Looking to buy judogi

Boston

Hi, I'm looking to buy a Judo uniform but there seems to be a wide range of options. Could anyone recommend a decent site and uniform. I'm currently looking at this one.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Someone posted here the other day that they got a Judogi in JJB sports for €10.

Now if their still available there at that price I'd grab one.

Their a good suit for training, esp. for the beginner as their light and have a soft collar.

If you want something which will last you years I can get you the lady's number who I've bought from. I only just bought another Gi last week, a Mizuno for my son (size 175) for €125-

But personally I'd recommend you go for a Norris, a little more expensive but it will litterly last you a life time.

Boston

Looking at the sizes available on jjb, they wouldn't fit my left leg. Have you a link to a site selling norris suits. Google keeps coming back with chuck norris links. I've no problem spending €125 on something that will last, I just don't want to spend that type of money on my first suit since what I want will probably change over the next few months.

Nothingcompares

Can you see this link?

http://www.danrho.de/danrho/shop_artikeldetails.asp?kid=1434%2C1438&opt=252&ang1=&agnr=229020&menge=1&referer=shop_artikeldetails.asp&kategorie=1438

190 is around 40 euro there is a fella in dublin that stocks them I'll pm you his number he has number of other suits too you can investigate.

I recommend you get a cheap suit first, and when you're committed to the sport investigate getting a "better" or more expensive one. If you do judo more than twice a week you'll need to have 2 suits anyway.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Can you see this link?

http://www.danrho.de/danrho/shop_artikeldetails.asp?kid=1434%2C1438&opt=252&ang1=&agnr=229020&menge=1&referer=shop_artikeldetails.asp&kategorie=1438

190 is around 40 euro there is a fella in dublin that stocks them I'll pm you his number he has number of other suits too you can investigate.

I recommend you get a cheap suit first, and when you're committed to the sport investigate getting a "better" or more expensive one. If you do judo more than twice a week you'll need to have 2 suits anyway.

Yup Boston - what Kev says.

It will be awhile before you really need to go to the expense of an expensive suit. But when you get to that stage you'll appricate the feel a better suit gives.

Boston

Cool thanks, I'll give him a ring tomorrow morning. Where about is he located?

Nothingcompares

Garristown (near ashbourne) but usually zipping around dublin during the week. Ive met him beside trinity on a tuesday night for example to get a suit.

in fact, its around this time the people in tcd judo usually start getting suits. you should organise who wants them and get them all together.

Boston

Their the ones I've actually started training with. Problem is, I don't know what size would exactly fit.

Nothingcompares

Id go with the 190 you're around 6'1" yeah? alan will probably know to look at you too. if you get one too short he'll swap it for you no problem.

Boston

6ft 2.5' bare foot. Most of that is in the legs though, sure I'll give him a ring anyway and we'll short something out. Thanks again.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

6ft 2.5' bare foot. Most of that is in the legs though, sure I'll give him a ring anyway and we'll short something out. Thanks again.

Alan will know from experience what size suit you'll need.

When you get it it might feel huge, but two things to bere in mind.

Most suits will shrink in the wash, in the pre-shrunk suits and most expensive one too. Plus to a beginner wearing a Judogi feels a little strange.

Oh, and welcome to Judo

Boston

Ah, I did it four to five years ago in school for a short while and enjoyed it, but life got in the way.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

Ah, I did it four to five years ago in school for a short while and enjoyed it, but life got in the way.

Ah cool, welcome back then!.

Btw, I've just finished reading THE PYJAMA GAME (available from Borders bookstore), its well worth a read.

This is one which you'll buy, read and read again. Defo a keeper in this one.

Boston

Rang yer man and I'll be heading out tomorrow to ashbourne to get shorted out. thanks again.

That book looks interested, but could you recommend something for a beginner with lots of pictures describing movements. If you've ever read starting strength, something similar.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

Rang yer man and I'll be heading out tomorrow to ashbourne to get shorted out. thanks again.

That book looks interested, but could you recommend something for a beginner with lots of pictures describing movements. If you've ever read starting strength, something similar.

Get KODOKAN JUDO its not very well illustrated however it gave me a lot of understanding into the importance of breaking balance.

And I find Youtube great for idea's before training.

But I'd say find your footing in the club first, then move around to other clubs and pick up idea's from other lads otherwise you can become stale and drawn into a sense of feeling that your club is the best and you don't need anyone else. Until you compete for the first time, that can really mess up your head.

Boston

Just back from ashbourne, he sorted me out with a 200.

@Mairt.
Cool, I'll order that from amazon.

There seems to be yearly college intervarsity competitions and something was mentioned about novices fighting each other. I take your point about traveling around, as what I've been doing seems very different then what I did in school, we'll see how it works out time wise.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

Just back from ashbourne, he sorted me out with a 200.

