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Are You Safe In A Taxi ( Yes It's Part 3! )

  • 24-09-2008 7:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-ne...00-1481324.html
    Bogus taxi roof signs on sale in Dublin shops for just e200
    City News Home
    By Geraldine Gittens

    Wednesday September 24 2008

    BOGUS taxi roof signs can be bought widely around Dublin city by people who don't have a taxi licence, a taxi drivers union leader has told the Herald.

    The National Taxi Drivers Union (NTDU) says the signs, which are the key symbol of identification for taxi cabs, can be bought in some Dublin shops for just a few hundred euro, without professional taxi identification.

    "Anybody can buy a taxi sign for €200. They don't ask who you are," says Tommy Gorman, President of the NTDU. "There are eight outlets around Dublin selling these taxi signs."

    Mr Gorman says that he was outraged after he himself bought a sign without hassle.

    "I told them I had a driver on the M50 who was in a crash and a truck driver drove over the taxi sign and destroyed it.

    "They told me it'd be ready in an hour for €200. They're selling signs and you require no ID to buy them," he said.

    "It's an unfortunate thing. God knows what's going on."

    Mr Gorman says he was amazed that not even other taxi drivers at ranks noticed when the signs he bought had the exact same licence numbers.

    "I bought two taxi plates with the same number and we paraded them around Dublin, one of them on a private car, and no one noticed."

    Symbol

    Mr Gorman says the issue is a huge concern because the sign is such an important symbol for the public when they attempt to hail a taxi, adding that the taxi driver's ID card, placed before the passenger seat of the car, does not give the unwitting public enough notice as to whether the driver is licensed or not.

    "You don't hail the ID on the front of the car, you hail the sign. The public need to be protected because they're in danger.

    "When you get into a taxi, find out if the taxi driver can produce an official receipt at the end of the taxi journey.

    "It seems extreme, but the sign could be stolen," he added.

    "The taxi driver must be able to print out an official receipt by law," he added.

    The NTDU president stressed that he is concerned about the lack of enforcement with regard to taxi signage: "The taxi regulator has its own enforcers. Eight is not sufficient, along with a senior enforcer. How can you protect the public with this amount of enforcers and 26,000 taxi drivers? It's an impossibility".

    Meanwhile, the Commission for Taxi Regulation has said that each licensed taxi, hackney and limousine has a "tamper proof disc on its front and rear windows confirming the vehicle"

    "This disc is fitted by the National Car Testing Service as part of the licensing process," said a spokesperson, who added that they, "along with the Gardai, carry out regular checks on vehicles at taxi ranks across the country".

    - Geraldine Gittens

    So would you know what to look for when getting a taxi to ensure your safety as much as possible? and more to the point do you?

    Do you know what to look for and do you actualy look? 33 votes

    No I don't know so I don't check
    0% 0 votes
    Yes I know and I do Check
    51% 17 votes
    Yes I know but I don't check
    48% 16 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Nice idea to drive in the bus lanes. Although it might look strange on my 2 door 96 green micra:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    heymcflyx wrote: »
    Nice idea to drive in the bus lanes.

    Is it worth it just for that?....maybe if they threw in the ability to drive without any concern towards anyone else on the road and the magical hazard lights that allow you to stop anywhere you feel like it I would go for it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm presuming that just because they have the plate doesn't mean they have the license that's usually stuck on the dashboard. I always check that out when I'm in a cab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Is it worth it just for that?....maybe if they threw in the ability to drive without any concern towards anyone else on the road and the magical hazard lights that allow you to stop anywhere you feel like it I would go for it.

    I hate those magical hazard lights.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I know drivers are supposed to display an id card in taxis, however most are partially covered in the front of the taxi, unlike in London where deivers have it clearly displayed in the back for you to easily see and they also display information regarding fares clearly unlike in Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    this whole story is complete bollocks.

    The original internet 'supposed' email that was floating around mentioned 'Bradys' in Terenure and it's total bullshit.

    Nothing even remotely like this happened in Bradys, or the car park, or the street outside, and was started up by 'someone' who had a gripe with the pub

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    marcsignal wrote: »
    this whole story is complete bollocks.

