Jazz - a load of spazz.

Glowing · 19-10-2008 8:51pm #1

I HATE Jazz.

I don't like all music genre's and styles, but I can certainly appreciate them, and understand why other's might enjoy listening to them.

But not Jazz. It drives me crazy! I just CAN'T understand how anyone can enjoy listening to unstructured, melody-less drivel. It actually makes me angry. I'm specifically referring to the instrumental jazz, the stuff that sounds like lift music gone bad. Bloody awful stuff.

Am I the only one?

JC 2K3 · 19-10-2008 8:55pm

You're not open minded etc.

Voodu Child · 19-10-2008 8:58pm

I don't know about jazz, but I heard yore ma loves jizz..

Glowing · 19-10-2008 8:59pm

JC 2K3 wrote: »

You're not open minded etc.

Believe me - I've tried to listen to it objectively, but it still made me feel ill.

Wurly · 19-10-2008 8:59pm

Em....:rolleyes:

Who really cares?

My opinion? Jazz is great. Anything goes. No structure. I like it.

*goes back to sleep*

Tha Gopher · 19-10-2008 8:59pm

tbh most music that isnt decent dance, trad or pre 2000 hip hop is not worth listening to.

*awaits abuse*

Alter-Ego · 19-10-2008 9:01pm

Scibidy boo bah!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIe6fOAtqok

mike65 · 19-10-2008 9:05pm

May I sugest the OP listens to A kind of Blue and then STFU! :mad:

Mike

arse..biscuits · 19-10-2008 9:08pm

Great musicians, don't like it myself tho

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 9:11pm

Jazz is right. Your opinion is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE_HRhQRiMw

taidghbaby · 19-10-2008 9:15pm

it seems to me to be an acquired taste.......like olives or 2 girls 1 cup

pablomakaveli · 19-10-2008 9:17pm

Tha Gopher wrote: »

tbh most music that isnt decent dance, trad or pre 2000 hip hop is not worth listening to.

*awaits abuse*

that should probably be post 2000 hip hop. if i see another metal mouthed pimp rapper going on about de club im gonna bust a testicle.

Mossy Monk · 19-10-2008 9:17pm

Jazz music is fantastic especially when watching it all being played in front of you. There is also the following

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TebUMhJAKSM

mike65 · 19-10-2008 9:18pm

Okay I'm wrong and the OP is bang on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsQYzpOHpik

Mike

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 9:20pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggL_2hk9DyI

mike65 · 19-10-2008 9:24pm

Yeah but there's no sax solo Karl!

Mike

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 9:26pm

mike65 wrote: »

Yeah but there's no sax solo Karl!

Mike

You can take your sax solo and stick it! :pac:

Bass solo!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVI5GhtllYM

Dave! · 19-10-2008 10:04pm

It varies, but I find alot of instrumental jazz to be fairly relaxing.

stovelid · 19-10-2008 10:07pm

OP reported for racism.

mike65 · 19-10-2008 10:08pm

Something for Dave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vewWf8HDKF0

Mike

cornbb · 19-10-2008 10:14pm

Jazz can be an acquired taste, but perhaps thats what makes it so f*cking awesome - you'll fall in love with it one day and you'll never figure out why. I like lots of music, jazz is perhaps the only genre I like because I don't understand a thing about it but it still captivates me.

Another gratuitous jazz vid. Can't believe there hasn't been any bebop posted yet! And where the hell is Daddio and the crew from the jazz forum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTfBpKzu6XA

pickarooney · 19-10-2008 10:18pm

Can't stand that crack. Possibly worse than C&W.

Setun · 19-10-2008 10:37pm

Glowing wrote: »

I HATE Jazz.

I don't like all music genre's and styles, but I can certainly appreciate them, and understand why other's might enjoy listening to them.

But not Jazz. It drives me crazy! I just CAN'T understand how anyone can enjoy listening to unstructured, melody-less drivel. It actually makes me angry. I'm specifically referring to the instrumental jazz, the stuff that sounds like lift music gone bad. Bloody awful stuff.

Right. Ok...

I just CAN'T understand how anyone can enjoy listening to unstructured

Jazz has actually quite a "standard" structure actually - 32 bar song forms, 12 bar blues, and many other structures that most probably have made their way into the types of music you listen to every day.

melody-less drivel

Explain the lack of melody please? Jazz has a melodic line, almost to the point of where jazz IS the melodic line. What are you hearing when a sax player is improvising?! Have you ever listened to jazz? Or are you basing this melody-less idea on pop culture representations of 'difficult' jazz music?

