Thermal Rash vest??

Shane_O

My girlfriend gets freezing cold out in the sea even though she has a good winter suit.Poor circulation means she has to get out before she loses all the blood from her hands when she gets too cold.She's using a normal rash vest,just wondering should a thermal rash vest help with this and also should it be long sleeved or is it the core temp around the torso that really matters?

Are these any good,if so which?or any other suggestions welcome.Thanks!


Neil Pryde Thermalite Rash Vest
A snug layer designed to wick moisture away from the body and thus reduce wind-chill.
With a Polypropylene lining the Thermalight jersey is extremely comfortable and can be used in conjunction with other garments as a thermal layering system

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4 way stretch CONSTRUCTION FEATURES
Collar
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Moisture Wicking


O'Neill Thermo-X S/S Crew

PolyPro P2™ layering andPowerStretch® insulation. Whether you are using the Thermo-X or theThermo for insulation, or as an external layerfor UV protection, this series is built with ultimate performance in mind.

Features:

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p2 Polyolefin: Thermal Layering. P2 fiber, a polyolefin' based material, transports moisture away from the body faster and more effectively than any other fiber. P2 is quick drying, abrasion resistant, odor resisant and heat retaining.

Wicks Away Moisture

Any help much appreciated!

depaor

These are good; def helps keep warm.
Just wondering does it wetsuit fit her absolutely perfectly? if it s bit loose that could be the problem

Shane_O

Her suit fits her perfectly,think i might get her one of these so.Should a short sleeved one be different to a long sleeved in terms of keeping heat/energy in,or would there be any noticeable difference?
Thanks

Notch000

Chicks are alway cold, hungry or 'not in the mood'

topper75

I have a long sleeve thermal rashguard and it certainly helps. You say her problem is with the hands though. Why not neoprene gloves? Cheaper as well in terms of solving the problem.

Shane_O

Hand and feet,the extremities really,when your core temp drops itll draw blood from these to keep the core warm,and due to her poor circulationits not good to have the blood away from these extremities for too long so keeping the core warmer for longer will prevent it taking the blood from the extremities,its not so much her hands getting cold if ya know what i mean,she doesnt even get "cold" just that she has to leave to avoid the fingers freezing over.

waves

I just bought a sleeveless Alder one with a hood. It's one mil thick so presumably that's an extra 20% of thickness added to my 5/4.

A guy in wind and wave suggested to only use thin gloves as your hands will get cold anyway (I have 5 mm gloves) and with the thinner ones you've more flexibility.

Damn, forgot how cold it gets here in winter.

Macanri

A thermal rash vest will help alot. I have a titanium lined one, its a short sleeve so is less restrictive. but in your girlfriends case I would advise in getting a long sleeve one with a hood.

cue

Long sleeve ones are toasty!

Shane_O

Does anyone know would there be a difference in mens small and womens small size,Want to get the O'Niell rash vest above from KOW but there seems to be no womens Thermo-X so was wondering if she is size small will a mens small fit her?

c - 13

I'd say it wouldnt fit her as well as it should. The womens rash vests are tapered at the waist and have allowances made for the chest.

It would probably be tight in some places, loose in others and have her chest squashed up under her neck

Shane_O

Im gonna ring emand see what they say,thanks!

learnerplates

Macanri wrote: »

A thermal rash vest will help alot. I have a titanium lined one, its a short sleeve so is less restrictive. but in your girlfriends case I would advise in getting a long sleeve one with a hood.

Where and for how much could I pick up a thermal long sleeve reshvest?
and is there anything for the lower regions too?

I have 3mil suit and I'd rather get something to put on underneath than buy a new wintersuit. I have hood and gloves but a heavier vest would help too later on in the year

cue

Not sure where you can get them L, as mine were sent over from France as a gift . I got thermal kneelenght shorts aswell and they are really effective under the suit.
There is no way I would last in a 3mm suit in Winter :eek: even with the thermals. I have a 5mm suit over the thermals or I freeze.

learnerplates

I think I'd manage with the thermal vest and shorts, presuming they were 1mm I suppose, as someone mentioned earlier it's the extrematies that take the hit which I've covered but there's no way I'd last more than a 1/2 hr with a 3mm alone.
I'm gonna have a look for 1mm vest and shorts for under 80euro, if anyone can help please do.

How much is an average 5mm suit these days?

TheTubes

learnerplates wrote: »

I think I'd manage with the thermal vest and shorts, presuming they were 1mm I suppose, as someone mentioned earlier it's the extrematies that take the hit which I've covered but there's no way I'd last more than a 1/2 hr with a 3mm alone.
I'm gonna have a look for 1mm vest and shorts for under 80euro, if anyone can help please do.

How much is an average 5mm suit these days?

I just got a 5mm o neill heat for 100e (not £), not many sizes left tho.
there is one rip curl 5mm suit on that site for 79£ which is good value imo.

learnerplates

the size selection is small alright, prices do look reasonable though, I might have a look at a wintersuit if they're around the 100euro, better value than spending 80 on thermal undies

Garry17

Shane_O wrote: »

Hand and feet,the extremities really,when your core temp drops itll draw blood from these to keep the core warm,and due to her poor circulationits not good to have the blood away from these extremities for too long so keeping the core warmer for longer will prevent it taking the blood from the extremities,its not so much her hands getting cold if ya know what i mean,she doesnt even get "cold" just that she has to leave to avoid the fingers freezing over.

Sounds like Raynaud's Disease. Have a look at this link

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/raynauds-disease/DS00433

There's a few pages there.

The US military experimented with this problem. They tried to trick the hypothalamus into not shutting down the extremities. They got soldiers to sit outside in the cold with very little on (clothes-wise) but with their hands and feet in buckets of hot water. It had varied success.

badolepuddytat

I also have poor enough circulation but have an integrated hood in my winter wetsuit, not getting gallons of the atlantic down my neck goes a long way to keeping me toasty. My rashie is usually fairly dry when I get out. I have 5mm gloves and apart from making it harder to carry my board comfortably I don't find they hinder me. Booties are a must!

She might want to get her iron levels checked at the gp as a lot of young women have undiagnosed anaemia which can, among other things make them really feel the cold. I take a top-up course of iron (one every second day) in winter and also take ginseng supplements if I find my circulation is getting poorer. Having a strong coffee about 30 minutes before getting in the water raises the heart rate thus getting a good blood supply into extremities.

I am the coldest blooded creature going and this regime keeps me happy in the water through winter, hope it helps

elainee

iv terrible circulation in my hands and feet and have that reynard syndrome thinky what i wear is 3mm booties 5mm wetsuit normal rashie and 3mm gloves and dont feel the cold at all!! if u gave me a cold can of coke to hold my hand would be numb in like 20 sec!!:eek: have no probs surfing!!:)

c - 13

elainee wrote: »

iv terrible circulation in my hands and feet and have that reynard syndrome thinky what i wear is 3mm booties 5mm wetsuit normal rashie and 3mm gloves and dont feel the cold at all!! if u gave me a cold can of coke to hold my hand would be numb in like 20 sec!!:eek: have no probs surfing!!:)

IIRC you only started recently enough yes ? If so come back here and post that again in Jan/Feb

elainee

haha i know yeah!! you so right like!!ha:P

Well thats my 2 cents worth!! hehe