Strange pricing 5D MkII

jpfahy

I've been looking at pricing for this camera. usually its cheaper to buy stuff in the UK but now the reverse appears to be the case:

Canon 5D MkII Body only:

Ireland: Conns €2599, Berminghams €2499
UK: Jessops and Mifsuds £2300 which is €2953

So for the first time I can walk into Conns or Berminghams and buy a new camera cheaper than in the UK. Seems too good to be true. Is RipOff Ireland dead?????

Ricky91t

Just Rip off Jessops and Misfuds i think,
Always noticed they are very pricy!

ThOnda

:eek: I can't believe what I see.
Let's wait another day...

jpfahy

I bought my 5D kit from Jessops in Newry late last year and saved about 500, strange its gone the other way now, the currency is about the same.

Fajitas!

I think it's going to be the equiv of €1800 in NY, excluding city tax/import...

liamtinney

I think you will find a price difference in the uk from now on as sterling is low and any new stock coming in to the UK will cost them a lot more, If you look at the 1D MK3 it's the same price or more expensive than it was in january, the shop I bought the 1D MK3 from is £100 more now than January, we all know how the prices of cameras fall in a year but this has not happened in th UK.
On another point If I had a choice between my 1D Mk3 or my 5D mk1 I would take the 5D anyday and still use it 95% of the time as the 1D MK3 is now the spare camera

ThOnda

liamtinney wrote: »

...I would take the 5D anyday and still use it 95% of the time as the 1D MK3 is now the spare camera

:eek: Nooooo!!! That makes me feel the need for 5D even more!

PixelTrawler

jpfahy wrote: »

I've been looking at pricing for this camera. usually its cheaper to buy stuff in the UK but now the reverse appears to be the case:

Canon 5D MkII Body only:

Ireland: Conns €2599, Berminghams €2499
UK: Jessops and Mifsuds £2300 which is €2953

So for the first time I can walk into Conns or Berminghams and buy a new camera cheaper than in the UK. Seems too good to be true. Is RipOff Ireland dead?????

Is this available next month? Be interesting to see what the likes of Kea-Photo will charge. I have seen places in the UK looking for 2 grand sterling so 2300 seems high

AnimalRights

As I mentioned in the 50D thread the local shops are cheaper then the UK shops for the 50D.
I am glad because I def want to buy my 5D mk II from an Irish shop, if anything goes wrong it's so much easier to just go back in to 'em.

Fajitas!

Aaaaaand I'm right.

They just have to get them in stock now. Expect to pay 2000ish to include the city tax. I'll let you guys work out the import duties.

Buying a camera in Ireland might be momentarily cheaper than the UK, but I think it's even cheaper over towards France & Germany. And you'll still get that lovely European warrenty.

jackdaw

Still gonna be cheapest on ebay ...

AnimalRights

But by how much......
I will want a price diff of at least 300+ b4 I order it online.

Fajitas!

Well... I'd say that 1800 will be the cheapest buy around, HK, NY or EU. No way could I see it going for much less in the first quarter of sales anyways.

AR, I reckon you could find one for 2200 in Ireland after a while, if they stick to the prices that've been put out there.

I'll post a youtube video of someone eating their hat if there's a genuine source selling 5D Mk II's for cheaper than 1800.

jpfahy

So where is likely to be the cheapest bricks and mortar store here in Ireland?

Fajitas!

I reckon Birminghams or Gunns, but tbh, I can't say anything for sure.

Morrisseeee

On another point If I had a choice between my 1D Mk3 or my 5D mk1 I would take the 5D anyday and still use it 95% of the time as the 1D MK3 is now the spare camera

PS. Can I 'mind' your 1DMk3 when you're out with your 5D !!

jackdaw

AnimalRights wrote: »

But by how much......
I will want a price diff of at least 300+ b4 I order it online.

If you are willing to wait , it should be around €1600-€1700 on Kea
next february ...

it will be €2000 next month when it is released ... and what is it in Conns ?

€2400 ?


Im waiting for reviews ...

very tempted to get the 50D to be honest .. after seeing that Swedish wildlife photographers review ... ill post the link if i find it..

liamtinney

Morrisseeee wrote: »

PS. Can I 'mind' your 1DMk3 when you're out with your 5D !!