    The original internet 'supposed' email that was floating around mentioned 'Bradys' in Terenure and it's total bullshit.

    Nothing even remotely like this happened in Bradys, or the car park, or the street outside, and was started up by 'someone' who had a gripe with the pub

    :cool:

    Hello caller, we seem to have a crossed line, would you mind hanging up and reposting....:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    More to the point, are AH users safe from shite, repetitive Taxi threads?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    how is this still alive......die already! DIE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    stovelid wrote: »
    More to the point, are AH users safe from shite, repetitive Taxi threads?

    At least they are better than the usual sh*te you get from taxi drivers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭shoelaceface


    i hate getting taxis... would never get one alone!

    remember one night in waterford away from the nightclubs this car was hanging around. we were waiting for a lift. and he kept asking us did we want a 'taxi' home but a cheaper fare then taxis. we said no, then he drove off, came back down the road later with a car full of fellas. the car didnt even have a sign on top, never mind i.d in the car! he was a chancer, hanging around down the street away from the main crowd and more importantly for him, away from the guards and waiting for some drunken crowd to stagger down the street and into his 'taxi' without asking a question!

    wish i had reported him! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    i hate getting taxis... would never get one alone!

    remember one night in waterford away from the nightclubs this car was hanging around. we were waiting for a lift. and he kept asking us did we want a 'taxi' home but a cheaper fare then taxis. we said no, then he drove off, came back down the road later with a car full of fellas. the car didnt even have a sign on top, never mind i.d in the car! he was a chancer, hanging around down the street away from the main crowd and more importantly for him, away from the guards and waiting for some drunken crowd to stagger down the street and into his 'taxi' without asking a question!

    wish i had reported him! :(

    Ha! and you wonder how people are getting away with this type of stuff?! Not reporting it, and posting it on a message board.

    That'll learn them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    stovelid wrote: »
    More to the point, are AH users safe from shite, repetitive Taxi threads?

    The thread title clearly informs you that it's a discussion about Taxis, if your sick of reading about the subject why click the thread, read it and post :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Do us a favour Spook_ie. Leave it at three of these threads. Trilogies are ok. You start going beyond that, things get a lot worse. Just ask George Lucas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    keen wrote: »
    The thread title clearly informs you that it's a discussion about Taxis, if your sick of reading about the subject why click the thread, read it and post :confused:


    Why look at your sh*te after you get off the toilet?....why press the big red "buttins" that we are not supposed to press?....all these questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭shoelaceface


    Ha! and you wonder how people are getting away with this type of stuff?! Not reporting it, and posting it on a message board.

    That'll learn them

    well i didnt lose any sleep over it :pac: :pac: :pac: :pac:

    but a nice bit of garda action would have been a good way to end the night....

    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    keen wrote: »
    The thread title clearly informs you that it's a discussion about Taxis, if your sick of reading about the subject why click the thread, read it and post :confused:


    It was the part 3 that hooked me in. Now I feel as underwhelmed as I did when I left Beverly Hills Cop III.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    So would you know what to look for when getting a taxi to ensure your safety as much as possible? and more to the point do you?

    Sorry OP, I saw the words "Evening Herald" and stopped reading.

    Also, you don't have the option "taxis are for inferior people, my chauffeur, Perkins, drives me about town, what, what?" in your poll so I couldn't answer :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    Sorry OP, I saw the words "Evening Herald" and stopped reading.

    Also, you don't have the option "taxis are for inferior people, my chauffeur, Perkins, drives me about town, what, what?" in your poll so I couldn't answer :(


    Would have assumed you qualified as a NO I don't know , so I don't check button pusher, do you know the rules and regulations for hiring/use of limosuines and chauffers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    javaboy wrote: »
    Do us a favour Spook_ie. Leave it at three of these threads. Trilogies are ok. You start going beyond that, things get a lot worse. Just ask George Lucas.


    I did ask him, he says that I just have to do " Are you safe in Taxis 4 (The One Where Someone Dies!! ) " otherwise it would be like stopping at Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    I did ask him, he says that I just have to do " Are you safe in Taxis 4 (The One Where Someone Dies!! ) " otherwise it would be like stopping at Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban...


