Chemtrail Forecast

andrewlownie101

Hello,

I know a lot of people are very concerned with the chemical spraying that has been occuring in the last number of years. Although the department of defence refuses to comment, or even issue a denial for that matter, an american meteorologist has put up a site where he forecasts the spraying;

http://www.owsweather.com/contrailreport.html

Chemtrails are infact mentioned in HR 2977 ;

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html

Youtube also has a variety of videos where people have documented the evidence worldwide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOqk8kSzC38&feature=related

In my opinion the people need to address this issue immediately.

Conor108

I think you were looking for this place


EDIT: Oh my mistake, I thought I was in After Hours:D nevermind

conceited

Go away with your chemtrail ****e.

karlr42

Perhaps the reason the DOD don't issue a denial is that this is so very very silly, not real and clearly the product of someone's damaged mind? They don't issue denials of giant teacups in orbit of Plutu either, doesn't mean they exist.
A refusal to deny existense of something != proof it exists.

andrewlownie101

i would advise people to look at the forecast everyday. I have been monitoring his european map for the past two weeks and have found it to be very accurate.

aidan_walsh

And what methods have you been using to verify the accuracy?

andrewlownie101

aidan_walsh wrote: »

And what methods have you been using to verify the accuracy?

I have two eyes. I view the map in the morning and then keep an eye on the skies throughout the day.

When you actually study the issue at hand, it is very easy to identify the planes spraying and the ensuing clouds which gradually spread out into a haze. They stand out like a Paddy in Paris.

oscarBravo

What's his source for this data?

aidan_walsh

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

I have two eyes. I view the map in the morning and then keep an eye on the skies throughout the day.

When you actually study the issue at hand, it is very easy to identify the planes spraying and the ensuing clouds which gradually spread out into a haze. They stand out like a Paddy in Paris.

Oh. I thought there might have been some scientific process or chemical analysis going on, not just someone standing outside in the yard going "Oh God oh God oh God"...

meglome

You might start with some evidence that it actually exists then work from there.

conceited

You might start with some evidence that it actually exists then work from there.

I THINK THATS AGAINST THE RULES IN THIS FORUM.:D

meglome

conceited wrote: »

I THINK THATS AGAINST THE RULES IN THIS FORUM.:D

I often wonder if I've stumbled into the Fantasy and Sci-Fi forum and not the conspiracy theories forum.

andrewlownie101

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Oh. I thought there might have been some scientific process or chemical analysis going on, not just someone standing outside in the yard going "Oh God oh God oh God"...

Oh yeah, people should wait for the lads in white coats. And anyway many people have had the chemical fallout analysed. They have found massive doses of aluminium and barium.

Where is his souce data??? How would I know. Did I say would put my last pound on his analysis. I merely suggested that from my research he has proved to be largely accurate.

Wait, will be get the IPCC, NASA, the UN on the case. We have seen what they can do with data, look at the data manipulation they have engaged in with this global warming (sorry, climate change) scam.

In my opinion chemtrails along with HAARP are used to manipulate weather, causing the gullible to "believe". See the ENMOD treaty, signed 1978, weather modification is an old science, but like anything the plebs are not informed of the latest advances. Knowledge is power.

oscarBravo

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

Where is his souce data??? How would I know. Did I say would put my last pound on his analysis. I merely suggested that from my research he has proved to be largely accurate.

Aren't you even curious?

andrewlownie101

oscarBravo wrote: »

Aren't you even curious?

Well he is a meteorologist, so I would assume he has access to satellite imaging, and no, not the doctored stuff released by NASA. They have altered the images and lowered the resolution to diffuse unwanted questions.

He also mentions that he has a contact who provides information.

And to think, not a white coat anywhere.

karlr42

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

Wait, will be get the IPCC, NASA, the UN on the case. We have seen what they can do with data, look at the data manipulation they have engaged in with this global warming (sorry, climate change) scam.

So, is there a body whom you consider independent and trustworty, qualified to carry out tests on these "chemtrails"(the physical evidence), who, if they were to release a report on the true nature of these trails, you would accept as telling the truth?
Because if, in your opinion, no such body exists, this is all a waste of time, as you will be admitting that your beliefs are un-falsifiable, and obviously no amount of arguing or skepticism from us will change your mind or prompt a re-evaluation.

andrewlownie101

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

Oh yeah, people should wait for the lads in white coats. And anyway many people have had the chemical fallout analysed. They have found massive doses of aluminium and barium.
.

Oh really, care to share this research?

andrewlownie101

karlr42 wrote: »

So, is there a body whom you consider independent and trustworty, qualified to carry out tests on these "chemtrails"(the physical evidence), who, if they were to release a report on the true nature of these trails, you would accept as telling the truth?
Because if, in your opinion, no such body exists, this is all a waste of time, as you will be admitting that your beliefs are un-falsifiable, and obviously no amount of arguing or skepticism from us will change your mind or prompt a re-evaluation.

Back up the truck.

