One 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency ..

zod · 26-09-2008 11:01pm #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKhp8PQ9_Mk

Wow :eek:

sink · 26-09-2008 11:12pm

And yet republicans still somehow attempt to defend her. Blaming the criticism she receives on the fact that she's a woman. Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza Rice are intelligent female American politicians. This woman is a dumbass and is not qualified to be a governor never mind vice-president or even potentially the president.

Ponster · 26-09-2008 11:28pm

You know I feel sorry for her. It's obvious that VP of the USA is too high a post for her with her current level of experiance yet she's been sucked into this and is doing the best that she can. Het best may not be good enough but I really do feel for the women.

Lirange · 26-09-2008 11:46pm

Still nowhere near as inept or clumsy as W.

I don't think she's dumb just grotesquely uninformed on too many issues. My main concern is the fact that she's further right than Countess Bathory. :pac:

skelliser · 26-09-2008 11:54pm

reminded me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Overheal · 27-09-2008 12:15am

zod wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKhp8PQ9_Mk

Wow :eek:

How do you feel about banana hammocks Mrs. Palin?

Palin: I absolutely love pickles. We need more pickles. Have you ever put pickles into your waffle batter? Its better than sex and I know a thing or two about sex its all about field dressing the moose before you shore up the economy.

Sqaull20 · 27-09-2008 12:17am

What is she suppose to say in fairness?

Those kinda figures fly over 99.99% of our heads.

It does make you stop and put some perspective on these numbers that are being thrown around, like 700 billion seconds ago it was 2006 years ago/ 02 AD :eek:

Giving that kinda money to any purpose, just breeds even more corruption.I couldnt answer that question without talking sh$t, I doubt anyone could.

Remeber D. Rumsfeld telling congress years ago that they couldn't account for 2.5 trillion.

Overheal · 27-09-2008 12:17am

skelliser wrote: »

reminded me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Now living in SC, this saddens me greatly.

Although I wonder how easy it would be to convince her to stick something in her mouth. blindfolded and bound.

Rowley Birkin QC · 27-09-2008 2:29am

Wow, that is pretty ridiculous alrite. At least she didn't mention God.

zod · 02-10-2008 6:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yOWj18rc3M

sink · 02-10-2008 6:08pm

MSNBC is to the left what FOX news is to the right.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 02-10-2008 6:11pm

not the entire network, just olbermann, maddow, matthews and gregory.

scarborough4lyfe

zod · 02-10-2008 6:28pm

sink wrote: »

MSNBC is to the left what FOX news is to the right.

Seems CNN are too ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ds3GS6MeuQ

Hobbes · 02-10-2008 6:33pm

sink wrote: »

MSNBC is to the left what FOX news is to the right.

I wouldn't put FOX in the same area of stations that actually report the news. Some parts of MSNBC are far left leaning (in US scale), but they don't have make straight out lies that Fox News does.

I like how you dismissed the video based on the station though. Most of it is just showing McCain talking.

I mean watch the video!! He claims her PTA experience makes her a viable VP and that he hasn't heard of any news of people thinking Palin is no way near experienced despite polls say otherwise.

Hobbes · 02-10-2008 6:37pm

zod wrote: »

Seems CNN are too ..

"reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Stephen Colbert.

sink · 02-10-2008 6:42pm

Hobbes wrote: »

I wouldn't put FOX in the same area of stations that actually report the news. Some parts of MSNBC are far left leaning (in US scale), but they don't have make straight out lies that Fox News does.

I like how you dismissed the video based on the station though. Most of it is just showing McCain talking.

I mean watch the video!! He claims her PTA experience makes her a viable VP and that he hasn't heard of any news of people thinking Palin is no way near experienced despite polls say otherwise.

I am not dismissing the report i'm just adding the fact that the source is completely biased. I have a strong distaste for Palin and think she is way out of her depth but that doesn't mean I don't look upon news sources who are in the tank for one candidate or the other with suspicion. Oh and btw I am a social liberal.