    Which comes first...the talking bollocks or the taxi licence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Good to see the principles of freedom of speech extend to all of society. :)

    There's also a right to remain silent. Unfortunately most taxi drivers waive it. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Which comes first...the talking bollocks or the taxi licence?
    stovelid wrote: »
    More to the point, are AH users safe from shite, repetitive Taxi threads?
    how is this still alive......die already! DIE!


    Good to see the principles of freedom of speech extend to all of society. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    javaboy wrote: »
    There's also a right to remain silent. Unfortunately most taxi drivers waive it. :pac:


    Much like the customers after they've been to the pubs, some people realy should get one of their more sober friends to tape their conversations in taxis, actualy might do that my self and start putting up audioclips on here see if any AH readers recognise themselves from the ****e they spout in the taxi :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Would have assumed you qualified as a NO I don't know , so I don't check button pusher,

    That would assume that I would ever be in a position to check! As I said, taxis are for the riff-raff.
    do you know the rules and regulations for hiring/use of limosuines and chauffers?
    My good man, do you assume I 'hire' a limosuine or chauffeur? The man is a paid servant as was his father and grandfather before him. The Rolls is my property. I do not 'hire' sir. To hire, implies that others have 'hired' the item before you. Do you think I would seat this over-privileged bottom in a vehicle that had been 'hired' by some drunken wretch from the working classes? Tsk, tsk, I don't associate with anything to do with riff-raff. Why I may as well go live somewhere slummy such as Clontarf, Malahide or heavens forbid, Terenure! Oh, the thoughts of it all, is enough to upset me. Jenkins, stop typing my post and pour me a brandy.

    /turns nose up, sniffs haughtily!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Much like the customers after they've been to the pubs, some people realy should get one of their more sober friends to tape their conversations in taxis, actualy might do that my self and start putting up audioclips on here see if any AH readers recognise themselves from the ****e they spout in the taxi :)

    Go ahead. I can see the headlines now: "Pervy Taxi Driver In Secret Tape Shocker!" :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Good to see the principles of freedom of speech extend to all of society. :)

    Freedom of speech is overrated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭lost marbles


    javaboy wrote: »
    Go ahead. I can see the headlines now: "Pervy Taxi Driver In Secret Tape Shocker!" :D
    how about these headlines
    PERVY PASSENGER TRIES TO GET LEG OVER IN TAXI AND FAILS
    "just a coffee i swear i wont speak a word about tonight in the office "

    dont say you never tried it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    how about these headlines
    PERVY PASSENGER TRIES TO GET LEG OVER IN TAXI AND FAILS
    "just a coffee i swear i wont speak a word about tonight in the office "

    dont say you never tried it

    Nope not even once. Sorry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    Most taxi drivers are duuurty pdf files, da dopey eejits.

    And they always start rambling on 'bout some sh1te, as well as askin' u personal questions.

    Like, my bro usually retorts 2 dem n those cases: "I'm paying u to DRIVE, not to TALK."
    They aren't long shuttin' da fook up then! Ya, it's a saucy thing to say, but it's da truth!

    The above annoyance (rambling taxi drivers) should be at da forefront of most people's concerns when hoppin' into a taxi!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭lost marbles


    ShellBell1 wrote: »
    Most taxi drivers are duuurty pdf files, da dopey eejits.

    And they always start rambling on 'bout some sh1te, as well as askin' u personal questions.

    Like, my bro usually retorts 2 dem n those cases: "I'm paying u to DRIVE, not to TALK."
    They aren't long shuttin' da fook up then! Ya, it's a saucy thing to say, but it's da truth!

    The above annoyance (rambling taxi drivers) should be at da forefront of most people's concerns when hoppin' into a taxi!
    if you talk the way you post i dont think there would be much conversation going on in my taxi .
    better you leave it to the bro :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    ShellBell1 wrote: »
    Most taxi drivers are duuurty pdf files, da dopey eejits.

    And they always start rambling on 'bout some sh1te, as well as askin' u personal questions.