You would probaly make more use of it than I have, It has not seen the light of day in the last 5 months :rolleyes:

Ricky91t

liamtinney wrote: »

You would probaly make more use of it than I have, It has not seen the light of day in the last 5 months :rolleyes:

:eek:
Impulse buy?:D

Morrisseeee

It has not seen the light of day in the last 5 months

Ok, I'll mind it for the winter for ya, ie. just to keep it ticking over

AnimalRights

jackdaw wrote: »

If you are willing to wait , it should be around €1600-€1700 on Kea
next february ...

You're having a laff! I'm like a kid waiting for his presents on Xmas eve ffs!

At least when a Computer game or a film is released you get a date, but here we only have November.

Fajitas!

You could be waiting a bit longer than that for one in Ireland too

AnimalRights

I am seriously thinking about your line earlier about it been cheaper in France/Germany, I'd nearly go on a beano with a few mates over to a European city and purchase it there.

gloobag

Just thought I'd throw this little nugget of information in here for ye as it might influence your decision to buy one of the new Canon cameras. The RAW files my 50D produces are not compatible with the current versions of Photoshop or Lightroom, and never will be according to Adobe. You'll have to upgrade to CS4 or Ligthroom 2.1, current versions won't be compatible with the new version of ACR that's incoming. I'm guessing it'll be the same with the 5D MKII.

If I had known this before I purchased, it might have swayed me in a different direction, I just can't get used to the Canon software provided and I'm not liking the results I'm getting with it. Anyways, this has nothing to do with Canon or the 50D (fantastic camera!!!), it's just Adobe being a bunch of money grabbing c*nts!

Fajitas!

I don't think that's entirely true - As far as I know, there'll be an Adobe 50D Beta file hanging about somewhere for ACR, but the full one won't be out for a while - That said, the Beta should do you for the moment!

gloobag

Fajitas! wrote: »

I don't think that's entirely true - As far as I know, there'll be an Adobe 50D Beta file hanging about somewhere for ACR, but the full one won't be out for a while - That said, the Beta should do you for the moment!

I gleaned that info from the Adobe website, I'll try and find a link. I've used the beta of the new ACR alright, but according to Adobe, they don't actually have the 50Ds color profile yet, so results are a bit unpredictable with it, and not recommended.

From the few shots I've put through it, I'd say this is true, as the White Balance was way off from what the camera had.

Fajitas!

Ah ok, it may be Canons fault then, if they don't have all the info the need just yet - Still, I reckon you'll be able to get something for CS and LR soon enough, I wouldn't fret just yet.

stcstc

also you could always use the software canon supplies

democrates

Last check body only:

camera.ie €2550
conns €2600
bermingham €2499
hall (item not listed)
camera exchange (item not listed)
komplett.ie (item not listed)
dabs.ie €2543.15 (it was a bit cheaper when they first advertised it)

technikdirekt.de €2559
digitalwonderworld.de €2263 (have my order in)

Do these people compete?

amazon.co.uk €2956 (2300 gbp) but don't ship this item to ROI
jessops.com €2956 (2300 gbp)
calumetphoto.co.uk €2956 (2300 gbp)
t4cameras.co.uk €2956 (2300 gbp)
parkcameras.com €2956 (2300 gbp)

warehouseexpress.com €2956 (2300 gbp) (with 4GB CF card and gadget bag)
purelygadgets.co.uk (item not listed, the 5D mk1 body is €2120 (1650 gpb))
cameraking.co.uk (item not listed)
7dayshop.com (item not listed)
microglobe.co.uk (item not listed)

I haven't bought from all of these so some may not ship to ROI.

Fajitas!

At an estimate, the NY price, including import duties, should work out at about 2200, and throw on another 100 for posting and insuring it. Still works out competitivly, if (IF) they get it in stock before the Irish and European retailers.

jpfahy

Fajitas! wrote: »

At an estimate, the NY price, including import duties, should work out at about 2200, and throw on another 100 for posting and insuring it. Still works out competitivly, if (IF) they get it in stock before the Irish and European retailers.

Lack of European Warranty would be a worry for me and the dollar is sliding fast.

digitalwonderworld.de

anyone deal with these before?

Fajitas!

Only bad things about them - Do a google - From what I can see, they used to be NYCamera before going bust.

Some other chap is supposedly being sued for giving them a bad review...

