SGA 5x10: First Contact **SPOILERS**

Mr E

Mid-season 2 parter.... second part in 2 weeks.

Daniel Jackson visits Atlantis to do some research on the Ancient scientist Janus.

Mr E

Holy shit.

Safe to say that Atlantis is being cut down in its prime. Easily the best episode of Season 5, maybe best episode ever. Funny, serious, dramatic, action packed, a great new enemy, and a couple of fantastic cliffhangers. Bravo.

Venom

Really amazing episode and easly one of the best. New villans, Daniel, Todd, Sheppard and bugger all Teyla and Ronan

Sherifu

Best Atlantis ever. Everything you expect from top notch stargate. Sublime.

Catsmokinpot

Hoooooly shiiiiiiiiit! :cool:

Guess I'll have to wait until next week :pac:

token56

Brilliant just brilliant.

Thank god the break is only for two weeks. I couldn't wait much longer.

Catsmokinpot

token56 wrote: »

Thank god the break is only for two weeks. I couldn't wait much longer.

two weeks?

ah well it could be worse!

krpc

Good episode!

ixoy

Loved it of course. It started off on the right note when I got a guest star who I didn't know was coming and kept building from there.

Jackson fitted better into Atlantis than Carter did and, as has been said before, his presence makes more sense. I had forgotten how fast he talks at times! Martin Gero has always had a very good ear for dialogue and this episode was no exception, with just the right level of wit coming from all the characters.

The new enemy are interesting - their SWAT-team assault on Atlantis was one of the best action sequences in SG-A's history. The fact they haven't a clue who they are works well and leaves a nice little cliff-hanger.

The peace accord with Todd was interesting and watching it inevitably fall apart - but I love the fact that it wasn't Todd who betrayed him but (from his POV), the humans who betrayed him. Nice defensive action on his part.

The thing with the gate at the end - what was that about? I liked it, and I think we can assume our crew (including Zelenka) are safe but what caused it?

Lots of questions and lots of possibilities and it confirms to me that S5 is starting to show a lot of promise that we didn't see last year. Shsme it's all going.

Overheal

I was way too concerned with the presidential debate last night - i totally forgot this was on.

ixoy

Overheal wrote: »

I was way too concerned with the presidential debate last night - i totally forgot this was on.

Loser - get a life

Overheal

"I doesnt leak harmful radiation.......does it?"

This may just be, the best episode of Stargate Ever. Definitely Atlantis's best.

I'm left dumbfounded until next week. signing the Save Stargate Atlantis petition now.

TimTim

ixoy wrote: »

The thing with the gate at the end - what was that about? I liked it, and I think we can assume our crew (including Zelenka) are safe but what caused it?

I'm guessing that amount of energy that subspace static generator is putting out has a similar frequency to what the stargate works on, so when its on, it causes energy to build up in the gate rapidly and explode.

Similar to the Anubis gate overloader (i think) but on a galaxy wide scale?

edit: er yeah, brilliant episode too.

Ivan

Yeah, really quite good. But I get the feeling that the consequences that this episode should provide, wont appear.

The Wraith wont be severely crippled by the number of ships that go into hyperspace during this time frame and explode and Stargates wont go exploding all over the galaxy either. I think it will all just get brushed under the carpet with perhaps an odd mention here or there.

I only mention this, because it is the only thing that would stop me giving this full 5/5.

Nukem

Giggity, Giggity - great Ep.
Bloody 2week break my arse:mad:

J-blk

Excellent episode indeed and very much so the best one of the season so far. I'm afraid though Ivan is right and the repercussions of this two parter will not be as far reaching as they might have been if the show was not ending this season. Loved the banter between McKay and Jackson (McKay: Are you payed more than I am? ) and the very cool raid of the lab as well as Todd's reaction to his ships being destroyed.

One more reason to hate Sanctuary: it's why we won't be getting a new episode next week...

Overheal

Nukem wrote: »

Giggity, Giggity - great Ep.
Bloody 2week break my arse:mad:

:eek:

JohnK

I'm thinking if we had this kind of episode last season Atlantis wouldn’t have been cancelled :pac:

Great to see Jackson again - himself & Rodney are my favourite characters so having both in one episode :eek:

Its going to be hell waiting two weeks

ixoy

JohnK wrote: »

Its going to be hell waiting two weeks

I've to wait three - I'm on holidays! Even though I'm going to the States, I can't watch it there as the OH is approximately 8 seasons behind (and I'll probably want to go out and do things as well. And they mightn't even have Sci-Fi in the hotel).

don ramo

how can they cancel it, its juts like enterprise, just as there getting in the grove, they cancel it, i hate sci-fi why did they sell it to them,

look at all the great scifi shows that didnt get into there groves untill season 3-4 all the star treks, andromeda, BSG etc,

sci-fi channel are scum and mgm are worse for agreeing with them

don ramo

BTW f***ing great episode

User45701

ixoy wrote: »

The thing with the gate at the end - what was that about? I liked it, and I think we can assume our crew (including Zelenka) are safe but what caused it?

