Upgraded to eircom 7mb, but....

Stuxnet

i upgraded to 7mb from 3mb, the changeover happened today, it was great at first, and i tested out my new speed downloading a torrent, at max i was getting nearly 825kb/s, i had looked at my routers page and the new line speed was listed 7100/384 kbps,
but this evening they seem to have downgraded me to 6 mb, i have verified this with speedtest and the new speed listed in router page is 5920/384 kbps

why would they do this, 7mb is what they offer to sell, 7mb i received, but now they seem to have pulled back on 1 mb, there is no 6mb tarrif for sale,

whats going on, where do i stand, who do i ring, if I'm paying for 7 i expect to be fairly close, but 6 is far from, i know my line can handle at least 8mb

MunsterCycling

Its contention, welcome to the wonderful world of eircom: ADSL only


MC

Posted from a contention free Smart link...

lmimmfn

consider yourself lucky , i get 4Mb on my 7.6Mb lol, maybe try resynching your router( mine will end up between 3700 and 4096 forcing a resynch )? post your SNR and attenuation

PogMoThoin

This speed Your syncing is probably what your line is really capable of. Remember its UP TO 7.6Mbit. Whats Your SNR and Attenuation, You'll find them under Dsl stats?

In reality, 7.6Mbit is anywhere up to 6-6.5Mbit by the time is gets from the exchange to your house, thats the overheads of the copper. Also at busy times (6-10 in evenings) You'll get slowdowns as contention comes in2 play.

The_Jabberwock

Count yourself lucky you've any speed at all... I'm in student accommodation in Cork, broadband was advertised, but I've never seen it go above 60 KB/s... That's, like, half an inch of band. Probably less. Hardly what I'd call "broad", anyway. Rrr.

MunsterCycling

The_Jabberwock wrote: »

Count yourself lucky you've any speed at all... I'm in student accommodation in Cork, broadband was advertised, but I've never seen it go above 60 KB/s... That's, like, half an inch of band. Probably less. Hardly what I'd call "broad", anyway. Rrr.

Where you getting that connection from?

The_Jabberwock

MunsterCycling wrote: »

Where you getting that connection from?

It's an Eircom connection, but I've to log into a hotspot every time I need to use it. If you go to speedtest.net, you get 300+ KB/s, but I've still never seen a download above 60. Also, no connections can be made through utorrent, or azureus, so I've resorting to the shady business of warez downloading. Grawr? Yes. Throttled? Very yes.

MunsterCycling

Then the problem is the hotspots connection, why using a hotspot?

The_Jabberwock

MunsterCycling wrote: »

Then the problem is the hotspots connection, why using a hotspot?

Because it's the only available connection. Student accom. = a big block of apartments, out of range of other, less wire-y options, plug into the lan, try to connect to something and you're presented with the Mikrotik Hotspot login page. It's lame.

MunsterCycling

Ah yes Victoria Cross no doubt?

MC

Stuxnet

yayyyy they have put me back to 7.1 mb
happy again getting full speed and good pings

Gonzo

BOBBY wrote: »

yayyyy they have put me back to 7.1 mb
happy again getting full speed and good pings

what sorta pings are you getting?

smellslikeshoes

MunsterCycling wrote: »

Its contention, welcome to the wonderful world of eircom: ADSL only


MC

Posted from a contention free Smart link...

Thats wrong in this case. The OP's problem hasn't anything to do with contention. Contention would be if the line was connecting at 7.6mbit and he was only getting say 4mbit to his computer. He is receiving what his router is connected at.

BOBBY wrote: »

yayyyy they have put me back to 7.1 mb
happy again getting full speed and good pings

You were and are receiving 7.6mbit but your line just can't handle it all so its connecting at the best it can at the time. You could have poor wiring in your house, electronics effecting it or it could be the case that your line is simply too long/poor.

