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Chances of getting planning??

  • 14-10-2008 7:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭


    I own a house in my name but my wifes name is not involved as we were not married when i bought the house. Not we have a site in the countryside where my wife is originally from. She has got a local needs form to fill out before she goes to the planning clinic but it asks for my details aswell. If she puts down on the form that i own a house already will that likely mean that we wont get permission? I would have thought so...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    The local needs form is there to clarify if you actually have a need for a house in a restricted area.

    If you own a house elsewhere, why do you wish to build another?

    If the site is in a restricted area, the planning authority would not look favourably on a person who wishes to build a second home/ holiday home/ house to rent.

    If you plan to move to the locality permanently, you will have to state that and give proof if possible. You will also have to state your intentions for your existing house.

    Nobody on this site is going to suggest to omit important details like that from the form.
    Regardless, the planning authority will have the ability to do a land registry search of your name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Isn't local needs on the way out, the DOEaH issued a statement regarding the EU law and it being discrimination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 AutoCAD


    Yes Mellor,

    'Local Needs' is on the way out we're told,
    but its still in many development plans around the country,
    and so poses a threat to new developments in rural areas.

    Its red tape still though - its who you know
    at this stage.....

    Local case where the applicant was able to prove that
    he sold a house in the US and wants to move back here, however
    no mention in his application that his wife has a house here already
    in her own name - went through though. Its who you know.....

    A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    Not necessarily so Autocad, I don't disagree with you. I have seen it misused and I have certainly seen people released from 5 year occupancy with the aid of a local TD.

    Personally I never understood how one citizen had more right than another citizen to build in a certain area! I understand the idea or reason but its still discrimination.

    The US applicant must has been a returning emmigrant, which is a very strong position should you wish to build in rural Ireland. Minister Roche gave returning Emmigrants quite a strong position, in his guidelines on planning recommendations for rural development.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I dont know if 'local needs' going would be such a good thing.

    I would see it as the first step towards blanket banning. The policy of government at the moment anyway is to refuse rural applications EXCEPT in cases where local needs are shown. If 'local needs' are somehow removed, then government policy to refuse everything will be applied..

    sorry to go off topic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,309 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    My sister recently applied for planning for a new dwelling about 5kms away from where she currently lives. She is originally from about 15kms away but her husband is local to the area all his life and has three generations at least of family in the area. She is currently living in a 3 bed semi detached and has 4 children, all girls. The council returned rejected her application on the grounds that she is already a house owner and can build on to her existing house if needed. Does anyone else feel that this is absolutely ridiculous. If she built on she would have to knock all current sheds she has in her back yard and basically build up her whole back yard leaving her with no storaged for fuel or garage.

    She told the planning officer this and he said that they had no sheds on the land at the rear of her current house on their maps so she would have to apply for planning permission for them too.

    So she did, and then reapplyed after being granted.

    They then told her to knock her sheds and build an extension. She was furious and went to our local councillor, and he got in touch with the planning offices. He returned to her two days later saying she should apply again and this time he can nearly guarantee it'll be granted.

    Does anyone else find this whole planning application system as being ridiculous?

    p.s sorry this is slightly off topic.


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