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Eastenders Child Abuse Storyline

  • 22-09-2008 3:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭


    A recent EastEnders plot following new character Tony King's relationship with his 15-year-old step-daughter has prompted more than 200 complaints.

    Last Friday's episode showed King's (Chris Coghill) introduction to Albert Square after a year in jail and included a scene where he passionately kissed a seemingly consenting Whitney Dean (Shona McGarty). The storyline suggests that he manipulated her into a relationship before being sent to prison after being charged with ABH.

    The BBC has confirmed that it has received 163 complaints, while broadcasting regulator Ofcom received 41. The pre-watershed episode was watched by eight million viewers.

    The broadcaster said the plot had been created "in association with the NSPCC" and in accordance with its editorial policy.

    A spokeswoman said: "EastEnders has a rich heritage of tackling difficult social issues, such as domestic violence and mental health."

    They added: "Our current storyline about child abuse is another such issue which had been created in association with the NSPCC and in accordance with BBC editorial policy."

    Controversy for Eastenders means ratings winner

    EastEnders newcomer Chris Coghill has denied claims that he has 24-hour security outside his home due to his controversial role in the BBC show.

    Various tabloid reports this week have suggested that the 33-year-old actor, who plays child abuser Tony King in the Walford-based soap, has round-the-clock protection in the event of any trouble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Solarball10


    And soon he's gonna tire of Whitney (she is nearly 16, after all), and he's going to set his sights on Lauren. :( Sick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    ozzyoh wrote: »
    And soon he's gonna tire of Whitney (she is nearly 16, after all), and he's going to set his sights on Lauren. :( Sick.

    What age is Lauren?

    Is she the same age as Whitney and is she not in the same class at school as Whitney and Lucy

    Whitney acts and looks alot older that 15 / 16


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Solarball10


    JP Liz wrote: »
    What age is Lauren?

    Is she the same age as Whitney and is she not in the same class at school as Whitney and Lucy

    Whitney acts and looks alot older that 15 / 16

    Actually I didn't think of that...Whitney looks a lot older than Lauren....I kinda just assumed, going on looks alone, that Lauren is about 13/14?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭trio


    Lauren's younger sister is 12, so she must be 13/14. She has a boyfriend, Peter Beale.

    I think it's a brilliant storyline as the multiple weekly episodes mean it can be a realistically slow-burner. It's very creepy the way you can see the manipulation in real time, drip by drip.

    It's 3 months until Whitney turns 16 when she can expect herself and Tony to be able to run off together without being hounded by the law, so we can expect this to go on at least until Christmas, when presumably it'll all explode after her birthday comes and goes and he's still not interested in leaving with her.

    Meanwhile, she'll be watching him giving attention to a younger girl. It'll be interesting to see if the penny drops that he's a paedophile, as at the moment she seems to think that theirs is a "romance" and there's nothing sinister about it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭tintinr35


    thats hot!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    They are being very clever... if they had gone straight to Lauren there would be uproar but Whitney looks older than 15 and so the storyline seems to be more "acceptable". The actors are doing well... hope it continues to be handled appropriately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Hasn't Tony been chasing that job the vicar was talking about coz it involves working with children? So maybe one of them willl be his next interest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 451 ✭✭thetyreman


    tintinr35 wrote: »
    thats hot!!
    Whats hot??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭kittex


    tintinr35 wrote: »
    thats hot!!

    I'd have thought a mod would know better than to make a shady comment like that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    He didnt mind taking a job with Lucas once he knew kids were involved.

    SICKO :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    LOL at the way people are getting worked up about it and using sad emoticons etc as if it's real life... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭kittex


    Dudess wrote: »
    LOL at the way people are getting worked up about it and using sad emoticons etc as if it's real life... :D

    Huh? I count 2 emoticons up to your post...which also includes one, making it 3.
    Never mind your LOL. If you have to laugh at your own 'joke'....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Seriously, this is the storyline of a television show and concerning fictional characters - there are people on this thread discussing them as if they really exist. As I said, LOL...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Its a very controversial storyline for a soap opera especially post watershed. All the actors and actresses involved are portraying the storyline very well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 451 ✭✭thetyreman


    Dudess wrote: »
    Seriously, this is the storyline of a television show and concerning fictional characters - there are people on this thread discussing them as if they really exist. As I said, LOL...
    Fiction yea,but i dont know whats its like in your world,but in this world these things are happening every day,just because its a soap opera it dosnt mean it dosnt happen,they are portraying real life storys,so open your mind a little..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    These things are indeed happening every day and kudos to Eastenders for addressing them. However... where did I dispute that?

