Sherlock Holmes

JP Liz

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988045/

interesting cast choices and director choice

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/10/10/robert-downey-jr-as-sherlock-holmes-first-pictures/

first pictures

Pigman II

Cor blimey!

speedboatchase

Doesn't look right at all

MagicMarker

Apparently this is even supposed to contain marshall arts!

I think Downey Jnr is a good choice as the lead, but i can't see Jude Law in the supporting role, just doesn't really fit for me. Someone like Paul Giamatti would be much better suited imo.

keefg

And the fact that they gone a stuck in a crappy love story in the mix for SH really bugs me.

What's wrong with it just being a good detective story? Why the need for a love interest for the main character? :mad::mad:

pixelburp

All I can say is ...

DON'T Bloody Think So!

As much as I love Downing Jr, those shots look craptastic; Holmes looks like a bum & Watson looks like a boxer. That's before you get to the further bad news that it's Guy Ritchie directing it. The man's a twit & I would have after yet another critical flop he'd be out of the game. And a love story? Holmes? Has that idiot cockney / toff even read the novels?

Shame

Shryke

Damn, I don't think it looks bad at all. I enjoy the old Sherlock films and I've read a few of the stories and enjoyed them enough. I like the cast and while it could be an aweful medley of crap it may well turn out to be a good bit of entertainment. I'll at least wait for a trailer.

pixelburp

Sandor wrote: »

Damn, I don't think it looks bad at all. I enjoy the old Sherlock films and I've read a few of the stories and enjoyed them enough. I like the cast and while it could be an aweful medley of crap it may well turn out to be a good bit of entertainment. I'll at least wait for a trailer.

Any other director & I would agree, but this Guy Ritchie we're talking about here folks. The man's a talentless one trick pony.

humanji

I'll reserve judgement on this. There's little point commenting on the photos, since we don't really know the context. Holmes always used disguises in the books so this could be one. Or, as I'd assume, rather than being a straight Sherlock Holmes story, it's going to be some sort of twist on it (we all know that re-imaginings are all the rage these days).

Eirebear

humanji wrote: »

Or, as I'd assume, rather than being a straight Sherlock Holmes story, it's going to be some sort of twist on it (we all know that re-imaginings are all the rage these days).

Of course it is, Guy Ritchie is making it.

Lock, Stock and Two Hounds of the Baskervilles.....

JP Liz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOr4i-wbH-M

bluto63

Since it was partly filmed in my uni, uni of Greenwich, I'm gonna go see it

the whole year inn

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2008&mon=10&evt=rdj-sherlock&pic=robert-downey-jr-sherlock-holmes-02.jpg

nice ass .......i bet he works out

Pigman II

I'd love to send Guy ritchie a telegram.

GUY RITCHIE. STOP. PLEASE. STOP.

His films are the worst kind of schlock in the mainstream market atm. I think anyone who likes any of his movies other than Lock Stock needs their heads examined (and even that only worked because of it's energy and novelty value - you can see all the cracks upon a rewatch).

JP Liz

Brad Pitt won't be joining the cast of Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes after all.
London's Daily Mirror reported that he is set to arrive in London this week to begin filming scenes as Holmes' nemesis Moriarty. He is expected to shoot all over the city, including the Royal Victoria Dock, Pontoon Docks, Pinewood and Chatham Docks in Kent, the paper claimed.

shame

JP Liz

Its done well in the US box office

MagicMarker

Personally, seeing the trailer, I don't like the fact that there's CGI in this.

Steyr

Just home from it, its very enjoyable.:)

JP Liz

Its highly enjoyable loved RDJ

ShooterSF

Wasn't expecting much but was very good. Some of the back and forth between Holmes and Watson was excellent!

Undergod

Anyone else notice how all of the poor people were Irish?
East-end Londoners for the last few hundred years would typically have a lot of Irish parentage, or be Irish immigrants, but seriously, ALL of the poor people?

ScumLord

ShooterSF wrote: »

Wasn't expecting much but was very good. Some of the back and forth between Holmes and Watson was excellent!

That's what made mutiny on the bounty.

Undergod wrote: »

Anyone else notice how all of the poor people were Irish?
East-end Londoners for the last few hundred years would typically have a lot of Irish parentage, or be Irish immigrants, but seriously, ALL of the poor people?

