hunt hard,kill swiftly

whitser

for all you men out on the first,
hunt hard,kill swiftly and work up a thirst.
may your gundogs flush only cocks,
and hounds cry well on wily fox.
enjoy a day out with a friend,
hunting field and bog til days end.
may all your kills be swift and clean,
and in the bar that night, spare a thought for gormleys greens;)

pullandbang

Nice one whitser!

The first line got me thinking.....are there any women here? Are there any women hunting? Can't say I've ever come across a hunting female. I'm in three clubs are they are all male.

hunter164

I wonder what it's like to flush a cock?

meathstevie

My six year old girl , she'll be going out with me on Sunday. Saturday is her five year old brother's turn. I'll have to go for a bit of crow decoying during the week or the three year old lad is going be narcky because he didn't go out hunting with his da.

I don't know too many ladies who shoot game in Ireland but I knew a few on the continent. Plenty of female clayshooters over here though.

whitser

pullandbang wrote: »

Nice one whitser!

The first line got me thinking.....are there any women here? Are there any women hunting? Can't say I've ever come across a hunting female. I'm in three clubs are they are all male.

my eldest girl,9, has been out shooting rabbits and squirells,she loved it, a few times with me. when her legs and body are able for a day after the hounds i hope she'll come along. and keep a love of hunting for the rest of her days. she comes along to the working dog shows in the summer to, she cant point out a jack russell from a patterdale and a harrier from a beagle, she has an eye for a decent lurcher too:)

nice1franko

Amen to that. Pheasant pie and Guinness for dinner on Sunday.

stevoman

i ca nt wait muyself. hopefully i'l shoot a cock over the weekend but if i dont, no big deal.

i was lucky i was treated to the gift of two shot hens on mondat evening from a friend who returned from a shoot in the uk. needless to say i lucked them and cleaned them on tuesday and gobbled them up last night!! i hope to have a few more in my belly by january.

Dont forget to stock up on plastic frrezer bags now lads for surplus game!!! i hate the thoughts of a bird being thrown away because you cant eat that much!

pullandbang

hunter164 wrote: »

I wonder what it's like to flush a cock?

It's heaven............

meathstevie

Seeing the dog getting agitated. The tail wagging and taking sniffs of air quicker and quicker ( he's a flushing lab ) and all of sudden the cackling the rushing of wings. You bring the gun to the shoulder, draw a bead on the cock, let him out a bit, a bit more. You make the decision, NOW, you draw ahead of him and pull the trigger and the dog takes of for the retrieve.....the stuff dreams are made of.

Stevoman; your remark about throwing away birds is one I'm very sensitive about. People who commit that sort of scandalous offence against nature and the ethics of hunting should have their guns taken of them. Last year I found a cardboard box full of rotten teal. Dumped by a cnut who couldn't be bothered cleaning them after shooting them. The lad who was out with me couldn't believe it, I was raging for about half an hour and I'm not easily angered.

stevoman

meathstevie wrote: »

Stevoman; your remark about throwing away birds is one I'm very sensitive about. People who commit that sort of scandalous offence against nature and the ethics of hunting should have their guns taken of them. Last year I found a cardboard box full of rotten teal. Dumped by a cnut who couldn't be bothered cleaning them after shooting them. The lad who was out with me couldn't believe it, I was raging for about half an hour and I'm not easily angered.

I know exactly what you mean stevie. Last year i seen about 50 pigeons thrown in a ditch "left for the foxes" even though they are a fine game bird. My firend also took his boat down the shannon hunting one day and found the reids full of dead mallard that some scumbags had shot and not even bothered to try and retreive. If people hunt and kill their game quarry and the just leave it to rot somewhere they done deserve to hunt at all im my opinion what so ever. T
The cleaning of the bird is as much a part of the ritual and art and should be givin as much thought, technique and consideration as the shooting itself.

Vegeta

stevoman wrote: »

My firend also took his boat down the shannon hunting one day and found the reids full of dead mallard that some scumbags had shot and not even bothered to try and retreive

While I agree totally on the main point you guys are making, it does happen that not all game can be retrieved sometimes.

Have you guys never lost a pheasant or woodcock in heavy cover?

Shooting Saturday morning we winged 2 duck and they kept diving and the dog could not retrieve them. Couldn't risk firing at them on the water as the dog was too close to them. I have gone swimming in winter to retrieve geese, diver and mallard but sadly it does happen sometimes that they escape wounded.