TimTim wrote: »

I'm guessing that amount of energy that subspace static generator is putting out has a similar frequency to what the stargate works on, so when its on, it causes energy to build up in the gate rapidly and explode.

Similar to the Anubis gate overloader (i think) but on a galaxy wide scale?

edit: er yeah, brilliant episode too.

Thats what i assumed which as ivan pointed out should mean nukes going off all over the galaxy as stargates are activtated and wraith taking massive loses, however it was hinted thry could just lie dormant. It is interesting though todd is now the only wraith with hyperdrive tech

Ron DMC

This episode has totally redeemed Atlantis. I reckon the show is definitely going to end on a high at this stage.

MarkR

Excellent episode, do you think they got teleported away in the nick of time, or some kind of handy personal shield device?

If they come out from under a table and brush themselves off I'll throw something!

JohnK

My guess is that at the last second they moved the shield away from the gate and onto themselves. Since it then wouldnt be trying to contain the energy from the gate it would have had just enough power to last the few seconds required to protect them from the explosion.

The Gnome

MarkR wrote: »

Excellent episode, do you think they got teleported away in the nick of time, or some kind of handy personal shield device?

If they come out from under a table and brush themselves off I'll throw something!

I'm hoping they refocused the shield to direct the blast, fairly sick of last minute teleporting etc. Having said that Todd may have arrived in the nick of time to "capture" Sheppard and thus teleported him away...

I'm more interested in who the new guys are. Completly new race? Micheal and his soldiers after finding some cool tech? Atlantis team from the future? Either way I like the cut of their jib.

Best episode for a long time.

MarkR

JohnK wrote: »

My guess is that at the last second they moved the shield away from the gate and onto themselves. Since it then wouldnt be trying to contain the energy from the gate it would have had just enough power to last the few seconds required to protect them from the explosion.

I see your shield transfer, and raise you an overturned table AND a cut eyebrow. Good theory, that'll probably be it.

They'll probably be buried for a few minutes too, to add to the suspense.

JohnK

You're definitely onto a winner with the cut-eyebrow I think

alastair_doom

The 2 times they raised the shields in the ep it seems painfully slow, and not sure if they can have 2 shields (one for the lads, one for the gate) while the transfer takes place. My guess is they somehow had enough time to bring down the jumper they had ready and flew away.

That new race, they seemed almost replicator like in their one mindedness, and it was hinted that their ship could do things ancient ships could, and Shepherd suggested that they could be robots, so I'm guessing they're replicator prototypes designed by 'that dude' to protect his stuff and destroy the wraith, but had the same flaw as the replicators, the disregard for human life.

Interesting to see if they can apply 'Avenger' in conjunction with this new anti wraith weapon, to take out the wraith without putting anyone in harms way. Probably not tho.

</crazy theories>

Overheal

Implementing Avenger with the Lantean Device would destroy millions of Pegasus Galaxy inhabitants and destroy the entire Pegasus gate network. Insanity.

alastair_doom

Overheal wrote: »

Implementing Avenger with the Lantean Device would destroy millions of Pegasus Galaxy inhabitants and destroy the entire Pegasus gate network. Insanity.

Wasnt Avenger the thing that just made it so the gates couldnt be used? So they couldnt be activated, and not explode, killing everyone? From what i saw of the device, it only exploded the gate when the wormhole was activated, which wouldnt be possible.

I'm sure the people of Paegasus would gladly give up holidaying on another planet for a few years, in exchange for not have their children eaten?

The Gnome

Hmmmm just found who the "new" race is. Not gonna spill the beans here as it's a major spoiler, it's on youtube if you really want to know.

All I have to say is: What?! Disappointing.

User45701

alastair_doom wrote: »

Wasnt Avenger the thing that just made it so the gates couldnt be used? So they couldnt be activated, and not explode, killing everyone? From what i saw of the device, it only exploded the gate when the wormhole was activated, which wouldnt be possible.

I'm sure the people of Paegasus would gladly give up holidaying on another planet for a few years, in exchange for not have their children eaten?

if you acivated every gate in the pegasus at the same time it would work

don ramo

could be only atlantis gate seeing as how its the only one capable of dialing milkyway, you know john and zalenka got out,

what will todd do now, he could take out the attero device, and all the wraith could destroy atlantis as they have no means of escape only puddle jumpers

Overheal

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

This episode has totally redeemed Atlantis. I reckon the show is definitely going to end on a high at this stage.

thats what we said about SG-1, and we got a killing off the asgard and a magical reset button episode. Yeah. Dont count on anything.