The Mad Hatter · 04-10-2008 5:04pm

What I find impressive about that clip is that Couric managed to keep a straight face right throughout Palin's ramble answer, and not just simply stare agog as it got messier and messier.

zod · 11-10-2008 6:44pm

Alaskans on Palin..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bL0VbVCaA

Overheal · 11-10-2008 7:51pm

Yay, two intelligent americans! with boobs!

MagicMarker · 11-10-2008 8:01pm

She's still really hot.....

.... for a vulcan.

Our man in Havana · 11-10-2008 10:36pm

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of common sense.

MisterAnarchy · 11-10-2008 11:58pm

Hobbes wrote: »

I wouldn't put FOX in the same area of stations that actually report the news. Some parts of MSNBC are far left leaning (in US scale), but they don't have make straight out lies that Fox News does.

CNN are ultra left wing .
Their coverage is more biased than Fox News from what I have seen.
Their post analysis of the debate this week was scurrilous and frankly insulting to peoples intelligence.

Trojan · 12-10-2008 12:00am

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

CNN are ultra left wing .
Their coverage is more biased than Fox News from what I have seen.
Their post analysis of the debate this week was scurrilous and frankly insulting to peoples intelligence.

You've got to be joking. I think CNN are a poor news channel (I know of at least 2 instances where they have faked "live footage from XYZ warzone") but they're definitely not "ultra left wing".

jmayo · 12-10-2008 8:45am

zod wrote: »

Alaskans on Palin..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bL0VbVCaA

My faith in middle America and Alaska has been somewhat restored by those two ladies

The Mad Hatter · 12-10-2008 9:15am

jmayo wrote: »

My faith in middle America and Alaska has been somewhat restored by those two ladies

Check out The Mudflats for a few more.

pickarooney · 12-10-2008 10:04am

The Steve Staunton of US politics.

Pocono Joe · 12-10-2008 10:28am

Overheal wrote: »

Yay, two intelligent americans! with boobs!

Or two boobs that happen to be Americans.

Overheal · 12-10-2008 5:20pm

*cough* - theres 4 boobs pictured...

CNN left leaning, most likely. Ultra Left Regime? Hardly.

Still if you're going to blame the couric interviews on being misrepresented on the left, even the right-wing admitted they were a disaster.

Trojan · 12-10-2008 7:00pm

What's interesting is that Palin said at a rally that she was unable to answer because she was so angry (don't have the source but have seen it on video). I think she's being quite generous to herself there, but clever way to spin it to fans desperate to believe it.

Lemming · 12-10-2008 7:20pm

Overheal wrote: »

CNN left leaning, most likely. Ultra Left Regime? Hardly.

It's been remarked upon before over the years on the politics forum about the US media's stance. Most stations (I would include CNN in "most") are actually centre-right, i.e. they're relatively "sane and normal" albeit slightly conservative on the whole. It's just that Fox is so far over to the right that it makes the rest of the media seem left-wing or some such.

is_that_so · 12-10-2008 8:11pm

zod wrote: »

Alaskans on Palin..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bL0VbVCaA

Gotta get me some more of that sharp political insight. :rolleyes: If they really had anything useful or insightful beyond the undergraduate babbling, it would have been all over and done with, inside 2 minutes. TBH find that kind of dim-witted nonsense worse than the so-called "Middle America idiots" who have been much criticised here, because people offering it actually think they are clever. Much, much better sources out there to explain what the problem with Palin is.

Inquitus · 12-10-2008 8:14pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Gotta get me some more of that sharp political insight. :rolleyes: If they really had anything useful or insightful beyond the undergraduate babbling, it would have been all over and done with, inside 2 minutes. TBH find that kind of dim-witted nonsense worse than the so-called "Middle America idiots" who have been much criticised here, because people offering it actually think they are clever. Much, much better sources out there to explain why Palin could be a problem.