Stuxnet

hmmm



pings a little higher today,

this is the new 7package from eircom
i was 3 mb pings were 45ms,

if it stays like this i'll be happy enough, i do play cod4 on ps3 alot, gameplay seems fine, and my torrents are fast enough, i'm happy with the upgrade.....for now !!

anthony4335

I have recently just got broadband in the house , which is great. I have a few questions that I would like to ask.
I check the connected speed every now and then, and it goes up and down all the time, such as today I have 3072 download, on other occasions I have seen 1700 ,2600 and even 800. Is this related to the contention. As in the more users on the line the slower the connection speed?
Also if I were to change my router/modem to get the best out of the connection, what would be the best one out there? Mainly trying to keep the speeds up.
Just in case I get asked the line att in around 57dB for the DL connection and the SNR varies ,anything from 14dB to 6dB , every now and then the connection drops but not too often ,at least not enough to annoy me. Considering that I came from 3 "broadband".

Tyler MacDurden

Moments away from ordering the 7MB package here, and I'm just wondering if Eircom actually enforce the download allowance? Word on the street is that they've not bothered doing so previously. Unless of course you're dowloading Hi-Def pornography in industrial quantities one presumes...;)

Nonoperational

Eircom didn't take away 1Mb from you. DSL overheads, varying SNR margins, contention ect make ADSL (especially eircoms maxed out 7.6Mb service) pretty variable. Relax your getting good speeds there. 6Mb + is excellent.

hutchy001

BOBBY wrote: »

hmmm



pings a little higher today,

this is the new 7package from eircom
i was 3 mb pings were 45ms,

if it stays like this i'll be happy enough, i do play cod4 on ps3 alot, gameplay seems fine, and my torrents are fast enough, i'm happy with the upgrade.....for now !!

762.3kB is only 5.9mb, nowhere near 7mb. there is a big difference between bits and bytes. 762.3kB is 0.74 megabytes (mB), megabits being (mb). if im wrong please correct me.

hutchy001

Bits and Bytes both measure amounts of data. However, they are typically used in two different contexts.

Bits, kilobits (Kbps), and megabits (Mbps) are most often used to measure data transfer speeds. This may refer to how fast you are downloading a file, or how fast your Internet connection is. For example, if you are downloading a file on cable modem, your download speed might be 240Kbps. This is much faster than a dial-up modem, which maxes out at 56Kbps.

Bytes, on the other hand, are used to measure data storage. For example, a CD holds 700MB (megabytes) of data and a hard drive may hold 250GB (gigabytes). The other important difference is that bytes contain eight bits of data. Therefore, a 240Kbps download is only transferring 30KB of data per second. However, kilobytes per second is not as commonly used as kilobits per second for measuring data transfer speeds. After all, using kilobits per second (Kbps) makes your connection sound eight times faster!

It is important to know that bytes are abbreviated with a capital B, where as bits use a lowercase b. Therefore, Mbps is megabits per second, and MBps is megabytes per second. So 8Mbps is equal to 1MBps. Someone should tell the people at Eircom this, as they wont upgrade my connection. they say my line will only take 1MB (which is true) but 1MB is equal to 8Mb, so why cant i get 7Mb.

Hellrazer

Ive the same problem with Eircom.Got the 7.6mb package last week but my modem is only synching at 6144/384.
Down load speeds are at best 3766 kb/s from speedtest.

Max download from a heanet iso is only 385Kbps.
On the previous 3meg package max downloads of the same file were 305-315 Kbps.

Does this sound like crap speeds from a 7.6 package??

Spent the last week on to tech support and they tell me my line is suitable for 10+mb broadband.

Pulling my hair out at this stage.

slade_x

PogMoThoin wrote: »

overheads of the copper.

overhead relates to data transmission not the medium which transmits it. i think you mean attenuation due to lower maintained/ low quality higher resistant copper wiring (which is basically 90% of what we have in ireland). certain protocols and data packets have lower overheads than others.