User45701

don ramo wrote: »

could be only atlantis gate seeing as how its the only one capable of dialing milkyway, you know john and zalenka got out

huh?

i dont think so because over 10,000 years ago when the attero device was first tested they mentioned unforseen side effects, im assuming it causes every gate that dials out to go boom.

don ramo wrote: »

what will todd do now, he could take out the attero device, and all the wraith could destroy atlantis as they have no means of escape only puddle jumpers

Im assuming he wont care about the attero device, if he uses the deadalus he is the only wraith who can travel at hyperspace - thats a massive advantage over the other hives. However without hyperdrive wraith will die - fast as well i dont think they store/stock that many humans. The wraith on Todd's hiveship will have no choice but to now take the gene therepy because the time it would take to fly off in the deadalus, cull a planet, cram the ship full of people - back to the hive - feed and then start over and this is only one hive - not to mention the remaining hives in todds alliance will also need food.

or something else - what if todd decides to just leave pagasus he could backwards engineer human hyperdrive tech for wraith ships (second galaxy to the right, and straight on till morning)

alastair_doom

User45701 wrote: »

Im assuming he wont care about the attero device, if he uses the deadalus he is the only wraith who can travel at hyperspace - thats a massive advantage over the other hives. However without hyperdrive wraith will die - fast as well i dont think they store/stock that many humans. The wraith on Todd's hiveship will have no choice but to now take the gene therepy because the time it would take to fly off in the deadalus, cull a planet, cram the ship full of people - back to the hive - feed and then start over and this is only one hive - not to mention the remaining hives in todds alliance will also need food.

They'd have just as much trouble with normal food as they would with eating humans. Besides, didnt the wraith (mostly) spend years in hibrination between mass cullings? I always thought that was so they wouldnt have to eat.

Cant see him going to Atlantis, as he knows they're well defended. But if he got the Auterro device for he could turn it off to move his own ships around together, then turn it back on when hes not travelling to catch the enemy hive ships and keep them seperate.

Overheal

Okay stop calling the Attero device. Its the Alterran device, after "The Alterrans".

The Gnome

*cough* Attero Device *cough*

Overheal

The Gnome wrote: »

*cough* Attero Device *cough*

**SPOILER ALERT**

Links contained in the article are a fecking spoiler as to who the new race seen in First contact is. Not youre fault, but im just letting anyone know

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

damnit

i read the spoiler, reasoning that I don't give a **** about atlantis anyway so it wouldn't really matter

and god damn, that's ****ing awesome. I wish I hadn't read it

The Gnome

Overheal wrote: »

**SPOILER ALERT**

Links contained in the article are a fecking spoiler as to who the new race seen in First contact is. Not youre fault, but im just letting anyone know

Crap weasel. Didn't notice the link. Apologies:o


....still, you should have resisted the temptation...

Overheal

I assumed it referred to the planet full of children from season 1 so i was like wtf? clearly though, that was not the case.

Sherifu

Haven't read spoilers \o/

*keeps head down till next ep*

Mahatma coat

OK lads avoid the spoilers, but what a twist!!!!! whoaa, so dont read the spoilers cos wot as ben seen canot be unseeeen

jor el

I read the spoiler, it's not the worst. I wonder how far into the next episode we'll have to go before it's revealed?

Anyway, that was a damn good episode, and really shows why SG:A shouldn't be canceled. The new alien, Daniel and McKay's interaction (Daniel should have been in SG:A all along), Todd taking over the Daedalus, exploding Stargates, so much. Lets just hope part two lives up to this, and, as others have said, that the repercussions of this aren't completely ignored in the following episodes.

alastair_doom

Damn it, all those warnings just make me want to read the spoilers more

Thor

Absolute Excellent Episode.

really cant wait for the next.

Really was a very good episode for stargate atlantis and i cant wait to see how it turns out.

SUBLIME ATLANTIS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!

Overheal

alastair_doom wrote: »

Damn it, all those warnings just make me want to read the spoilers more

DO NOT!

aidan_walsh

I must be the only one underwhelmed with yet another "blow **** up" cliffhanger. The whole thing with the gate made little sense to me, but I'll wait and see how they explain it away. Not sure how a city wide defensive system can suddenly be turned on a single object in a room, seemed a bit of a cop out to me.

Overheal

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I must be the only one underwhelmed with yet another "blow **** up" cliffhanger. The whole thing with the gate made little sense to me, but I'll wait and see how they explain it away. Not sure how a city wide defensive system can suddenly be turned on a single object in a room, seemed a bit of a cop out to me.

oh were all underwhelmed dont get me wrong. theyve pulled that card too many times. but i imagine it has something to do with the forcefield emitters already in place around the gate, maybe they just channled more power from the zpm and city shield generators into that system.