begging people in cars . . . .

mud

I was driving into town on Fri just gone, Was waiting for the lights at the junction of William St and Parnell St when this lady, looked like a gypsy, all scarves and bangles, can't say where she was from, starts begging from the drivers stopped at the lights, she was hardly able to walk, jerking limbs and crooked legs, poss a polio victim, she was falling onto bonnets and begging for money through the windscreen, I was freaked to be honest, surely there's somewhere who could look after someone as severely handicapped as this? Apart from the fact that she could have gone in under a car really easily, she was making people feel threatened and posing a real hazard on the street.

black & white

Not sure if it's the same person or not but I saw someone who would fit that description on Thomas street a few weeks ago, barely able to walk despite having a crutch, screaming and howling. I watched for a while and when the street was clear of people she had a quick look around and walked normally with the crutch under her arm up towards the Bagel Factory.

Itsdacraic

Was she wearing a blue shawl thing?

Saw her having her lunch in Subway last Saturday. No wonder she has to go begging if she eats in Subway the whole time.

blow_in

Me and the wife were down in the city center and witnessed some bold begging going on being from California I've seen plenty. The lady we saw was hanging on a ladies jacket wailing at her hoping the lady would give her some coin just to get rid of her. I felt bad for my son he really didn't know what to make of this.

black & white

Itsdacraic wrote: »

Was she wearing a blue shawl thing?

Saw her having her lunch in Subway last Saturday. No wonder she has to go begging if she eats in Subway the whole time.

I think so, there are several ladies who dress similarly and station themselves at various points around the city centre ( and one man as well ) all appear to have a disability of some kind. I believe they are dropped off in the morning and collected in the evenings.

zuroph

if u look at the crutch, if its still the same one, it has white tape near the top, ul spot several of them using this crutch. OP, take a read of a recent thread, limerick beggars. and dont believe these gypsies, they're professional beggars, and possibly better off than some of the posters on here. http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055368214

Jumpy

blow_in wrote: »

Me and the wife were down in the city center and witnessed some bold begging going on being from California I've seen plenty. The lady we saw was hanging on a ladies jacket wailing at her hoping the lady would give her some coin just to get rid of her. I felt bad for my son he really didn't know what to make of this.

She most likely was trying to get at her pockets. That shirt/trousers hanging thing is a physical contact excuse with the aim of pickpocketing.
NEVER let them do that.

karlr42

Are there any laws preventing this kind of thing? It happens in Dublin as well, I've seen it in other forums on boards.

pgroarke

This went on for a while a couple of years ago in Dublin.
A female gypsy (either carrying a baby or a doll wrapped in a shawl) would walk up lines of traffic near the Stillorgan junction of the N11 and also the Rathfarnham crossroads.

Now motorcyclists often use the gaps to weave through the traffic.
As a motorcyclist myself I have to say that pedestrians walking between lines of traffic is incredibly dangerous both for them and motorcyclists.
I could not believe my eyes when I saw a silly bint giving one of them money in Rathfarnham.
I pulled up alongside and screamed abuse in her window.
People just do not think.

krudler

mud wrote: »

I was driving into town on Fri just gone, Was waiting for the lights at the junction of William St and Parnell St when this lady, looked like a gypsy, all scarves and bangles, can't say where she was from, starts begging from the drivers stopped at the lights, she was hardly able to walk, jerking limbs and crooked legs, poss a polio victim, she was falling onto bonnets and begging for money through the windscreen, I was freaked to be honest, surely there's somewhere who could look after someone as severely handicapped as this? Apart from the fact that she could have gone in under a car really easily, she was making people feel threatened and posing a real hazard on the street.

shes not handicapped its a scam, theres a bunch of them who swap clothes with each other and do this, seen them late at night up by baker place all getting into a car and nothing wrong with them

Kess73

krudler wrote: »

shes not handicapped its a scam, theres a bunch of them who swap clothes with each other and do this, seen them late at night up by baker place all getting into a car and nothing wrong with them

Yep, climbing into the two cars that pick them up, Audi A4 and a VW Passat.


Same two cars do the pick ups down by the GPO also.

krudler

Kess73 wrote: »

Yep, climbing into the two cars that pick them up, Audi A4 and a VW Passat.


Same two cars do the pick ups down by the GPO also.

that'd be the ones, I'd love to nick her crutch one night and watch her chase after me for it, purely for her miracle healing that would take place

um7y1h83ge06nx

krudler wrote: »

that'd be the ones, I'd love to nick her crutch one night and watch her chase after me for it, purely for her miracle healing that would take place

Jesus, I don't so, so tempted to do that whenever I see them.