Irish people are the dregs of society. That's just a fact of life.

BlitzKrieg

I could have sworn the boat captain was tony robinson but I am wrong.


how strange...

Josey Wales

MagicMarker wrote: »

Personally, seeing the trailer, I don't like the fact that there's CGI in this.

Why?

The CGI in the film is used quite sparingly and mainly to recreate London of the nineteenth century. Without CGI it would not have been possible.

I didn't expect much of the film myself but I was pleasantly surprised. I'm now looking forward to the inevitable sequel.

omahaid

As a fan of the original books, will I come out of this in tears of joy or tears of rage?

Skinfull

I have to say I enjoyed this. Having seen it twice... and not loving ti the first time but being convinced to go again I really enjoyed the second viewing.

My gripe with it is that the monologue that Holmes has at the end where he explains how he'd figured it all out was too much. As an audience we were kept in the dark too long and didn't get a chance to be engaged also there was little or no tension. However, RDJ and JL were excellent and had great chemistry. 3/5
Hope the story for the sequel is more engaging.

who what when

omahaid wrote: »

As a fan of the original books, will I come out of this in tears of joy or tears of rage?

Dont know if you'l be actually crying but i suspect you'l be happy enough.
Its certainly the best Holmes in terms of Conan Doyles vision of Holmes. And a very entertaining take on him it is, very much in fitting with the era!
Not so sure that you'l be blown away with the story though

Fannymcslap

Haven't seen it yet but it appears that it tailors to Ritchie's fetish of bare knuckle boxing, is this true? Also as a massive fan of the books am I going to want to sh|t in Ritchie's mouth?

senordingdong

Do want to see this but I'm not 100% per cent on it.
I'm a little skeptical that they can't tell us anything about the plot in the trailer....I find that's always suspicious.

Also, the trailer looks very flashy, and I don't like the lookc of that super slow mo boxing scene....how many of those is Richie going to make?

Bunny_Ears

I've seen the trailer in the cinema last night. I wouldn't say that it looks bad, but it has nothing to do with the real Sherlock Holmes story, it's just another Hollywood commercial project. They just use Holmes' name to get another bunch of money. And that's sad, because Holmes is classics.

Undergod

Bunny_Ears wrote: »

I've seen the trailer in the cinema last night. I wouldn't say that it looks bad, but it has nothing to do with the real Sherlock Holmes story, it's just another Hollywood commercial project. They just use Holmes' name to get another bunch of money. And that's sad, because Holmes is classics.

His character is very close to the literary Holmes. There are quite a few anachronistic elements to various parts of the film, and it is a little more action-y, but I wouldn't say it's pissing on the Conan Doyle stories either.

BlitzKrieg

the trailer for it is really bad.

Honestly it has quite a number of the elements that makes up a sherlock holmes story and a number of the characters.

Where it goes wrong probably is that its an original plot rather then adaptation, which means the actual *scheme* is rather bondish in its execution.

but the characters are very much in line with what one would expect and there are a number of holmes deduction bits and not so much balls out action (the slowdown in most scenes is actually linked to the character rather then outright Guy Richie being Guy Richie) so overall I dont think Holmes fans would be crying at the film's presentation.


but

My fondest holmes memory is this as a child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X7YRcRR1Uo

So I am probably not the best judgement of authencity.

also on

moriority they do him quite well in the film as he is more like he is in the books, on the sidelines in the dark corners of the plot

EDIT:

the fighting style in the film is taken from the actual source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baritsu

Vampireskiss

Didnt like this movie at all

The Sparrow

Just back from Sherlock Holmes and I liked it a lot. I was sure that Guy Ritchie was the worst possible director and I was all set to never watch it. BUT when I heard Mark Kermode say that it was actually pretty good I gave it a chance.

Glad I did as it is much more Sherlock Holmes than Guy Ritchie. Sure there is the odd nod like the bare knucke boxing but it is brief and the chemistry between Holmes and Watson is great and I loved how they Victorian London looked and how they portrayed Moriarty.

My only real issue was that all the poor crazy characters were Irish. Guy Ritchie really has a bizarre stereotype of Irish people.

I'm looking forward to the next one and I hope it becomes a series of movies.

4/5

Seillejet

I concur with the majority of other posters who have seen the film. The chemistry was quite good between Law and Downey Junior, great action scenes and Rachel Adams was very good.