    Sensible posts in relation to this sensitive storyline:
    trio wrote: »
    Lauren's younger sister is 12, so she must be 13/14. She has a boyfriend, Peter Beale.

    I think it's a brilliant storyline as the multiple weekly episodes mean it can be a realistically slow-burner. It's very creepy the way you can see the manipulation in real time, drip by drip.

    It's 3 months until Whitney turns 16 when she can expect herself and Tony to be able to run off together without being hounded by the law, so we can expect this to go on at least until Christmas, when presumably it'll all explode after her birthday comes and goes and he's still not interested in leaving with her.

    Meanwhile, she'll be watching him giving attention to a younger girl. It'll be interesting to see if the penny drops that he's a paedophile, as at the moment she seems to think that theirs is a "romance" and there's nothing sinister about it at all.
    They are being very clever... if they had gone straight to Lauren there would be uproar but Whitney looks older than 15 and so the storyline seems to be more "acceptable". The actors are doing well... hope it continues to be handled appropriately

    The ones I laughed at:
    And soon he's gonna tire of Whitney (she is nearly 16, after all), and he's going to set his sights on Lauren. :( Sick.
    He didnt mind taking a job with Lucas once he knew kids were involved.

    SICKO :mad:
    :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 451 ✭✭thetyreman


    Dudess wrote: »
    These things are indeed happening every day and kudos to Eastenders for addressing them. However... where did I dispute that?

    Sensible posts in relation to this sensitive storyline:



    The ones I laughed at:


    :D
    Technically they do really exist,your comment on them not existing portrayed that this thing only happens on tv...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I reserve the right to laugh at people - any people - talking angrily within a conversation about particular soap characters as if they are real. If something along the lines of "to think there really are sick people like that out there" were said it would be one thing, but not making the distinction is just really funny.

    It's not quite the same as, but close enough to, people going up to the actors/actresses who play soap villains and giving them verbal abuse, or sometimes even physical abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Dudess wrote: »
    I reserve the right to laugh at people - any people - talking angrily within a conversation about particular soap characters as if they are real. If something along the lines of "to think there really are sick people like that out there" were said it would be one thing, but not making the distinction is just really funny.

    It's not quite the same as, but close enough to, people going up to the actors/actresses who play soap villains and giving them verbal abuse, or sometimes even physical abuse.

    In fairness now like, This is a thread about a soap. Everyone knows it's fiction. People are referring to the characters and looking at it from their point of view.
    You may find it funny but this is a thread about soapland. If you don't like talking about soapland, then don't join in the discussion. Let the people who enjoy the soap talk about the characters they know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Loose Lips


    Dudess wrote: »
    I reserve the right to laugh at people - any people - talking angrily within a conversation about particular soap characters as if they are real. If something along the lines of "to think there really are sick people like that out there" were said it would be one thing, but not making the distinction is just really funny.

    It's not quite the same as, but close enough to, people going up to the actors/actresses who play soap villains and giving them verbal abuse, or sometimes even physical abuse.

    Dudess: The characters in a soap opera can feel like real people, like family even, to regular viewers. It is normal for them to feel emotionally 'bought in' to their lives. This is known as suspension of disbelief.

    When you think about it, what is the difference between getting emotionally involved in the lives of fictional tv characters, and responding emotionally to the opinions expressed by fictitious, anonymous internet posters?

    I think you have been insensitive here and should apologise.

    Slan


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Loose Lips wrote: »
    When you think about it, what is the difference between getting emotionally involved in the lives of fictional tv characters, and responding emotionally to the opinions expressed by fictitious, anonymous internet posters?
    Except they're not fictitious...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    I think everyone knows its a soap opera and its fictitious but this happens in real life and this character Tony is vile and evil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    phi3 wrote: »
    In fairness now like, This is a thread about a soap. Everyone knows it's fiction. People are referring to the characters and looking at it from their point of view.
    You may find it funny but this is a thread about soapland. If you don't like talking about soapland, then don't join in the discussion. Let the people who enjoy the soap talk about the characters they know.
    Exactly. Tis all just entertainment at the end of the day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭kittex


    Dudess wrote: »
    These things are indeed happening every day and kudos to Eastenders for addressing them. However... where did I dispute that?