Tbh, a Mack Warrenty would do me, I know it's more money on top, but hey, it'll do.

nilhg

I've bought several items, including my current DSLR from computeruniverse.de. Their current price for the 5Dmk2 is €2199 +delivery, no stock or expected delivery date though.

jpfahy

nilhg wrote: »

I've bought several items, including my current DSLR from computeruniverse.de. Their current price for the 5Dmk2 is €2199 +delivery, no stock or expected delivery date though.

Works out at 2264 delivered, they bump up the VAT to 21% when you select Ireland for delivery. So they are less than 10% cheaper. I think I'd rather buy here in case of any issues with the camera.

jackdaw

AnimalRights wrote: »

I am seriously thinking about your line earlier about it been cheaper in France/Germany, I'd nearly go on a beano with a few mates over to a European city and purchase it there.

hmmmmm......

I am going to Berlin in December ....

jackdaw

AnimalRights wrote: »

You're having a laff! I'm like a kid waiting for his presents on Xmas eve ffs!

At least when a Computer game or a film is released you get a date, but here we only have November.

!!! I hear ya !!!

I was thinking maybe of getting both bodies 50D + 5Dmk2 .. but then i realised i was being crazy ... was I ?

AnimalRights

Depends on what money you have to burn...I'll have the 40D and hopefully the 5D mk II.
If I was loaded I would have the 50D replacing the 40D.

Fajitas!

If you have the money, go for it.

If they'll get the use, go for it.

If you have the need or it'll benefit your earnings go for it.

If you gotta get the newest toys, go for it...

AnimalRights

So you're saying he should go for it then?


:P

Morrisseeee

Save yourself the hassle of buying 2, go for the Hasselblad I saw recently on adverts.ie !!!!!!

Fajitas!

There's a new consumer Hasselblad out anyways, the H3D - 31 II

Will be coming in about €16,000 body only, which is a bargain if you think about it...

jackdaw

Ill get the 5D mk II i think .. the length i lose i can make up with extenders ...

ill get better shots at the wide end ... and of course the IQ will be much better ... the only drawback is the speed .. but i think 3.9fps should be fine ..


out of interest what does everyone do here ?? for a recession time .. people seem to have plenty of money to spend !! .. I'm lucky to have gotten a good job in a recession ..

whyulittle

What you going to use it for jack? Extenders aren't ideal.

jackdaw

whyulittle wrote: »

What you going to use it for jack? Extenders aren't ideal.

I like all sorts of photography .. Wildlife.. Sports, landscapes .. street ..

I know extenders aren't ideal .. but i have a 70-200 f2.8 IS L , so with a 2X that is 400mm at f5.6 ... pretty sweet ..

I also have the 70-300 f5.6 USM IS -- (I know extender won't work on this)
but my point being in good light 300mm at f5.6 is fine for me .. good DOF ..

so im assuming the same at 400mm .. (as long as i take care with stability) ..

again .. if i find out that IQ between 50D and 5D mkII is only different at high ISO .. then i might stick with the 50D..

Fajitas!

Well... You're going to have 21 megapixels to crop into, at the end of the day.

jackdaw

Fajitas! wrote: »

Well... You're going to have 21 megapixels to crop into, at the end of the day.

Thats another thing ... if i get the 5D .. ill need a new laptop for
processing ... my own ****ty laptop is slow enough with my 10mp 400D pics!!!

and a flash ....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... I feel another bout of lunacy coming on !!!

Fajitas!

Macbook Pro and a 580ex II?

jackdaw

Fajitas! wrote: »

Macbook Pro and a 580ex II?

A good Dell maybe ...

and yes the 580ex II seems to be one of the best out ..

Valentia

I'm going to wait for the Mk III.Then I'm going to sell all my gear, lenses and all, and start over. Have less but better philosophy.

BTW jackdaw, you will find that the quality of lenses is very important with the full frame. The 5D tends to show any faults so the 2x doesn't seem that good an idea. In fact there is a serious drop in quality.

ThOnda

It looks that 5DMkII + 24-70/2.8L + flash + cards would exceed €4.000,00.
Let me think...

It's about 200 take-away dinners only! :eek:
If I stopped having dinners, I would loose weight (eeeehaaaa) and would be able to buy that in less than year. Unfortunately I don't do take-aways.

ThOnda

Valentia wrote: »

...The 5D tends to show any faults so the 2x doesn't seem that good an idea. In fact there is a serious drop in quality.

Well, if you print the same size picture, the quality would be better, because you'll get the sharpness from more pixels (data). It is just wrong to compare 100% crop on the display. We should be comparing prints of the same size.