&K even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Weird, that's exactly what I said. Except I said it when I read this:


    And rather than "Styer Bashers", I said "Styer fanboi". We get it, you have an AUG and you like it. There was no need to bring it up in yet another topic where it has no purpose. And before you get on your horse again, I actually like the Styer quite a lot, having used the real one and the TM, CA and JG ones quite a bit. It's predictable repetition I loathe.


    Anyway.
    The G36 family, I think, is one of the best looking rifles out there. I was only thinking this the other day oddly enough. Every facet of it's design has clearly been meticulously thought out and they're incredibly versatile pieces. I have the standard, the k and the c myself, though the k is the one that gets the most use of all.
    Apart from how it looks, it's incredibly comfortable and easy to use. The optics aren't great but they're easily replaced by a rail, giving a choice of whatever you want. Even the AG36 is a masterpiece, showing just how awful the design of the M203 is.
    Granted there aren't as many options available for it, body wise. But then again, unlike Armalites, they don't really need all those extra options.

    Everyone has something they don't like or can't understand others liking. I can't stand box mags on anything other than a proper, heavy, bulky support gun that's supposed to have them. I also really dislike Uzis. I never understood the appeal.

    t2612.jpg





    OT, im a big fan of the G36c, realsteel they look nice, overall very comfortable and in airsoft there indestructable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    A JG g36c is definatly on the top my list of airsofts to get:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    and with good reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    I will buy it once i have quenched my thurst for an AK variant...i have g3 and 416 for know...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    ive got too many now so lately ive gottan a habbit of selling one to buy one :D


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    weeder wrote: »
    OT, im a big fan of the G36c, realsteel they look nice, overall very comfortable and in airsoft there indestructable

    Keyboard warriors are rife here lately...


    Incidentally, that's the first time I've seen the buffer stock used on a G36k. I might do that mod to mine. It looks rather well.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Having never used the real thing I have always wondered how the red dot sight can be accurate being that high above the barrel, must be next to no use at aiming at less than 20 meters as the point of impact will be so far off, no??

    It's a combat sight for shooting at people-sized targets, not something for pinpoint snipers shooting coins. How far off is it going to be? 4" at most? Getting hit 4" above centre mass is quite likely to ruin your day.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    Getting hit 4" above centre mass is quite likely to ruin your day.

    NTM

    Oh yes it is my friend, it will ruin it big time:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    It's a combat sight for shooting at people-sized targets, not something for pinpoint snipers shooting coins. How far off is it going to be? 4" at most? Getting hit 4" above centre mass is quite likely to ruin your day.

    NTM

    Also, you can sight your rifle at an optimum distance. The line of the sight and the projectile run almost parrallel. For a compact rifle, you might have them converge at 20M, so at long range, you would hit high, short range, you'd hit low, but at average ranges you're pretty much bang on.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    What you're talking about is a battlesight range. I believe hunters call it 'Maximum point blank'

    It's the second range at which line of flight of the bullet and line of sight meet, an for which the bullet's apogee is never more than half a target form above the line of sight. It thus guarantees a hit -somewhere- on the target by just aiming centre mass as long as the target is within a certain distance. For example, for a tank cannon, battlesight range is 1,200m, which guarantees a hit on a tank-sized target up to about 1,600m as long as you aim centre mass. 800m would hit high, 1200 would hit bullseye, 1600m would hit low.

    By figuring out this trajectory, you can also figure out the first point of intersection, which makes life a lot easier for zeroing. Thus M4s and M16s are zeroed at 25m, for a battlesight range of about 220m.

    NTM


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    I dont know how anyone could find the G36 series ugly, I think its probably the best looking rifle out there, its designed from the ground up with user friendlyness in mind and unlike most armalites its ambidextrous. theres not as much tactic-cr*p for it as their is for the M4 but for good reason, the M4 is pretty much a half century old design with a heap load of "adaptations" whereas the G36 and its accessories are all designed to around eachother instead of just bolting stuff on.,

    As as airsoft rifle, the JG G36c is one of the most reliable and robust of the guns ive owned and straight out of the box it performs better than most armalites in the same class., its very handy with the folding stock and the magazines that interlock and its all those small things that make its so comfortable for the user.