    Like, my bro usually retorts 2 dem n those cases: "I'm paying u to DRIVE, not to TALK."
    They aren't long shuttin' da fook up then! Ya, it's a saucy thing to say, but it's da truth!

    The above annoyance (rambling taxi drivers) should be at da forefront of most people's concerns when hoppin' into a taxi!

    Personally, i'd be happy to throw your brother out of my taxi in moving traffic if he said that to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Volvoboy wrote: »
    Personally, i'd be happy to throw your brother out of my taxi in moving traffic if he said that to me.

    how should you tell a taxi driver that you don't want to listen to him? seriously, i don't like to be rude but i find it annoying sometimes when they don't get the hint that you just wanna chill in peace and not talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    how should you tell a taxi driver that you don't want to listen to him? seriously, i don't like to be rude but i find it annoying sometimes when they don't get the hint that you just wanna chill in peace and not talk.

    Just nicely tell them that you arent in the humor for talking, this craic of saying ''I pay you to drive not talk'' will find yourself in the middle of suburbia at 3am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Volvoboy wrote: »
    Just nicely tell them that you arent in the humor for talking, this craic of saying ''I pay you to drive not talk'' will find yourself in the middle of suburbia at 3am.

    That's exactly where I want to be.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    [quote=lost marbles;57375532]if you talk the way you post i dont think there would be much conversation going on in my taxi .
    better you leave it to the bro :rolleyes:[/quote]

    If you patronise people in real life conversations the way you do in your post above, you'd soon be conducting a conversation with yourself.

    I think it's no coincidence that your boards.ie username is 'lost marbles'- better leave it to those who clearly haven't lost their marbles, 'Captain High Horse'! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    Volvoboy wrote: »
    Personally, i'd be happy to throw your brother out of my taxi in moving traffic if he said that to me.


    Yeah, that's a really smart move. You wouldn't be long finding yourself joining a dole queue! Or down at the Guards' station.

    FYI, I know many people (aside from my bro) who have also said, "I'm paying you to drive, not to talk", and there was no hassle. If it weren't for fares' money to begin with taxi drivers wouldn't even have jobs, so the customer (providing they aren't pissed drunk) should take greater priority.



    Just nicely tell them that you arent in the humor for talking, this craic of saying ''I pay you to drive not talk'' will find yourself in the middle of suburbia at 3am.


    I think it's unlikely that you would have the capacity to say anything to anyone politely! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    ShellBell1 wrote: »


    Yeah, that's a really smart move. You wouldn't be long finding yourself joining a dole queue! Or down at the Guards' station.

    FYI, I know many people (aside from my bro) who have also said, "I'm paying you to drive, not to talk", and there was no hassle. If it weren't for fares' money to begin with taxi drivers wouldn't even have jobs, so the customer (providing they aren't pissed drunk) should take greater priority.





    I think it's unlikely that you would have the capacity to say anything to anyone politely! :pac:


    Actualy if a customer said that to me ( admitedly depending on the tone in which it's said ) I think I would be terminating the hire agreement right there and they'd be looking for a different taxi.

    FYI A lot of the time when a driver starts off a conversation it's part of a risk assesment process, whats this guy like, am I at risk of not getting paid or worse on arrival, is the guy shifty and nervous, is the guy sober enough to know when he's going to puke or piss himself, is the guy going to fall asleep and then say that I took him the long route etc. etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Wreck wrote: »
    That's exactly where I want to be.

    Might not be the right bit of suburbia though, then again from the stories I hear you might not get to the right bit anyway, unless your prepared to talk to the driver and direct him every turn :)

    As George Hook queried on one of his shows A Taxi Driver that doesn't know where Stillorgan is, whats he doing driving a taxi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭lost marbles


    ShellBell1 wrote: »
    [quote=lost marbles;57375532]if you talk the way you post i dont think there would be much conversation going on in my taxi .
    better you leave it to the bro :rolleyes:

    If you patronise people in real life conversations the way you do in your post above, you'd soon be conducting a conversation with yourself.