I'm specifically referring to the instrumental jazz

Well that's narrowed it down :rolleyes: From your argument, you've probably never really given it a proper listen. If you listen music like you claim you do, you should be able to hear its influence on most music since Jazz's inception.

cornbb wrote:

And where the hell is Daddio and the crew from the jazz forum?

I'm here now, just back from a fantastic Bobo Stenson gig actually. Apart from the complete lack of melody and that.

Jeez, I'm tired and I stumble across this thread. Christ on a bike. :mad:

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 10:50pm

Right on Daddio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5vlT01JNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYf-S9aN0yY

Agamemnon · 19-10-2008 11:08pm

Glowing wrote: »

I HATE Jazz.

I don't like all music genre's and styles, but I can certainly appreciate them, and understand why other's might enjoy listening to them.

But not Jazz. It drives me crazy! I just CAN'T understand how anyone can enjoy listening to unstructured, melody-less drivel. It actually makes me angry. I'm specifically referring to the instrumental jazz, the stuff that sounds like lift music gone bad. Bloody awful stuff.

Am I the only one?

It would be brilliant if your real name is Johnny.

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 11:08pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew0Hs7-hX6E

RIP Esbjorn Svensson.

cornbb · 19-10-2008 11:15pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEzsPGHsi90

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 11:22pm

G'wan Django.

I've always felt that Scatman John was deeply underated tbh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLlW_tvFaQ

RIP. He died way too young.

emeraldstar · 19-10-2008 11:23pm

Yep, I feel the same OP. I find it irritating. Then it gets more irritating. Then the longer it goes on I get more and more irritated, until finally it has me feeling really stressed out.

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 11:40pm

emeraldstar wrote: »

Yep, I feel the same OP. I find it irritating. Then it gets more irritating. Then the longer it goes on I get more and more irritated, until finally it has me feeling really stressed out.

You fear jazz!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwQ_zeRwEs

Herbie Hancock and Pat Metheny rule you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg

Go back to your electro nonsense! :pac:

syklops · 19-10-2008 11:41pm

Have you heard rhapsody in blue?

Karl Hungus · 19-10-2008 11:46pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XYkcNmdQu0

Dord · 19-10-2008 11:58pm

Yeah? Well Jazz hates you too! :mad:

Here's some more jazz just to annoy you and the other haters! :mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7rt6XDSLcY

:cool:

nyarlothothep · 20-10-2008 12:06am

Jazz is great, its that boring verse chorus verse chorus populist drivel that sucks

Karl Hungus · 20-10-2008 12:10am

Right on brother Dord!

You know something that unmusical people hate nearly as much as Jazz? Heavy Metal. They think it's all cantankerous noise and ear-bleeding nonsense. Could you imagine what these people would think if the abstract melodies and experimentation of Jazz ever fused with the hard edged sound of Metal? I bet they pray it never happens. Oh wait, it has!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ickf9ZcSN8c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTMuROnt_Ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B1OKdpTJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5YEqmIIdj8

Bwahahaha!

Sarky · 20-10-2008 12:10am

Jazz is awesome. It was good enough for Fallout, you godless heathens, so it's damn well good enough for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA

Seriously, without jazz there'd be no rock'n'roll, no metal, no SOUL. Jazz is the daddy. Or possibly the daddio, I'm not too well up on the lingo.

Dudess · 20-10-2008 12:18am

Jazz is awesome. Can't wait for next weekend...

http://www.corkjazzfestival.com/

Dord · 20-10-2008 12:18am

Nice one Karl!

Are you headin' to see Cynic next month in Vicar St?

Karl Hungus · 20-10-2008 12:20am

Dord wrote: »

Nice one Karl!

Are you headin' to see Cynic next month in Vicar St?

On my life I am! :eek:

No way in hell would I miss that.

Karl Hungus · 20-10-2008 12:24am

Dudess wrote: »

Jazz is awesome. Can't wait for next weekend...

http://www.corkjazzfestival.com/

Sweet. Chick Corea playing with John McLaughlin, that should be spectacular.

Here he is playing with one of my favourite Jazz artists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2m4Oy9TWmo

tony1kenobi · 20-10-2008 1:38am

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Right on brother Dord!

You know something that unmusical people hate nearly as much as Jazz? Heavy Metal. They think it's all cantankerous noise and ear-bleeding nonsense. Could you imagine what these people would think if the abstract melodies and experimentation of Jazz ever fused with the hard edged sound of Metal? I bet they pray it never happens. Oh wait, it has!