You're right though there is a big difference between 50 pigeon, a box of duck and the odd lost bird. That's very bad. Pigeon is gorgeous and if someone said here's 50 pigeons I would take the breasts off all of them and bang them into the freezer. A chicken breast is over a euro these days and 50x2 is like being given 100 quid worth of meat.

Anyway if the weather tomorrow is anything like today then we will be on for a great day out. Nearly tempted to bring the camera instead of the shotgun. Think I might put the gun away if I get one and take pics for the rest of the day.

stevoman

Vegeta wrote: »

While I agree totally on the main point you guys are making, it does happen that not all game can be retrieved sometimes.

Have you guys never lost a pheasant or woodcock in heavy cover?

Shooting Saturday morning we winged 2 duck and they kept diving and the dog could not retrieve them. Couldn't risk firing at them on the water as the dog was too close to them. I have gone swimming in winter to retrieve geese, diver and mallard but sadly it does happen sometimes that they escape wounded.

You're right though there is a big difference between 50 pigeon, a box of duck and the odd lost bird. That's very bad. Pigeon is gorgeous and if someone said here's 50 pigeons I would take the breasts off all of them and bang them into the freezer. A chicken breast is over a euro these days and 50x2 is like being given 100 quid worth of meat.

Anyway if the weather tomorrow is anything like today then we will be on for a great day out. Nearly tempted to bring the camera instead of the shotgun. Think I might put the gun away if I get one and take pics for the rest of the day.

Sorry Veg i should have been more informative, what i meant by dead mallards was loads of them. I couldnt bekleive it.

i do agree though that some birds are unretreivable and there is nothing as bad. I lost a mallard myself this year and spent the whole night looking for it. even came back the nest day to look aswell! Hopefully i wont lose another again.

Vegeta

stevoman wrote: »

Sorry Veg i should have been more informative, what i meant by dead mallards was loads of them. I couldnt bekleive it.

Cant understand it myself Steve, makes no sense to me. There are some lads like that (know a few too :mad:) you'd think they'd just stick to clays or something.

I am looking forward to tomorrow as I would love to get some pheasant to try that game pie recipe nyom nyom nyom.

I have some duck saved up for it and wouldn't mind a pigeon and some pheasant in it too. Woodcock maybe if I can get one.

stevoman

Vegeta wrote: »

Cant understand it myself Steve, makes no sense to me. There are some lads like that (know a few too :mad:) you'd think they'd just stick to clays or something.

I am looking forward to tomorrow as I would love to get some pheasant to try that game pie recipe nyom nyom nyom.

I have some duck saved up for it and wouldn't mind a pigeon and some pheasant in it too. Woodcock maybe if I can get one.

ah lovely mixed bag dinner would be great alright! do you skin or pluck your birds? if you pluck like i do try smear some of that new regga regga sauce over the skin and leave them to roast in tin foil as normal. its puts a real spicey tangy taste to the meat and itsgorgeous. i was treated to a pair on hens from a friend who returned from a shoot in the uk last weekend and that how they were cooked and it tasty as hell!

whitser

have to say i've never heard of lads dumping roosters or ducks like that. surely no gun club wants lads like that in their club?

stevoman

whitser wrote: »

have to say i've never heard of lads dumping roosters or ducks like that. surely no gun club wants lads like that in their club?

a lot of lads are not in clubs thats the problem. we have 75 members in our club and yet you have the same non mebers coming onto gun club land and shooting it every year. its ridiculous. i jus get my membership for insurance now at this stage and to prove to others i have a keen interest.

meathstevie

Vegeta, unfortunatly not all kills are retrievable and it's a source of frustration to me. Especially when shooting pigeon over grain crops that can be a real bummer. You can't locate the pigeon and you can't send in the dog unless you want to seriously rub the farmer up the wrong way.

It's part and parcel of hunting that not everything goes right all the time and you have to accept that so to make things clear I was talking about dumping otherwise perfectly usable carcasses because of laziness, ignorance and disrespectfullness.

Vegeta

meathstevie wrote: »

Vegeta, unfortunatly not all kills are retrievable and it's a source of frustration to me. Especially when shooting pigeon over grain crops that can be a real bummer. You can't locate the pigeon and you can't send in the dog unless you want to seriously rub the farmer up the wrong way.

It's part and parcel of hunting that not everything goes right all the time and you have to accept that so to make things clear I was talking about dumping otherwise perfectly usable carcasses because of laziness, ignorance and disrespectfullness.

yup and I agree that its a disgusting thing to do