Of course there are trust worthy independent people, however there are not trust worthy institutions. Who pays the piper calls the tune, just look at the climate change scam, these boys are paid huge money to find a problem to jusfity their positions. It is social engineering on a large scale.

karlr42

Name these people.

andrewlownie101

King Mob wrote: »

Oh really, care to share this research?

have a read through this 8 part series

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1272

andrewlownie101

karlr42 wrote: »

Name these people.

I have friends in Canada and California who have had the fallout analysed.

Also this for the more I don't believe it unless it was on TV type of person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqTkyEbUojE

karlr42

I said independent, they can't be your friends. They are unlikely to perform a truly independent, unbiased test that disproves their own beliefs.

andrewlownie101

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

I have friends in Canada and California who have had the fallout analysed.

Really cause i have a friend has proved 100% that there no such thing as chemtrails. Weird.

andrewlownie101

karlr42 wrote: »

I said independent, they can't be your friends. They are unlikely to perform a truly independent, unbiased test that disproves their own beliefs.

What, are you saying that the greenies have no friends, if they did their tests would be invalid?

I see the boys are out spraying heavily this morning over north dublin. Kevin shows on his map for today that Ireland is to be heavily targetted.

The sky is currently a haze, a chemical mess.

Smudgeyboy

I second that.

I got pictorial evidence from 9.00am onwards today (ongoing) of spraying going from thick lines on a lovely blue canvas, to wider hazes and eventually white sky over the midlands, friends called me saying same.

Will post up in a while.

Ciaran500

Smudgeyboy wrote: »

I second that.

I got pictorial evidence from 9.00am onwards today (ongoing) of spraying going from thick lines on a lovely blue canvas, to wider hazes and eventually white sky over the midlands, friends called me saying same.

Will post up in a while.

You mean the cloud that has been drifting in from the North?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/cloud.shtml#no_url

EDIT: Just had a look at the forcasting maps and LOL. He's just using the weather forcast to predict where there will be cloud forming around the world.

conceited

You lads are tormented.
He is using the pressure and the temps because that whats causes the clouds.

Smudgeyboy

conceited wrote: »

You lads are tormented.
He is using the pressure and the temps because that whats causes the clouds.

My pics should say otherwise, will be on later

oscarBravo

You have pictures that show that clouds weren't formed by natural processes?

This should be good.

Smudgeyboy

oscarBravo wrote: »

You have pictures that show that clouds weren't formed by natural processes?

This should be good.

Oh haha arent you clever.

humanji

But isn't that what you've just claimed your photos will show?

karlr42

Smudgeyboy wrote: »

Oh haha arent you clever.

Yes, he is.
And he was right, if you can prove to us that these clouds that aren't naturally formed, we'll be making progress.

andrewlownie101

Ciaran500 wrote: »

You mean the cloud that has been drifting in from the North?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/cloud.shtml#no_url

EDIT: Just had a look at the forcasting maps and LOL. He's just using the weather forcast to predict where there will be cloud forming around the world.

conceited wrote: »

You lads are tormented.
He is using the pressure and the temps because that whats causes the clouds.

All you little guys with your scientific analysis. Well, the foundation stone of science is testing and observation. Applying this to your misguided posts, you have observed one chemtrail forecast and consequently found a cloud formation. You have then concluded that the two are connected, and applied this theory to all his forecasts even though you have no previous knowledge of what he predicted.

Can you name a day when no clouds were formed in this country????

I have been following his forecasts for over two weeks, on many occasions he has shown a map with no spraying, even though the skys have been clouded over.


Kevin has predicted heavy spraying over this weekend.

Ciaran500

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

I have been following his forecasts for over two weeks, on many occasions he has shown a map with no spraying, even though the skys have been clouded over.

Well that just proves it. Maybe he got to lazy to make the maps on that day or maybe he didn't predict spraying to make it more convincing. Like it has done to you.

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

Kevin has predicted heavy spraying over this weekend.

And the forcast is cloudy too.

How do you think he makes the maps then if Kevin is in Ontario? He must use meteorlogical maps.

andrewlownie101

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Well that just proves it. Maybe he got to lazy to make the maps on that day or maybe he didn't predict spraying to make it more convincing. Like it has done to you.

For those with eyes to see, and ears to hear.

Ciaran500 wrote: »

How do you think he makes the maps then if Kevin is in Ontario? He must use meteorlogical maps.

I would say so, that is his job afterall.

conceited

"It's the meteorlogical conditons which create the trails"



Leave your house at some stage and go for a walk.
You will notice ryanair flying overhead of occaision .These aeroplanes leave a trail of water vapour, which, when the weather conditions are right, will leave a trail in the sky for hours. You need to give us evidence as your the one making the claim.

Below is a picture showing the actions of water on our plkanet.
Now since water is "everywhere" and air pressure and temps play a huge role on cloud formation why dont you come back to us with scientific data to prove your case.
Otherwise your just a spoonfed middleman relaying rubbish.

andrewlownie101

conceited wrote: »

"It's the meteorlogical conditons which create the trails"



Leave your house at some stage and go for a walk.
You will notice ryanair flying overhead of occaision .These aeroplanes leave a trail of water vapour, which, when the weather conditions are right, will leave a trail in the sky for hours. You need to give us evidence as your the one making the claim.