    Sensible posts in relation to this sensitive storyline:



    The ones I laughed at:


    :D
    You are so strange! The title of the thread says 'Storyline' therefore everything discussed in it, is based on the assumption of it being fiction, of it being manufactured. Posters shouldn't have to re-announce that fact every post they make just to keep a skim reader happy.

    Anyway, you're main one coming on and getting all emo about people discussing it at all. Gosh now, if all the mods thought that way there'd be no boards at all!

    And as a mod, you should know better than to continually take a thread off topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    You're really missing my point kittex. While it would be one thing to say "that Tony is a right bastard isn't he?", the quotes I mentioned already really seem to convey genuine anger and dismay and fear - as if this person is walking among us.
    And soon he's gonna tire of Whitney (she is nearly 16, after all), and he's going to set his sights on Lauren. :( Sick.
    He didnt mind taking a job with Lucas once he knew kids were involved.

    SICKO :mad:
    Plus, it's still all very entertaining and there'd be huge disappointment if it was taken off the air, which makes the comments even more bizarre.

    Just an observation of something which amused and surprised me, not intended to upset (really it's not)...

    Oh and my being a mod is completely irrelevant when I'm not on the forum which I moderate... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭foxy06


    Dudess I have admired you from afar but find your comments on this thread to be without thought. No matter what people think about the characters in the show they may be personally affected by the storylines and the only way to show their anger is through a thread like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭SunnyP


    Fair play to the actors involved they are playing the part very well, so does Tony get the job with Lucas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    foxy06 wrote: »
    Dudess I have admired you from afar but find your comments on this thread to be without thought. No matter what people think about the characters in the show they may be personally affected by the storylines and the only way to show their anger is through a thread like this.
    Fair enough foxy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Brigantia


    i really thought i missed something with this story line, it just doesn't seem to be great at all.
    Whitney is always saying how they will run away together, and they held hands on the sofa when Bianca was sitting on it as well.

    i'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem like a child abuse story line to me, more like an affair story line. i think they only labelled it a child abuse story line because she is suppose to be 15, but it just seems not quite right somehow.
    although i don't really know, you would probably have to ask an expert for there opinion on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Brigantia wrote: »
    i really thought i missed something with this story line, it just doesn't seem to be great at all.
    Whitney is always saying how they will run away together, and they held hands on the sofa when Bianca was sitting on it as well.

    i'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem like a child abuse story line to me, more like an affair story line. i think they only labelled it a child abuse story line because she is suppose to be 15, but it just seems not quite right somehow.
    although i don't really know, you would probably have to ask an expert for there opinion on it.

    It's a child abuse story because the "relationship" started when Whitney was 11 or 12? (open to correction) And stopped because Tony went to prision


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Pigletlover


    Brigantia wrote: »
    i'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem like a child abuse story line to me, more like an affair story line. i think they only labelled it a child abuse story line because she is suppose to be 15, but it just seems not quite right somehow.
    although i don't really know, you would probably have to ask an expert for there opinion on it.

    i'm not feeling the story line either, I think it's the fact that Whitney looks and acts so much older than 15 that it seems more like an affair than abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Brigantia wrote: »
    i really thought i missed something with this story line, it just doesn't seem to be great at all.
    Whitney is always saying how they will run away together, and they held hands on the sofa when Bianca was sitting on it as well.

    i'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem like a child abuse story line to me, more like an affair story line. i think they only labelled it a child abuse story line because she is suppose to be 15, but it just seems not quite right somehow.
    although i don't really know, you would probably have to ask an expert for there opinion on it.

    Whitney looks older than her age 15. The relationship started when she was younger.

    Him preying on Lauren looks worse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭genie_us


    I would say it is abuse rather than an affair because whitney is more or less brainwashed into thinking that the relationship is real - as in he has led her to believe that it is normal behaviour. Although she is willing she doesn't realise that the whole thing is wrong and that makes it abuse.

    Just my opinion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭trio


    If you saw the episode where he was going on about the first time he saw her, at 12, and she was wearing a yellow ribbon in her hair....*shudder*.....you'd be pretty clear that it's an abuse storyline rather than an affair one.

    I agree that the actress looking not-very-childish at the moment might have confused viewers though. I think that now he's looking at the more childish looking Lauren that it'll become a lot clearer just how creepy he is.