@Mairt.
Cool, I'll order that from amazon.

There seems to be yearly college intervarsity competitions and something was mentioned about novices fighting each other. I take your point about traveling around, as what I've been doing seems very different then what I did in school, we'll see how it works out time wise.

Jeeze you must be a big lad :eek:

If you think its too big, give it a hot wash. They shrink like hell.

Re. the book. Its very basic, its wrote by Jigoro Kano the founder of Judo and just for that its worth having I guess.

Judomad (a member here) is a wealth of Judo information.

Boston

Well I ain't small at 110Kg. It's a bit big but if it strinks by 5 - 10 % it will be just right. I think he called it right tbh.

I also picked up the A-Z of judo book from him. Its the one these photos are taken from. Seems quiet good from glancing through it.

Nothingcompares

good stuff enjoy the training

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

Well I ain't small at 110Kg. It's a bit big but if it strinks by 5 - 10 % it will be just right. I think he called it right tbh.

I also picked up the A-Z of judo book from him. Its the one these photos are taken from. Seems quiet good from glancing through it.

Yup, it'll shrink.

Btw, your 10kg lighter than me

Nothingcompares

lol don't do any of this mad stuff in training!

Boston

That move and several others are listed under "Illegal, never do this in training or competition" in the book. I Guess the idea is to say "Heres this move, you can't do it because of A B and C". Its good because my natural instinct would be to put pressure on a joint in away that seems not to be allowed.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston wrote: »

That move and several others are listed under "Illegal, never do this in training or competition" in the book. I Guess the idea is to say "Heres this move, you can't do it because of A B and C". Its good because my natural instinct would be to put pressure on a joint in away that seems not to be allowed.

If you get the Kodokan Judo book you'll see all that old Judo stuff in the back too.

Originally if memory serves me correctly (I gave my copy of the Kodokan book to someone to read and never got it back) Judo had some strikes, knife defence etc but it quickly evolved into a sport and all that stuff was taken out.

Come to think of it, I'm off to order the bloody book again :pac:

Judomad

Boston, where will you be training as a matter of interest?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Judomad wrote: »

Boston, where will you be training as a matter of interest?

Triner's, he's posh

Judomad

Mairt wrote: »

Triner's, he's posh

who's coaching there nowadays?

John Deenihan

cletus

Jiu-Jutsu or Jiudo: Selection from Kodokwan Method:

http://www.lulu.com/content/1371282

This PDF was originally free, its now €0.81 to download, I found it quite interesting, thought some of you judo heads would too

Boston

Judomad wrote: »

Boston, where will you be training as a matter of interest?

Currently trinity. Plan is two nights a week with a possibly Saturday whenever I'm about.

Mairt wrote: »

Triner's, he's posh

I'm many things but posh has never been one of them.

beGood

Mairt wrote: »

Judo had some strikes, knife defence etc but it quickly evolved into a sport and all that stuff was taken out.

Judo still has strikes (Atemi-waza) but they are illegal in randori and shiai. They have only ever been practiced in kata and they continue to be practiced if you can find a teacher (e.g. Kime-no-Kata), but many Judoka have never seen them due to the emphasis on competition Judo. The only kata I have seen performed in Ireland were Nage-no-Kata and Katame-no-Kata. I saw Kime-no-Kata performed for the first time at l'institut du Judo in Paris.

"Kodokan Judo" is a definitely the first book I would recommend. It's a great reference manual and even when you've been practicing for years and have read the book many times you can still find useful information there.

Nothingcompares

If you're wise you will ignore all those striking katas. In fact I don't put any merit in kata training. I've seen kime-no-kata and it's ridiculous.

beGood

Nothingcompares wrote: »

If you're wise you will ignore all those striking katas. In fact I don't put any merit in kata training. I've seen kime-no-kata and it's ridiculous.

Seeing something and understanding it can be two different things. This is, unfortunately, a typical attitude to kata which renders it useless as a tool for learning something about Judo.

I spent an hour this evening practising Ju-no-Kata and I can thoroughly recommend kata as a training tool along with nage-komi and randori.

Nothingcompares

beGood wrote: »

Seeing something and understanding it can be two different things. This is, unfortunately, a typical attitude to kata which renders it useless as a tool for learning something about Judo.

I spent an hour this evening practising Ju-no-Kata and I can thoroughly recommend kata as a training tool along with nage-komi and randori.

Because this isn't a thread about the merits of kata training and I can tell by the tone of your reply that your mind is as made up on this subject as mine is there isn't any point arguing .

But what I will say that common sense clearly shows that training in Kata WILL NOT make you a better judo player. There are no secrets in its subtleties . You might get a kick out of it but it has no place in functional training.

beGood

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Because this isn't a thread about the merits of kata training...

