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Ulster v Edinburgh Friday

  • 03-10-2008 11:29am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭


    Any thoughts?

    Ulster: B Cunningham; C Schifcofske, D Cave, P Steinmetz, A Trimble; N O'Connor, C Willis; T Court, R Best, (capt), BJ Botha, E O'Donoghue, R Caldwell, S Ferris, D Pollock, R Diack.
    Replacements: N Brady, J Fitzpatrick, C Del Fava, K Dawson/M McCullough, I Boss, I Humphreys, T Nagusa

    Edinburgh: J Thompson, J Houston, H Southwell, N De Luca, M Robertson, D Blair, M Blair (capt), A Jacobsen, A Kelly, G Kerr, J Hamilton, B Gissing, M Mustchin, A Hogg, S Newlands.
    Replacements: R Ford, G Cross, C Hamilton, C Fusaro, G Laidlaw, P Godman, C MacRae.

    Mike


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    For betting purposes?

    Both teams are well capable of imploding.

    Williams has ripped into the Ulster team, there's about 7 or 8 changes there, Cillian Willis at SH will have a tough time - but he has the potential.

    Good to see Ferris start, and the whole backline looks really shaken up with Trimble in the left wing, and Darren Cave at 13 - not sure how well that will work but it couldn't possibly be worse than last week.

    Embra have no Patterson and a new comer at FB, probably one eye on next weeks HC, so I'd fancy an Ulster win - mainly because the changes know they can play themselves into a HC starting place, that and I do think Cave is a flyer and could get space to get past the Embra midfield.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Yep betting :o

    Cheers, it looked a tricky one so I thought I'd consult the experts ;)

    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    I would say Edinburgh have a fairly clear advantage in the middle 5, so to speak, backrow and halfbacks. and that should be enough to win them the game. If Ulster's young guns, Ferris and Pollock can counter that, Ulster have a good chance of winning. D. blair is an interesting outhalf, good runner of the ball, iirc, and Ulster's defence of 10 channel hasn't been great. Blair's confidence kicker though, if he's unsettled, Ulster's chances improve.

    Haven't seen enough of either front 5 to call it, though to my untrained eye, it looks evens there.

    Steinmetz, Trimble and Cave can do serious damage if given a proper platform, though, like I said, I don't think they'll get that due to the strenght of the Edinburgh backrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    Is this match online/on tv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    Final result 13-9 to Ulster. Scrappy game apparently but good win, takes them off the bottom.

    Anyone watch this game? How did Willis do at scrumhalf? Anxious to know as I reckoned he was a great prospect before he fell out of favour at Leinster...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Rigel


    Well done Ulster.

    Ulster end the pain at Ravenhill
    Ulster 13 Edinburgh 9
    By Gavin Mairs
    Saturday, 4 October 2008

    The standing ovation at the final whistle said it all. After a month of pain, Ulster finally got their season up and running with victory over Edinburgh at a raucous Ravenhill that is worth far more to Matt Williams’ men than four league points.
    After defeats to the Scarlets, Cardiff Blues, Newport Gwent Dragons and the Ospreys, this was a game Ulster simply had to win before their Heineken Cup campaign gets under way against mighty Stade Francais at Ravenhill next Saturday.
    While the defence was a huge improvement on defeat to the Ospreys, it was the overall urgency, ball-carrying threat and indomitable spirit that impressed.
    The victory not only lifts Ulster off the bottom of the Magners League – Connacht don’t play Leinster until tomorrow – but also should provide a vital injection of self-belief.
    It was Edinburgh who went on to enjoy the lion’s share of possession in the opening exchanges, with the visitors probing the narrow side with good effect before a huge tackle by Ferris disrupted their flow as David Blair tried to move the ball wide.
    It was not until the 20th minute that Ulster were able to spend significant time in the Edinburgh half, taking full use of a sliced clearance kick to launch an attack from the subsequent line-out. But when it culminated in a penalty, Schifcofske’s poor kicking form continued as he pulled his effort wide of the posts.
    Yet the breakthrough was only around the corner. Bryn Cunningham’s chip into space created havoc in the Edinburgh defence and when Andrew Trimble snatched the loose ball, he found Cave who was able to put David Pollock clear and the flanker raced over for a try in the 25th minute. Schifcofske slotted the conversion and Ulster were finally up and running.
    A huge scrum by Ulster then turned over ball in the Edinburgh 22 but after charges by Ferris and Pollock, the home side conceded a penalty at the breakdown as the ball was moved wide without precision.
    Edinburgh were able to scramble to half-time without any further concession. Schifcofske missed another long-range penalty and just as Ferris had won a penalty in front of the posts with a ferocious tackle, it was reversed for a swinging arm after the whistle.
    And Edinburgh quickly made Ulster pay for their profligacy, with David Blair kicking two penalties in three minutes after the start of the second half.
    After Steinmetz and Robbie Diack had carved out an opening, Schifcofske slotted a penalty in the 53rd minute but then his wobbles returned when he pulled another straightforward attempt on the hour mark.
    When Niall O’Connor charged down a clearance kick by Mike Blair, Schifcofske at least got the chance to make amends when a scramble for the line ended in another Ulster penalty.
    Edinburgh however kept hanging on, and a Phil Godman penalty in the 72nd minute kept the visitors in the hunt, but this was Ulster’s night.
    Ulster: B Cunningham; C Schifcofske, D Cave, P Steinmetz, A Trimble; N O'Connor, C Willis (I Boss 41); T Court (J Fitzpatrick 60), R Best, (capt), BJ Botha, E O'Donoghue (C Del Fava 50), R Caldwell, S Ferris (M McCullough 75), D Pollock, R Diack.
    Edinburgh: J Thompson, J Houston, H Southwell, N De Luca, M Robertson, D Blair (P Godman 50), M Blair (capt) (G Laidlaw 69), A Jacobsen, A Kelly, (R Ford 40) G Kerr (G Cross 40), J Hamilton, B Gissing (C Hamilton 50), M Mustchin, A Hogg, S Newlands.
    Referee: C Damasco (FIR)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭John_C


    How did Willis play?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    John_C wrote: »
    How did Willis play?

    did very well in the first half by all accounts before going off injured. Not sure if the injury is serious, but people were saying he was definitely a better option than Boss. Hope it's nothing serious, he's a talented but very unlucky guy.

    (God remember when people used to be touting Boss for Ireland?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭John_C


    Thanks,
    Does anyone know if there were telly cameras at the game at all? Will there be highlights on at any stage?


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