    Actually, the way he said to Lauren straight after meeting her "You seem a bit sad" was one of the creepiest things ever. So that's how the grooming starts! Ugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Evil EastEnders paedophile Tony King is set to strike again - targeting schoolgirl Lauren Branning.

    Despite 200 complaints from viewers after ex-con Tony was shown bedding stepdaughter Whitney Dean before the 9pm watershed, he will turn his attention to Lauren, 14.

    Tony, played by Chris Coghill, be comes infatuated by the girl - actress Madeline Duggan - when she visits Whitney (Shona McGarty).

    An Albert Square insider said: "He has got away with abusing Whitney for years but it seems one young girl isn't enough."

    Actor Chris, 34, has been given 24-hour police protection over fears he could be attacked by confused fans believing him to be a real-life danger.

    But Chris said: "I hope the storyline encourages abused children to speak out."

    Lauren is dating Peter Beale yes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Brigantia


    no, i didn't see that episode. i don't watch the soaps much, which probably seems strange judging by the fact i'm on a forum discussing soaps:D
    but i do like to read about them in the mags, and online.
    thats where i came accross that it was an abuse storyline, but watching it on TV is different. maybe its the way they are filming it, because of the watershed and all of that.

    i hope the actor playing the part of Tony isn't attacked for it, he is only doing his job, and he probably feels uncomfortable filming those scene's.
    but i suppose a lot of people out there do get confused between fact and fiction, which seems pretty strange to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Chris Coghill who plays Tony is beginning filming a new drama for ITV so he will be leaving soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭lubie76


    i'm not feeling the story line either, I think it's the fact that Whitney looks and acts so much older than 15 that it seems more like an affair than abuse.


    Yes, but it's the fact that Whitney is beginning to look/act older is key to the storyline with him turning to Lauren who is younger looking / more innocent for her age


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jobucks


    JP Liz wrote: »


    +1, very well written and interesting article


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭Femelade


    Whitney is 16 in real life..
    and Tony is 34 in real life...

    so even at that, and i know they are only acting..but the kissing scenes between them...is that not a bit much given their real ages?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Has he started grooming Lauren? Missed a few eps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Tupins


    Not as such but he has spoken to her and been very friendly to her. Also there was a bit of a creepy scene of him watching her in the square from his bedroom window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    They are gradually increasing the attention he is giving to Lauren. The so-called "grooming" is so creepy.. He sees his opportunity as Max is out of action and Lauren is vulnerable. I find the scenes with Lauren almost chilling. In comparison to Whitney, Lauren is more childlike. :O
    Think they are heading for a Christmas finale with this story maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Nasty_Girl


    I find it creepy too, especially the way when he asked her over for tea and was asking her about her favourite bands ... I dunno what it was about it... he was talking to her like a child but like an adult at the same time ... ick ick ick ick

    But I don't understand why Lauren would have gone to his house, don't her and Whitney hate each other?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Cazlou


    Alessandra wrote: »
    They are gradually increasing the attention he is giving to Lauren. The so-called "grooming" is so creepy.. He sees his opportunity as Max is out of action and Lauren is vulnerable. I find the scenes with Lauren almost chilling. In comparison to Whitney, Lauren is more childlike. :O
    Think they are heading for a Christmas finale with this story maybe?

    It was said on tv last week that
    the storyline will be wrapped-up before christmas. And that Whitney tells Bianca


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    PAEDOPHILE Tony King’s perverted secret is out when Whitney Dean reveals their affair.

    #bodycopy a { font-size: 12px; }
    She turns 16 and tells mum Bianca her boyfriend has been having sex with her since she was 12.

    And all hell breaks loose as Bianca – played by Patsy Palmer, 36 – realises she has let a sexual predator into her home.

    Bianca tells Whitney (Shona McGarty, 16): “You were 12. He came into this family to be a father to you, Tiff and the boys and he abused you.

    “He is a paedophile. He’s an adult and you’re a child.”

    And Bianca quickly calls police who arrest Tony (Chris Coghill, 33) as he flees Walford.

    Fans will see the scenes – one of the the most controversial plots of the year – from next Monday.

    But executive producer Diederick Santer, 39, says: “Telling stories about difficult social issues is nothing new for the show.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    Is anybody watching it now? Its pretty awful!!! By awful i mean a sad storyline and difficult to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    I thought it was incredibly well acted, quite interested to see where they go with the storyline now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    Well acted yes but awful to watch, its such an immense story line


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