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An interesting article I read recently

  • 29-09-2008 11:36pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I came across an article in an online journal last night. Basically it was saying that the holocaust was 'god's wrath' as much as anything else. Having read it I could see where they got their idea from. I personally think the christianity and the bible are a complete work of fiction and this interpretation is not my opinion.

    Here is an extract:
    God made the terms of His relationship with the Jews perfectly clear in
    the sacred scriptures He inspired their holy men to write. According to
    Deuteronomy 28:1-3: "And if you obey the voice of the Lord your God, being
    careful to do al his commandments... Blessed shall you be in the city and
    blessed you shall be in the field."

    On the other hand, Deuteronomy 28:58-59 warns: "If you are not careful to
    do all the words of this law... the Lord your God will bring on you and your
    offspring extraordinary afflictions, afflictions severe and lasting."

    These scripture are so clear a child could understand. God promises the
    Jews blessings for obedience, but SEVERE PUNISHMENT if they disobey!

    Now the gassings, burnings, starvation and disease of the Nazi death camps
    were not blessings on the Jews. They were not getting the blessings God
    promised for obedience, so it is obvious that they must have been DISOBEDIENT!
    And as disobedient sinners, they fully deserved the SEVERE PUNISHMENT God
    promised to bring upon them and their offspring!

    How obvious it becomes then, that Auschwitz, Dachau and Treblinka were
    divine punishments for sin - the "EXTRAORDINARY AFFLICTIONS" that God warned of
    in the Bible!

    I'm interested to see what others think of this opinion. Please refrain from posting if you simply dislike their point of view, I want to know what you think of this interpretation of the bible.

    I personally think the christianity and the bible are a complete work of fiction and this interpretation is not my opinion.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    I think that interpretation of the Bible stinks.

    I prefer Jesus' interpretation:
    Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them - do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. (Luke 13:1-5)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Hi,

    I came across an article in an online journal last night. Basically it was saying that the holocaust was 'god's wrath' as much as anything else. Having read it I could see where they got their idea from. I don't think it matters whether or not it was 'god's wrath' or not.

    Here is an extract:



    I'm interested to see what others think of this opinion. Please refrain from posting if you simply dislike their point of view, I want to know what you think of this interpretation of the bible.

    Seems to be a bog standard twisted interpretation of a very vague biblical passage. Almost Nostradamus like in its openness to retrospective re-intrepretation.

    I can see where the get the idea from too, a potent mixture of a big book, lots of time to read it over and over again and antisemitism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    marco_polo wrote: »
    Seems to be a bog standard twisted interpretation of a very vague biblical passage. Almost Nostradamus like in its openness to retrospective re-intrepretation.

    I can see where the get the idea from too, a potent mixture of a big book, lots of time to read it over and over again and antisemitism.

    I should point out that the interpretation is not that of a theist, but is rather one devised by Jason Rosendale (an atheist) for the specific purpose of attacking Christianity.

    I will charitably assume that the OP's failure to mention that little detail was an oversight and not an act of deliberate deception.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    PDN wrote: »
    I should point out that the interpretation is not that of a theist, but is rather one devised by Jason Rosendale (an atheist) for the specific purpose of attacking Christianity.

    I will charitably assume that the OP's failure to mention that little detail was an oversight and not an act of deliberate deception.

    Honestly wasn't having a dig at anyone PDN , I don't do cheap shots (except on the soccer forum :)). Although I did think it must have been the handiwork a nutter extremist like Rev Phelps, so that an atheist wrote is very interesting indeed. Though I presume that that was the authors intent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭RoosterIllusion


    I found the article here

    I found it by chance while browsing totse.com (usually populated by unusual people). I didn't include or remove anything deliberately, I know next to nothing about the bible bar what I have been introduced to through education etc so I don't really stand on either side of the fence towards it's relationship to the holocaust.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    I'm pretty sure that blame should be laid squarely at the feet of an odious little Austrian fella and a whole bunch of complicit Germans.


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