    I hate the look of the M4 myself, it has to have something bolted on or something particularly unique about it in order to get my vote,

    As for the AUG, i think its ugly as sin, although its pretty comfy. but that doesnt change the fact that its fugly. theres also very little accessories available for it and if you buy the military version your scope/sight options are very limited. i think it would be a much better idea to have the stock site removable, but thats styers designing i suppose.
    I do like some bulpups though, The TAVOR is something i would give a kidney for, i love my FN2000 too. the P90 is a brilliant little design, super compact yet performs as well as any other AEG, its just a shame its so effin ugly.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    If there's one bad point about the G36 it would be the size of the mags compared to Armalite of AUG mags they are huge. I never realised how big they were untill I got the SCAR and 416. I got a carry bag the other day that has 4 mag pouches and I can't fit a '36 mag into them. Although due to the modular design of the '36 its very easy to put a SANTAG magwell on it, hmmmm pmags on a '36, must try that out.

    btw, is the JLS FN2000 any use?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭cherubaul


    The reason the G36C is so popular in my humble opinion is that aside from the initially celebrated cm.028 which popularised the clone market it stands as a land mark in affordable air soft production. Originally retailing at about 110 all in the JG G36C which as far as I can i tell is by far and away the predominant brand on the market in ireland was exceptional quality at an exceptionally low price back in the days when E300 euro would just about buy you a skirmishable gun the JG 36 allowed those on a constrianed budget to break into the sport.

    Another reason could be that our first skirmish site was indoors where longarms were a hinderance again the C provided the perfect cheap solution to the problem a small assault rifle with a very large capacity hi-cap and foldable stock certainly gave you the edge over carbines and long arms, and you had twice the capacity as the MP5 hi-cap.

    From this basically it gained a reputation as being a solid reliable and cheap workhorse of a gun needing nothing other than a spare battery and a couple more hi caps to see you battle ready. It was also found to be able to match range with many of the long arms out there save for the likes of the M14s, and the other full length battle rifle.

    I hate the look of my G36/MG36 its ugly as sin but damn its the best damn support gun out there its more manouverable than a 249 cheaper than a M60 and much more compact than the RPK. over 2 years old now and I've lost count of how many people i've stopped dead in their tracks. as soon as I have someone in my sights I know thats it they havent a cahnce theres no question of the AEG failing.

    Many others followed suit but its the fact that its the first and most enduring that has cemented its place in popular airsoft culture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Keggers


    hairball wrote: »
    matter of personal taste man.
    Most people i know like them precisely for the reason that they look cool, with their semi sci-fi stylings, you want ugly, try a famas, fn2000 or a p90;)


    HERESY!!!

    Anyway, I can't quite pin it myself but there i just something so damn attractive about the G36c that I just can't help but like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Another G36C (and Steyr A1) user here.
    I initially got tired of the G36C after pimping it out with 3* sight and all the bits and bobs, now i've gone back to having the minimum on it (side rails, silencer & red dot sight, SA80 sling) I love it to bits.
    The only reason i'd pick the Steyr over it is that you can carry the Steyr for hours on end and barely notice it but the G36C has that "long rifle" feel to it compared to the Steyr, which i'm more used to.

    I got it in the first place for 1. reliability & 2. looks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    I really like G36C's myself, always meant to get one to massacre for that SL8 project of mine but i know i'd need two, i wouldn't wanna tear up a lovely piece like that...








    Oh and P90 for the bullpup win :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    I've just ordered a JG G36c....

    and a 3,000 round battery powered drum mag...

    and all the parts I need to build my own 3000mAh battery..

    So basically a mini SAW :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    fleet wrote: »
    I've just ordered a JG G36c....

    and a 3,000 round battery powered drum mag...

    and all the parts I need to build my own 3000mAh battery..

    So basically a mini SAW :pac:

    Epic fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    fleet wrote: »
    I've just ordered a JG G36c....

    and a 3,000 round battery powered drum mag...

    and all the parts I need to build my own 3000mAh battery..

    So basically a mini SAW :pac:

    i have one of those doing 24 rps, animal but jealous people make faces


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    gerrowadat wrote: »
    Epic fail.

    there's one now
    lol


  • Advertisement
Advertisement