Noob Alert : Need info about different types of Licences.

christophicus

OK lads, I have been looking around the Web for the last few days and I cannot find what I am looking for, I thought I had, but then I found conflicting info so I need this straightened out.

What is involved in getting and "m" licence ?? Is it simply a theory test, to get the provisional "M" and then your allowed to drive on your own ? Are you allowed to drive on all roads bar moterways ?

Does getting an "A1" licence involve the same process as an "m" ? Is the Theory test the same, do you need to do a practical test for the "A1" provisional .

Del2005

You do the theory test for Motor Bikes, M/A1/A. Once you've done the theory test you can apply for a learners permit for what ever class you want. If you are over 18 your better off going for the A licence cause you can ride any bike on that once it's less the 25kw, including mopeds.

We have no CBT yet so once you've done the theory you can drive, but I highly advise getting lessons before you go out on your own.

The restrictions on learners permits are you can't drive on motorways, carry pillions and have to wear a high viz tabard with a 15cm red L front and rear.

You have to do the A test on a bike bigger the 150cc, but you can hire them off driving schools for lessons and the test.

christophicus

Cheers mate, that pretty much clears up all of my questions, great post !!

zonEEE

Del2005 wrote: »

You do the theory test for Motor Bikes, M/A1/A. Once you've done the theory test you can apply for a learners permit for what ever class you want. If you are over 18 your better off going for the A licence cause you can ride any bike on that once it's less the 25kw, including mopeds.

We have no CBT yet so once you've done the theory you can drive, but I highly advise getting lessons before you go out on your own.

The restrictions on learners permits are you can't drive on motorways, carry pillions and have to wear a high viz tabard with a 15cm red L front and rear.

You have to do the A test on a bike bigger the 150cc, but you can hire them off driving schools for lessons and the test.

are you sure about the high viz and the L plates? Everyone i know that has a moped dont use them and all the gards look for is tax license etc.

Steffano2002

strongr wrote: »

are you sure about the high viz and the L plates? Everyone i know that has a moped dont use them and all the gards look for is tax license etc.

Yes, Del2005 is right about the High-viz with L plates.

zonEEE

Steffano2002 wrote: »

Yes, Del2005 is right about the High-viz with L plates.

Am i right in saying the gards don't really care about that rule? Like the gards are always stopping my friends on scooters and never say a word about the L plates and high viz

Alkers

Also be aware that if you've passed the theory test for a car you can go ahead and apply for a A1/M learner permit without having to do a new theory test.

Steffano2002

strongr wrote: »

Am i right in saying the gards don't really care about that rule? Like the gards are always stopping my friends on scooters and never say a word about the L plates and high viz

The Garda may let it slide when your friends are stopped... However, if one of your friends causes an accident, the insurance could walk away from the claim as they were not actually allowed to be on their scooter without the High Viz... I wouldn't give these insurance companies an inch! Be legal! ALWAYS!

Del2005

Simona1986 wrote: »

Also be aware that if you've passed the theory test for a car you can go ahead and apply for a A1/M learner permit without having to do a new theory test.

Not anymore. There are now different theory tests for cars and bikes. You need to do a theory test for each category you want a learners permit in.

Steffano2002

Del2005 wrote: »

Not anymore. There are now different theory tests for cars and bikes. You need to do a theory test for each category you want a learners permit in.

Correct and right!

Alkers

When did that change? I only got my learner permit for A1 in Feb?

Del2005

Simona1986 wrote: »

When did that change? I only got my learner permit for A1 in Feb?

Not too sure but it was at least a year ago. Whenever they added the new questions into the book.

Steffano2002

Simona1986 wrote: »

When did that change? I only got my learner permit for A1 in Feb?

But why did you apply for A1? Why didn't you go for A from the start? A1 is pointeless really...

Alkers

Because I had already done the theory test that covered me for the A1/M license when I was getting my car license, it was only a matter of filling in a form and waiting for the licence to be sent out. Since I was going to be on a 50cc for at least a year because of the insurance costs with anything bigger I've got that year to do the other theory test and get the A learner permit and apply for the full test.

Steffano2002

Simona1986 wrote: »

Because I had already done the theory test that covered me for the A1/M license when I was getting my car license, it was only a matter of filling in a form and waiting for the licence to be sent out. Since I was going to be on a 50cc for at least a year because of the insurance costs with anything bigger I've got that year to do the other theory test and get the A learner permit and apply for the full test.

In that case, A1 is inderstandable.

Hotblack Desiato

Simona1986 wrote: »

Because I had already done the theory test that covered me for the A1/M license when I was getting my car license

It would have covered you for A as well.

Alkers

Would it? Does it still then or what's the story? I only applied for my learner permit in Feb.

zonEEE

Steffano2002 wrote: »

The Garda may let it slide when your friends are stopped... However, if one of your friends causes an accident, the insurance could walk away from the claim as they were not actually allowed to be on their scooter without the High Viz... I wouldn't give these insurance companies an inch! Be legal! ALWAYS!

In the theory test it said all drivers with the exception of motorbikes/mopeds have to have L plates. So im pretty sure you don't need L plates/high viz.

galwaytt

Steffano2002 wrote: »

... However, if one of your friends causes an accident, the insurance could walk away from the claim as they were not actually allowed to be on their scooter without the High Viz... I wouldn't give these insurance companies an inch! Be legal! ALWAYS!

incorrect - they cannot refuse to pay on a claim where the insurance cover is mandatory under the Road Traffic Act.....this has already been in court....

now I understand your logic, and it's not faulty. However, it has been tested, and found to be wanting..........

If it was the UK - you're dead right - you'd be goosed !

Steffano2002

galwaytt wrote: »

incorrect - they cannot refuse to pay on a claim where the insurance cover is mandatory under the Road Traffic Act.....this has already been in court....

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. They'll pay the claim of course and then sue you for that amount.

Steffano2002

strongr wrote: »

In the theory test it said all drivers with the exception of motorbikes/mopeds have to have L plates. So im pretty sure you don't need L plates/high viz.

You MUST wear high viz wil L plates on them. It just came into play about a month or two ago.