I really enjoyed how London was portrayed and although as another poster said we were kept in the dark for quite a while I liked that. I will definitley be going to see the inevitable sequel.

K4t

Flashy, sexy, looks good but lacks any real substance or class to be honest. By no means a classic but definitely watchable. A decent caper. 3/5

happymondays

Saw it last night and was very disapointed. No suspence and the story was
pants. Was actually bored half way through it. really looking foward to it as well.
Suspect the only reason its getting high reviews on IMDB and the likes is because everyone including myself loved the old sherlock holmes.

2/5

Decent hamish acting but story was a bit stupid and convoluted. Too much Guy Richie slow-motion rubbish a la lock-stock and snatch.

2.75 / 5

Theta

A decent watch 3/5.

jonny oxford

I liked the Holmes character but over all didn't think a lot of the film, full of the usual Ritchie crap.

He has done those fight scenes to death how does he continue to get away with it?

norrie rugger

jonny oxford wrote: »

I liked the Holmes character but over all didn't think a lot of the film, full of the usual Ritchie crap.

He has done those fight scenes to death how does he continue to get away with it?

Because he fit it in very well here. He uses it to show how quickly and analytically Holmes thinks, even under duress

Dont be at yourself

Poor movie. Too much emphasis on CGI and showing off the sets and production values, too little in the way of plot.

jonny oxford

norrie rugger wrote: »

Because he fit it in very well here. He uses it to show how quickly and analytically Holmes thinks, even under duress

I don't agree at all, I think the whole thing was completely unnecessary, it annoyed me.

jdscrubs

Saw this film last night. Heard from mates of mine that it was meant to be good & funny. Also the reviews for it are fairly good and its doing quite well in the States, probably from people who cant get into see Avatar.

The interplay between Rob Down Junior & Jude Law, who I dont normally rate as an actor, was good and entertaining. As for the film itself, the film dragged, the story was a bore, the villian usless, Rachel McAdams(who is hot) wasnt used enough, there was no need to show how Sherlock was going to fight someone then show him doing what he was going to do. That was done too many times. I was bored halfway through.

paddyismaddy

I loved Downey he is always watchable even in crap films

spank_inferno

It seemed well designed and looked authentic.
Some of the acting was good & Downey & Law played off each other quite well.

Rachel Adams's part wasnt necessary & looked more like a way to show that Holmes wasnt gay (thank you america).

That fight scene was ridiculuous though.
I mean if you want to show how brilliant a thinker Sherlock Holmes was then how about you create a plot clever enough to flex his intellectual rather than actual muscles? "discombobulate"... *smack* :rolleyes:

Why did they use a guy who looks like a 27 yr old model as the home secretary?.

OK film, boring in places...... 3/5 at best.

Dyr

if that Lestrade believed holmes en route to the home secretary why not just march in once the plot had been revealed and nick him?

Why did Blackwood stick the ginger midget in the coffin as a clue to set holmes on his way? Why not just chuck him in the river? Why not burn that
lab pronto?

If blackwood was born out of wedlock and his father kept his parentage a secret how was he a lord?

Other than that it was a silly silly film, jude law was surprisingly good, and the villain was impressive.

Raging Bob

Yeah, Mark Strong is pretty awesome in films.

BlitzKrieg

Why did Blackwood stick the ginger midget in the coffin as a clue to set holmes on his way? Why not just chuck him in the river? Why not burn that
lab pronto?

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Fear, the villian's plan centered on getting those that normally wouldnt side with him within the order to do so out of fear. Even though he had the home secretary, there were many who were like the ambassador who wouldnt. Creating an atmosphere of fear and proving himself the better of the man who caught him would be substantial amount of fear to turn those to him.

Undergod

spank_inferno wrote: »

That fight scene was ridiculuous though.
I mean if you want to show how brilliant a thinker Sherlock Holmes was then how about you create a plot clever enough to flex his intellectual rather than actual muscles? "discombobulate"... *smack* :rolleyes:

In the Conan Doyle stories though, Holmes is a capable boxer (I think it's said he was a successful amateur in the past) and he is very strong.

Raging Bob

Yeah, like Undergod says, it's an accurate portrayal of the character. But the fight scene is woefully put together. It's like Snatch meets CSI at times.