Why Do People Do This???

Degag

Playing a tournie, down to the 40 or so and there are 2 players on my table that continiously using up their time limits before folding... yeah and bubble is long burst:mad:

pok3rplaya

They're trying to give people on other tables more time to bust out so that they move up in the pay structure themselves.

Degag

pok3rplaya wrote: »

They're trying to give people on other tables more time to bust out so that they move up in the pay structure themselves.

It just seems silly, payouts go up a few $$$ every 10 places...

Ace2007

whats a few $$$ could be loads for others....

eagle eye

yeah, 30 dollars here is what 18 euro or so. In some countries you can get a cab for the whole day for 30 bucks.

CHD

Could be multi-tabling.

Conbro

They probably see you get upset the first time they do it so continue to do it at every opportunity. The more you tilt, the more their ev increases.

pok3rplaya

Tackle69 wrote: »

It just seems silly, payouts go up a few $$$ every 10 places...

Yo people are silly, what else can I say.

Degag

Conbro wrote: »

They probably see you get upset the first time they do it so continue to do it at every opportunity. The more you tilt, the more their ev increases.

Nah, i don't say anything to them in chat usually, it doesn't make any difference.

DEEP THROAT

If your table is half the speed of the other tables you only put in half the blinds per level. On the ipoker network where the chip avg is normally about 12 times the BB when you're in the money this will make a big difference. They don't even go hand for hand when the prizes change.

a147pro

the jumps in the Sun games are the same as the buy in to the 80k, 55$ or so. I arrived ITM with a below average stack and went card dead but moved up two or three levels easily enough, which you just see as 3 freerolls for decent cash

then I limped my SB with 93, insta pushed the 9 high flop knowing if one player got knocked out I would get anouther $60 or so and BB has AA:(

Ollieboy

Its really stupid play. The best option is always to see as many hands as possible within a blind level, so you get the best chance to increase your stack, there only letting the blinds catch up on them and reduce the value of your stack.

I always felt it was in the best interest of the cl to take this action.

In general, when I see people do this on stars, I just raise there blind each time as they have no interest in defending it and just want to make the money or move up the levels of the money. Also check there record, its usually very poor.

DubTony

Whatever about MTTs, I can't understand people doing this in STTs.
One night a fellah in a fiver SNG waited until he got the 15 second "warning" till he played (usually folding). When I asked him why, he said it was so no-one could get a read on his timing.
When I said it didn't matter because he folded most hands and that at this level nobody was even paying attention to his play, never mind his timing, he said "It's my $5.50. and I'll play whatever way I like" :P

The mind boggles.

YULETIRED

Learn an instrument while you wait. The Harmonica is easy to learn plus it acts as a soulful sympathiser when you get sucked out on. If you look on every bad beat as an opportunity to play the blues you will soon become a proficient harmonica player , especially if you play on ipoker.

Why do people do this....it tilts me so bad
this was the worst beat , that I've ever had.... cue Harmonica.....and add verses to taste.

DEEP THROAT

Ollieboy wrote: »

Its really stupid play. The best option is always to see as many hands as possible within a blind level, so you get the best chance to increase your stack, there only letting the blinds catch up on them and reduce the value of your stack.

I always felt it was in the best interest of the cl to take this action.

In general, when I see people do this on stars, I just raise there blind each time as they have no interest in defending it and just want to make the money or move up the levels of the money. Also check there record, its usually very poor.

When Chip Leader Yes. When Short Stack No.

On I-Poker you can lose 10 to 20 players a level when in the money and if you slow the table down you will only have one round of blinds for a 10 minute level. If you can move up say 10 places without putting money into the pot all the better especially as in the ipoker world at any given time 15% of the field are going to be almost pot committed on their next BB so putting off the inevitable is deffo +EV. Of course if you have a big stack it can be frustrating but there is nothing you can do about it.

On sites with decent structured tournies like Stars, Full Tilt, Absolute Poker etc there is no real need to do this unless you are very shortstacked and are hoping to preempt a table break and miss the blinds.

Also it's hard to attack my blinds when they're not in play, so this would be a very good way of defending them

Ollieboy

DEEP THROAT wrote: »

When Chip Leader Yes. When Short Stack No.

On I-Poker you can lose 10 to 20 players a level when in the money and if you slow the table down you will only have one round of blinds for a 10 minute level. If you can move up say 10 places without putting money into the pot all the better especially as in the ipoker world at any given time 15% of the field are going to be almost pot committed on their next BB so putting off the inevitable is deffo +EV. Of course if you have a big stack it can be frustrating but there is nothing you can do about it.

On sites with decent structured tournies like Stars, Full Tilt, Absolute Poker etc there is no real need to do this unless you are very shortstacked and are hoping to preempt a table break and miss the blinds.

