Rock Band is not just a game..

120_Minutes

...it also (if you have enough time on your hands) helps isolate tracks.

Link

wow, old metallica is kinda sloppy (not james)

nyarlothothep

Checked out Cliffs bass playing, not 100% shredperfect but its good enough to fit into the mix. In terms of recording your going to have that pressure not to make any mistakes whatsoever which is kinda self sabotaging. For a recording its fairly decent and in the mix the errors don't show.

Dord

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Checked out Cliffs bass playing, not 100% shredperfect but its good enough to fit into the mix. In terms of recording your going to have that pressure not to make any mistakes whatsoever which is kinda self sabotaging. For a recording its fairly decent and in the mix the errors don't show.

It doesn't sound like Cliff's playing to me.

SouperComputer

Thats pretty class, burned 1.5hrs last night listening to those. Funny how "non-metal" lars' drums sound on MOP and RTL. Also, his drum hits generally sound very soft. The bassline from RTL was a great treat, some crazy funky stuff going on and a little bit of waa for good measure.

Other observations:

Amazing how $hit the bass sounds on by itself but works well in the mix, when its there haha.
Man did those guitar amps get a death on MOP RTL and AJAFA or what?

Stev_o

Would be nice then if they could manage to isolate Jasons bass track on dyers eve and compare how he's playing to Cliff's playing Battery.

120_Minutes

Stev_o wrote: »

Would be nice then if they could manage to isolate Jasons bass track on dyers eve and compare how he's playing to Cliff's playing Battery.

my bet is its very much like cliffs, is so far as hes not following the guitar exactly


@dord: i know what you mean, i thought that at first too. whats this dirty sloppy bassline? thats not cliff!!! but i ripped the drums and bass and put em into cubase....they synch perfectly...and some of the things hes playing are what i remember from the offical tab.

the thing is, like most metallica albums, the drums were recorded and edited first, the everyone else played to that. cliff sounds sloppy on his own, but perfect with lars....the old adage is true: as long as we're all out of time together no one will notice!!

Patricide

120_Minutes wrote: »

my bet is its very much like cliffs, is so far as hes not following the guitar exactly


@dord: i know what you mean, i thought that at first too. whats this dirty sloppy bassline? thats not cliff!!! but i ripped the drums and bass and put em into cubase....they synch perfectly...and some of the things hes playing are what i remember from the offical tab.

the thing is, like most metallica albums, the drums were recorded and edited first, the everyone else played to that. cliff sounds sloppy on his own, but perfect with lars....the old adage is true: as long as we're all out of time together no one will notice!!

Id say it is cliffs, a lot of people romantisise him in my opinion, sure he was a great bass player and a creator of music but i dunno how hed fare technically against Rob or Jason. Might be a very unpopular thing to say but its probrably true.

Another thing you have to remember is that metallica didnt have the amont of time that people have in the studios these days or any of the fancy "studio magic" to fix mistakes in playing. I cant remember how long MOP was recorded over but i think it was over a short period of time meaning that they had to get everything down as quickly as possible or take the best effort.

120_Minutes

September 1985–December 1985 at Sweet Silence Studios in Copenhagen, Denmark

hmmm, a decent amount of time i think.

Patricide

Was that time for writing and recording and mastering, or just laying down the tracks?

SouperComputer

well, I had fun jamming RTL with Cliff. A+

120_Minutes

Patricide wrote: »

Was that time for writing and recording and mastering, or just laying down the tracks?

at a guess i'd say recording and mixing only. but i could be wrong.

120_Minutes

heres my attempt at a bit of "justice for jason"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Suqguox3dk

Patricide

120_Minutes wrote: »

heres my attempt at a bit of "justice for jason"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Suqguox3dk

Sounds ace, why o lord why wont they remix that album with more o jasons bass.