I bet they could name more than 1 supreme court ruling....unlike a certain VP candidate :rolleyes:

Middle American feckwits like the woman who asked McCain if Obama was an Ayrab at a townhall during the week?

is_that_so · 12-10-2008 8:18pm

This sounds like playground logic. Neither of these examples offer any evidence as to what Middle America is or is not.

These two women are random individuals with very incoherent,random thoughts who have been posted here with a suggested degree of credibility simply because they come from Alaska. As I said much better stuff out there.

Trojan · 13-10-2008 4:01am

is_that_so wrote: »

These two women are random individuals with very incoherent,random thoughts who have been posted here with a suggested degree of credibility simply because they come from Alaska. As I said much better stuff out there.

I agree with you. But what p!sses me off to no end is the complete inconsistency here. If they came up with solid logical arguments they'd have been attacked as being part of the "liberal media elite", or some other crap like that.

The inconsistency was nicely portrayed by the Daily Show where they had clips of the what people thought the 2 VP candidates had to do to be considered a winner.

Biden: "be respectful to Palin", "call her Governer Palin, not Sarah", "get his points across clearly", "don't make any gaffs", "don't come across as a bully", and on and on.

Palin: "speak in English (if possible)".

Why are the Republican candidates ALWAYS held to lower standards?

GuanYin · 13-10-2008 5:34am

is_that_so wrote: »

Gotta get me some more of that sharp political insight. :rolleyes: If they really had anything useful or insightful beyond the undergraduate babbling, it would have been all over and done with, inside 2 minutes. TBH find that kind of dim-witted nonsense worse than the so-called "Middle America idiots" who have been much criticised here, because people offering it actually think they are clever. Much, much better sources out there to explain what the problem with Palin is.

They're voters. They're voters from a demograph and area that is being portrayed to the world as 100% behind Palin.

They don't need to be intelligent, they don't need to have sharp political insight to be damaging to Palin.

What everyone here seems to ignore is that every single voter's opinion is as important as the next. This just shows that Alaskan's don't all fall in behind Palin.

If one thing is true about political beliefs, it is that they are almost always inherited.

The Mad Hatter · 13-10-2008 2:23pm

Overheal wrote: »

*cough* - theres 4 boobs pictured...

Boob in the older sense of 'fool', I believe he meant.

Lemming wrote: »

It's been remarked upon before over the years on the politics forum about the US media's stance. Most stations (I would include CNN in "most") are actually centre-right, i.e. they're relatively "sane and normal" albeit slightly conservative on the whole. It's just that Fox is so far over to the right that it makes the rest of the media seem left-wing or some such.

From what I remember of CNN, they are centre-right. Haven't watched it for years, though.

Overheal · 13-10-2008 4:30pm

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

From what I remember of CNN, they are centre-right. Haven't watched it for years, though.

Not according to the right, but thats because you have people like hannity limbaugh savage and o'reilly telling their listeners that CNN and other news stations are the enemy.

smartypants · 13-10-2008 4:34pm

zod wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKhp8PQ9_Mk

Wow :eek:

id still lob one into that :cool:

The Mad Hatter · 13-10-2008 5:07pm

Overheal wrote: »

Not according to the right, but thats because you have people like hannity limbaugh savage and o'reilly telling their listeners that CNN and other news stations are the enemy.

Well yes, but I meant according to sensible people.

is_that_so · 13-10-2008 10:02pm

GuanYin wrote: »

They're voters. They're voters from a demograph and area that is being portrayed to the world as 100% behind Palin.

They don't need to be intelligent, they don't need to have sharp political insight to be damaging to Palin.

What everyone here seems to ignore is that every single voter's opinion is as important as the next. This just shows that Alaskan's don't all fall in behind Palin.

If one thing is true about political beliefs, it is that they are almost always inherited.

Indeed they are and are fully entitled to their opinion although this 100% support is not a perception I ever had of Palin.

My original comments had more to do with the credibility of this video as a valid commentary on either Middle America or Palin herself. Much as right or left wing pundits get kicked around here, they do at least have the advantage of having done it professionally for quite some time.

One 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency ..

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