Also it's hard to attack my blinds when they're not in play, so this would be a very good way of defending them

If your a unskilled player than the above statement is correct, but for the better player with a edge over the field, its always best to see as many hands as possible to try and outplay the weaker player. If your only interest in earning a extra 50 for 4 hours work, than why play in the first play. Any player should always target the top 3 payouts. Remember better players will know there M and no when to open push etc.

But everybody can have different views on it, but killing the game like this just makes it easier for weaker players to take a coin flip and move up the levels.

If you are cl killing the game and protecting your stack is a option, as it allows you to take a coin flip easier as shortstack players will nearly be pot commit most times etc.

Its a horrible way to play poker online and very boring for the player involved. I have done it once in a EPT sat and it didn't work out...lol

DEEP THROAT

Ollieboy wrote: »

If your a unskilled player than the above statement is correct, but for the better player with a edge over the field, its always best to see as many hands as possible to try and outplay the weaker player. If your only interest in earning a extra 50 for 4 hours work, than why play in the first play. Any player should always target the top 3 payouts. Remember better players will know there M and no when to open push etc.

But everybody can have different views on it, but killing the game like this just makes it easier for weaker players to take a coin flip and move up the levels.

If you are cl killing the game and protecting your stack is a option, as it allows you to take a coin flip easier as shortstack players will nearly be pot commit most times etc.

Its a horrible way to play poker online and very boring for the player involved. I have done it once in a EPT sat and it didn't work out...lol

What quantifiable edge can the "better" player have over the "weaker" player in a tournament that has turned into a total (ie Allin or Fold ) crapshoot?


See as many hands as possible?

Limp into every pot and then you'll see every hand.....

dbs_sailor

when i do it it's because my crappy broadband connection is cutting out

Ollieboy

DEEP THROAT wrote: »

What quantifiable edge can the "better" player have over the "weaker" player in a tournament that has turned into a total (ie Allin or Fold ) crapshoot?


See as many hands as possible?

Limp into every pot and then you'll see every hand.....

nobody mention anything about a crapshoot, but you will also have a edge over weaker players when it does become a crapshoot. I believe its always best to see as many flops as possible and play as many hands as possible as this will give me a better number of options/hands to outplay the other players at the table.

People doing the above type of timing out are usually scared to play hands, hence weak players.

DEEP THROAT

Ollieboy wrote: »

nobody mention anything about a crapshoot, but you will also have a edge over weaker players when it does become a crapshoot. I believe its always best to see as many flops as possible and play as many hands as possible as this will give me a better number of options/hands to outplay the other players at the table.

People doing the above type of timing out are usually scared to play hands, hence weak players.

I have mentioned in every post that this refers to tournaments (probably on ipoker) where it has become a crapshoot that you see this happening and I was replying to the OP why certain players do it and the advantage that they may get from it. I think it would be naive to assume they are all weak/bad players

If you have less than 10 big blinds how is it possible to see many flops?

How can you outplay people on the flop when most of the action is preflop?

Ollieboy

DEEP THROAT wrote: »

I have mentioned in every post that this refers to tournaments (probably on ipoker) where it has become a crapshoot that you see this happening and I was replying to the OP why certain players do it and the advantage that they may get from it. I think it would be naive to assume they are all weak/bad players

If you have less than 10 big blinds how is it possible to see many flops?

How can you outplay people on the flop when most of the action is preflop?

Well let me enlighten you. This happens on all sites. And its only weak morons that play like this as they only know preflop ranges. They also wait till there in late position to make a gamble. Not everyone on the table will have 10bb's, hence the bigstack should take advantage of the situation and pick up the blinds cheaply.

I really think you miss the point.

as for replying to op post, you quote me in your post so you were also replying to me!!

And its far from naive to think there weak players as what there doing is weak play, I would go as far as saying its a definition of weak play. Been scared to play.

Would you believe me if I told you some people even play like this in live events? Its got nothing to do with crapshoots. Agreed I-Poker goes like that around the bubbles of money and final tables, but you'll always have a advantage.

DEEP THROAT

Ollieboy wrote: »

Well let me enlighten you. This happens on all sites. And its only weak morons that play like this as they only know preflop ranges. They also wait till there in late position to make a gamble. Not everyone on the table will have 10bb's, hence the bigstack should take advantage of the situation and pick up the blinds cheaply.

I really think you miss the point.

as for replying to op post, you quote me in your post so you were also replying to me!!

And its far from naive to think there weak players as what there doing is weak play, I would go as far as saying its a definition of weak play. Been scared to play.

Would you believe me if I told you some people even play like this in live events? Its got nothing to do with crapshoots. Agreed I-Poker goes like that around the bubbles of money and final tables, but you'll always have a advantage.

You are completely missing my point.....