But this is kind of specialist and for musos........appreciation or disdain for a genre of music is ones own personal preference.....my missus loves Tony Bennett......I still don't know why..........but I brought her to see him a few years ago.....it was what you would expect from a crooner in his 80s...however.....the drummer did a solo......which was made up of 2 snares and a cymbal of sorts ( I am no drummer ) and it was the single most unbelievable display of musicianship I have ever seen.....and I have seen great drummers, guitarists, bassists and kazooists........but none came close......probably because this young dude was only the drummer in Tony Bennetts' touring band.......but he scored the cup winner/ blew a load on Traci Lords face/ sold that ****hole in Glengarry Glenross and won me the euromillions all in ten minutes.......if I could have licked his balls I would have.

The point is, I appreciated what he did, even if it wasn't my kind of music........which I think might be a big part of the point of Jazz.......it's appreciation as much as enjoyment.........

...or maybe not.......I obtain the right to disclaim writing everything I just wrote.

Sarky · 20-10-2008 1:44am

One of my new heroes, Louis Stewart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvAFap0LQcE

monkeyfudge · 20-10-2008 1:44am

Dudess wrote: »

Jazz is awesome. Can't wait for next weekend...

http://www.corkjazzfestival.com/

I've always been amused by the fact the Cork Jazz festival is sponsored by Guinness while the Howth Jazz festival is sponsored by Murphys.

Karl Hungus · 20-10-2008 1:54am

You know something else I love about Jazz? For some reason, cute Japanese girls are really, really good at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnlRgYnt5sU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mK2fv7y9YY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMrODjusHlI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ki1aDusuk

Xavi6 · 20-10-2008 2:09am

Wouldn't be a fan myself

tony1kenobi · 20-10-2008 2:17am

Karl Hungus wrote: »

You know something else I love about Jazz? For some reason, cute Japanese girls are really, really good at it

If you do a quick search of the net you'll find that cute Japanese girls are really good at all sorts that might interest you.

latenia · 20-10-2008 2:22am

tony1kenobi wrote: »

If you do a quick search of the net you'll find that cute Japanese girls are really good at all sorts that might interest you.

From what I gather that's Mr Hungus' main hobby. For the jazz haters out there I prescribe a fat doob and a copy of Mingus at Antibes which is precisely what I'm doing right now.

tony1kenobi · 20-10-2008 2:28am

latenia wrote: »

From what I gather that's Mr Hungus' main hobby. For the jazz haters out there I prescribe a fat doob and a copy of Mingus at Antibes which is precisely what I'm doing right now.

What though for those of us ( the few I am sure ) that just don't rock the gange ( it just does not agree with my constitution...I tried it as much as I could, and by the Lord I swear I inhaled)............what for us that just don't listen to jazz??.....I get it.....I really get it.....I just don't see it as something to listen to for pleasure......I think that guy in the commitments said jazz is musical ****...or something like that.....I would kind of see jazz that way......if I am listening to it for a purpose or a very definite ending....I will listen....but if it is just to get my rocks off......I'll take some of those cute Japanese girls and some nine inch nails..............( for clarity I am not going at a bunch of Japanese chicks with home DIY products.....that is for a different meeting).

xOxSinéadxOx · 20-10-2008 2:32am

how could anyone hate jazz?

Karl Hungus · 20-10-2008 2:41am

tony1kenobi wrote: »

I think that guy in the commitments said jazz is musical ****...or something like that.....I would kind of see jazz that way......

You see, that's the problem right there. People tend to dismiss anything that's more complex than they're used to as "****", and that's a real horrible insulting thing to call music, something that people pour their heart and souls into.

If you want to see musical ****, then watch this and skip in about 3 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynUZOJc8QI

That's ****.

Jazz on the other hand, the musicians involved are highly creative, amazing composers, and play with incredible feeling. To call it **** is just highly insulting and ignorant. There's nothing **** about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6JlE_xRRes

tony1kenobi · 20-10-2008 2:49am

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Jazz on the other hand, the musicians involved are highly creative, amazing composers, and play with incredible feeling.

I qualified my appreciation in a previous post. I don't dislike jazz....in fact if I were to think about musical genres I flat out don't like...I would come up with nil....all music has its merits......even the most sickly sweet x factor over produced christmas number one was written by someone who had a basis for the song.........Jazz is probably the least (dunno how to do itallics...or how to spell it)....commercial form of music as it is produced, by the artists, for the love and passion of their "art"......an accomplished jazz musician could, possibly, write christmas hits on a dime.....but opt not to......I commend it.....I think, and I may be wrong because it is late, that I stated my own personal preference....and that is that jazz would not be the first thing to jump out of my collection if I want something to kick back to........but that isn't to say that the jazz is not in my collection.........because there is always a time that calls for schmoove......and I prefer to be ready.

Jazz - a load of spazz.

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