Agreed. So rather than posting strong opinions that you know will provoke a response and then calling off topic to withdraw from any follow-up discussion, I suggest you start such a thread.

Back to gis, Boston: you will never need a blue gi so no need to waste money on one. They are only mandatory at international competitions (which a small fraction of Judoka have the ability to compete at) and on the down side there exists many dojos in the world that forbid them for training. Another plus is you will never look like a clown

arybvtcw0eolkf

Boston I was thinking about you and Judo last night.

Like me your a big lad, so passing on some advice from personal experience. Start using knee support and don't wait until their sore.

Judo can be pretty tough on your joints.

Begood, welcome to the forum.

beGood

Mairt wrote: »

Begood, welcome to the forum.

Thanks

Boston

beGood wrote: »

Back to gis, Boston: you will never need a blue gi so no need to waste money on one. They are only mandatory at international competitions (which a small fraction of Judoka have the ability to compete at) and on the down side there exists many dojos in the world that forbid them for training. Another plus is you will never look like a clown

I was wondering what the difference between the blue and white was. Thanks.

Mairt wrote: »

Boston I was thinking about you and Judo last night.

Like me your a big lad, so passing on some advice from personal experience. Start using knee support and don't wait until their sore.

Judo can be pretty tough on your joints.

Thanks. I've found my biggest problem at the moment though is that I'm tensing up now an again resulting in minor injuries. I'll look into getting some knee support.

On another note, does any have experience with piercings and judo? I've two nipple piercings and while their covered and so far haven't been a problem, I worry about.

Pingu

Mairt wrote: »

....Like me your a big lad, so passing on some advice from personal experience. Start using knee support and don't wait until their sore.....

Out of Interest why would you say big guys are more prone to knee injuries?

Also wearing supports can potentially lead to tendon injuries I'd imagine due to the thermo-regulation problems associated with neoprene supports.

beGood

Boston wrote: »

On another note, does any have experience with piercings and judo? I've two nipple piercings and while their covered and so far haven't been a problem, I worry about.

I have no experience with this but in shiai (competition) the International Judo Federation rules list

To wear a hard or metallic object (covered or not).

as a Hansoku-make offence (which means disqualification). I believe I read somewhere that it was downgraded to a shido (lesser penalty) and an order to remove the offending object but the IJF site doesn't support this. I may have read it in a list of experimental rules.

As for training, you should ask the coach what he/she thinks. I would say even with them covered there is a risk to you, if the covers come off and they get stuck in a gi then you will be in a lot of pain! There is also a risk to your partner, especially in ne-waza, of being scratched and cut if the covers come off.

So I would say if you can take them out then do it.

Boston

Thank you. The club I'm with allows piercings to be covered, but I am concerned. I'll have to check with a piercer to see if they can be removed for short periods.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pingu wrote: »

Out of Interest why would you say big guys are more prone to knee injuries?

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Because almost every big Judoka I know, and a lot of smaller one's too suffered knee problems prior to using support which was relieved by the use of knee support.

Pingu

They/you probably would of been better off getting the source of the problem treated with a good physio/ sports injury therapist, rather than just attempting to alleviate the symptoms with a support.

I think it is a bit short sighted really to advise someone that has not even started the sport to start wearing needless supports, which can potentially cause there own problems, as opposed to developing and strengthening their bodies own support structures.

I'm a relatively big judoka, and i'd say over half the guys on the mat last friday were over 90kgs. I was the only one wearing a support, I had a support on one knee to allow me to keep training with an injury i picked up in another sport. Which wasn't then needed at training on Sunday. Supports are for short term use.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pingu wrote: »

They/you probably would of been better off getting the source of the problem treated with a good physio/ sports injury therapist, rather than just attempting to alleviate the symptoms with a support.

I think it is a bit short sighted really to advise someone that has not even started the sport to start wearing needless supports, which can potentially cause there own problems, as opposed to developing and strengthening their bodies own support structures.

I'm a relatively big judoka, and i'd say over half the guys on the mat last friday were over 90kgs. I was the only one wearing a support, I had a support on one knee to allow me to keep training with an injury i picked up in another sport. Which wasn't then needed at training on Sunday. Supports are for short term use.

Ok.

cletus

Boston wrote: »

Thank you. The club I'm with allows piercings to be covered, but I am concerned. I'll have to check with a piercer to see if they can be removed for short periods.

Have a nipple piercing, do bjj, take it out before and and put it in after training, no probs.

Boston

The lads on the piercing forum seem to recon you have no time at all before it closes up, which is consistent with what I've heard. How long have you had yours?

cletus

since 2001, i've often taken it out and forgotten to put it back in for up to a week, a little tighter, but no problem

Boston

After seven years the flesh tube is probably well enough formed for it not to be a problem. What gauge are you?

cletus

haven't a clue, but i was doing this 4-6 months after the piercing