Below is a picture showing the actions of water on our plkanet.
Now since water is "everywhere" and air pressure and temps play a huge role on cloud formation why dont you come back to us with scientific data to prove your case.

You answered you own question there, mate. I have seen chemtrails in all types of conditions.

Get out of the house and go for a walk??

Mate, science has been degraded to the point of laughter. I only trust my own perceptions, I know what contrails were like in the past, I know what clouds look like. You see, you lot are upgraded as time moves along. If tomorrow the white coats said that CO2 caused global cooling, you would all jump on that bandwagon.

conceited

Are you a BRIT?

andrewlownie101

conceited wrote: »

Are you a BRIT?

If you are referring to british, no I'm not a BRIT.

"mate", thats how I refer to people who I don't like. Tends to have the desired effect, would you agree?

conceited

Well if you don't like me thats fine. Just keep it to yourself.
I sent you a pm if you want to be mature and talk about it away from the boards.

humanji

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

If you are referring to british, no I'm not a BRIT.

"mate", thats how I refer to people who I don't like. Tends to have the desired effect, would you agree?

It just makes you seem Australian, tbh.

oscarBravo

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

All you little guys with your scientific analysis. Well, the foundation stone of science is testing and observation.

Right, but the testing has to be repeatable and falsifiable. In other words, for a test to be scientific it needs to set out a set of conditions that can be independently re-created, with a predicted outcome that can be reliably observed.

Someone is putting maps on the Internet and saying "these are predictions of chemtrail spraying". They are vague and imprecise, and happen to broadly coincide with reasonable meteorological forecasts for cloud cover.

I'm not saying he's using standard meteorological techniques to forecast cloud cover; I'm saying it's a plausible explanation for what he seems to be doing. The question is, why are you so keen to believe that he has inside information into the source of all this alleged spraying, without any evidence for it?

Those of us who have expressed skepticism have repeatedly asked: how come nobody seems to know who's doing this spraying, and where they're operating from? Now we have someone who allegedly knows this. Why isn't he sharing the information? Why just drawing maps?

andrewlownie101

oscarBravo wrote: »

. The question is, why are you so keen to believe that he has inside information into the source of all this alleged spraying, without any evidence for it?

I am in no way keen. As I have repeatedly said, I have viewed hos forecasts and then observed the skies for signs of chemical spraying. I have found a correlation.

oscarBravo wrote: »

Those of us who have expressed skepticism have repeatedly asked: how come nobody seems to know who's doing this spraying, and where they're operating from? Now we have someone who allegedly knows this. Why isn't he sharing the information? Why just drawing maps?

Well, if these questions could be easily answered, would we be having this debate?

I would assume he is not sharing the information because he does not want to "out" the source. Simple concept to grasp, or so I thought.

The simple facts are that this chemical spraying is occuring on an almost daily basis.

conceited

The simple facts are, you don't have any.

andrewlownie101

Kevin's latest forecast is up. No spray is predicted. I have been observing the skies for the last two hours, and there has been no spraying.

Although there are plenty of normal clouds, there is no chemical haze induced by chemtrail deposits.

Ciaran500

And surprisingly BBC's chemtrail report is very similar to Kevins.

Gordon

I reckon the OP is this Kevin guy (or his mate Joshua Young) that is trying to spread fear via boards.ie so that people can sign on to his website and view his google ads and money ads and create income for him. Therefore I believe the OP is dispersing his web address across the internet in hope that some percentage of people will believe the claims and revisit his website generating him income. It's a conspiracy.

andrewlownie101

Ciaran500 wrote: »

And surprisingly BBC's chemtrail report is very similar to Kevins.

How about you post the european map from the same site. It proves my point, he is not linking chemtrails to normal cloud cover. As I have said, there are plenty of clouds today, yet no chemical haze.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/west_europe/cloud.shtml

Partial information can be misleading, mate.

andrewlownie101

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

How about you post the european map from the same site. It proves my point, he is not linking chemtrails to normal cloud cover. As I have said, there are plenty of clouds today, yet no chemical haze.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/west_europe/cloud.shtml

Partial information can be misleading, mate.

So if there are no clouds or "chemical haze" what is kevin's map showing?

andrewlownie101

King Mob wrote: »

So if there are no clouds or "chemical haze" what is kevin's map showing?

If you were to read my post, you would realise I am referring to the lack of spraying over Ireland, as predicted by his map. I have no idea if they are spraying elsewhere in Europe where he has predicted spraying.

Is that a difficult concept to grasp??

andrewlownie101

andrewlownie101 wrote: »

If you were to read my post, you would realise I am referring to the lack of spraying over Ireland, as predicted by his map. I have no idea if they are spraying elsewhere in Europe where he has predicted spraying.

Is that a difficult concept to grasp??

So is in fact consistent with the cloud cover shown on the BCC website?

You never elaborated on "your friend in California" who analysed the supposed fallout. Any chance you can back any of that it?