    I think it's no coincidence that your boards.ie username is 'lost marbles'- better leave it to those who clearly haven't lost their marbles, 'Captain High Horse'! :p
    [/quote]
    oh those sticks and stones :D sorry i will conduct any future discussion in your kind of speak will i
    i hvnt lost my mrbls..but ppl like urself cos me 2loose de plot sumtims, Captain High Horse nw ders a gud name:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Might not be the right bit of suburbia though, then again from the stories I hear you might not get to the right bit anyway, unless your prepared to talk to the driver and direct him every turn :)

    As George Hook queried on one of his shows A Taxi Driver that doesn't know where Stillorgan is, whats he doing driving a taxi?


    Using it as cover to the fact he gets his money from drug dealing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    ShellBell1 wrote: »
    Most taxi drivers are duuurty pdf files, da dopey eejits.

    And they always start rambling on 'bout some sh1te, as well as askin' u personal questions.

    Like, my bro usually retorts 2 dem n those cases: "I'm paying u to DRIVE, not to TALK."
    They aren't long shuttin' da fook up then! Ya, it's a saucy thing to say, but it's da truth!

    The above annoyance (rambling taxi drivers) should be at da forefront of most people's concerns when hoppin' into a taxi!
    ShellBell1 wrote: »
    Yeah, that's a really smart move. You wouldn't be long finding yourself joining a dole queue! Or down at the Guards' station.

    FYI, I know many people (aside from my bro) who have also said, "I'm paying you to drive, not to talk", and there was no hassle. If it weren't for fares' money to begin with taxi drivers wouldn't even have jobs, so the customer (providing they aren't pissed drunk) should take greater priority. I think it's unlikely that you would have the capacity to say anything to anyone politely! :pac:

    Of course the other thing we tend to look for in the conversations is mental instability like Schizophrania..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Using it as cover to the fact he gets his money from drug dealing?


    Nah all the drug dealers I know, know where Stillorgan is, apparantly it's got a good customer base...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭lost marbles


    Using it as cover to the fact he gets his money from drug dealing?
    manys a true word said [be it in jest];)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    ShellBell1 wrote: »


    Yeah, that's a really smart move. You wouldn't be long finding yourself joining a dole queue! Or down at the Guards' station.

    FYI, I know many people (aside from my bro) who have also said, "I'm paying you to drive, not to talk", and there was no hassle. If it weren't for fares' money to begin with taxi drivers wouldn't even have jobs, so the customer (providing they aren't pissed drunk) should take greater priority.





    I think it's unlikely that you would have the capacity to say anything to anyone politely! :pac:

    Is all about give and take, your nice to me and i'm nice to you, your a complete bitch or wanker (depending on gender) and i'll be a complete wanker to you.

    Quite basic life skills here.

    Love to see you in a coffee shop, ''where's the sugar asshole''


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    Where's part 4?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    towel401 wrote: »
    Where's part 4?

    Part 4 is ''Rude, Agressive, Muppet, Drunk, Abusive, Smelly - Passangers''


    Dont give me the high and mighty bollix either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    Volvoboy wrote: »
    Is all about give and take, your nice to me and i'm nice to you, your a complete bitch or wanker (depending on gender) and i'll be a complete wanker to you.

    Quite basic life skills here.


    Yeah, and you're well equipped to preach to people about life skills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Of course the other thing we tend to look for in the conversations is mental instability like Schizophrania..



    WTF?!!! :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭ShellBell1


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Actualy if a customer said that to me ( admitedly depending on the tone in which it's said ) I think I would be terminating the hire agreement right there and they'd be looking for a different taxi.


    You'd have a lot of people looking for different taxis then. The only person you'd be driving around is your own goddamn self! :pac:

    A lot of the time when a driver starts off a conversation it's part of a risk assesment process, whats this guy like, am I at risk of not getting paid or worse on arrival, is the guy shifty and nervous, is the guy sober enough to know when he's going to puke or piss himself, is the guy going to fall asleep and then say that I took him the long route etc. etc.


    There's a big, obvious difference between small talk where someone is 'testing the water', so to speak, and RAMBLING ON. I mentioned nothing about tentative small talk where they're ascertaining whether someone's okay or not. Learn to read please.


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