Any excuse to piss them off

krudler

Or go up and ask them for the change of a tenner

talkingclock

i'm working at a stall at the milkmarket on saturdays. last saturday both (the old on the crutches and the young) gypsies were walking around the market. everytime they were in front of my stall and were begging (literally grabbing peoples jackets!) i told the people loud enough not to give her a single penny.

but the most unbelievable thing happened when she aproached another beggar and he told her that he has only a rosary. and that cúnt demanded the rosary!!!

bazz26

karlr42 wrote: »

Are there any laws preventing this kind of thing? It happens in Dublin as well, I've seen it in other forums on boards.

There probably are but like most laws in this country, they are pointless unless they are enforced.

These so called beggers are well organised and rarely operate alone, they are well used of dealing with life on the streets back home where it is 100 times plus more dangerous than they have to deal with here.

snowman707

black & white wrote: »

Not sure if it's the same person or not but I saw someone who would fit that description on Thomas street a few weeks ago, barely able to walk despite having a crutch, screaming and howling. I watched for a while and when the street was clear of people she had a quick look around and walked normally with the crutch under her arm up towards the Bagel Factory.

that biddy is living out the dublin road, somewhere across from frank hogans
saw her walking in the rain one day & sonia o'sullivan wouldn't keep up with her.

there was a middle aged fellow begging off the cars stopped on sarsfield last thursday , was a danger to himself & to the traffic in general


a bunch of younger ones were in cruises street on friday morning with hand written notes, were mainly concentrating on elderly ladies, (maybe after collecting their OAP)

mud

there's also a gang of them that target the regional hospital, my Uncle was in there for six months so I saw this craic a lot, they turn up and scatter among the patients who are smoking or just getting some fresh air, scabbing fags and money, some really really young kids as well who would seriously crowd someone trying to scope their dressing gown pockets! then all in to a car and gone :mad:

source

bazz26 wrote: »

There probably are but like most laws in this country, they are pointless unless they are enforced.

These so called beggers are well organised and rarely operate alone, they are well used of dealing with life on the streets back home where it is 100 times plus more dangerous than they have to deal with here.

Actually begging is not illegal in Ireland any more, it was up until quite recently then one chap who got arrested for it in dublin and was convicted appealed the conviction and had it overturned, with the side effect that begging on the street is now perfectly legal.:mad::mad::mad:

gidget

You would want to have seen the scenario I saw yesterday at the shops where i live in Dublin. There is a Roma gypsie who does be begging at the shops Mon-Sun in the same spot. Yesterday myself and a whole load of others witnessed a man finally confront her over it and all hell broke loose. Talk about picking up our native language, she did not stop effing and blinding at the man. Now he was giving as good as he got and as we went into the shop we all finally thought that would be the end of it but as we came out it was still going on only the woman was now starting to hit out at him. Only for the intervention of another woman did it prevent him from doing the same thing back. I left at that stage as it was still going on, so i don't know what the final outcome was. Just goes to show that they are certainly getting confident about confronting people who stand up to them. She's lucky it wasn't me she started with I can tell you!!

karlr42

foinse wrote: »

Actually begging is not illegal in Ireland any more, it was up until quite recently then one chap who got arrested for it in dublin and was convicted appealed the conviction and had it overturned, with the side effect that begging on the street is now perfectly legal.:mad::mad::mad:

Do you have a source on that? Because if true, that's a scandal.

LovetohateTV

That's it im starting a new job begging next Monday. Just were to pick my spot now???...hmmmm

black & white

The best ones seem to be all taken, today there were 4 youngish wans with the little pieces of paper on Little Catherine St, a fat wan outside the small silver jewellery shop on William Street and another one outside the new 2 Euro shop across the road. Old Tom playing his accordian in his usual spot just off Cruises St and another headscarf woman on Thomas St. At least there were no chuggers on Cruises St.

D-A-V-E

a bunch of younger ones were in cruises street on friday morning with hand written notes, were mainly concentrating on elderly ladies, (maybe after collecting their OAP)[/QUOTE]


yup..this happened to me on the way to ul on the bus believe it or not, first of all they tried to scam their way on the bus skipping ppl and only payin 1 euro because they were 'under 17' eventhough they were about 35 ish! then they demanded this old lady to put her shopping on the floor because they wanted to sit beside eachother, then they went around sitting beside randomers including me giving them the note..bad form, i think something has to be done with these people..they have less respect then the knackers..

zuroph

karlr42 wrote: »

Do you have a source on that? Because if true, that's a scandal.

its common knowledge, run a search on google.

LadyTBolt

I cannot understand sometimes the society we live in.
Reputable charities fundraising on the streets using volunteers to shake a bucket around in the wind, cold and rain in the hope somebody approaches them to make a donation require a limited permit by the gardai to collect donations, yet hostile beggars have the legal privilige to harrass people for money until they give in and throw them anything as they feel threatened by their presence. How can that be justified and legal in our society?

source

karlr42 wrote: »

Do you have a source on that? Because if true, that's a scandal.

sure thing:

RTE
Irish Times

limericklad87

About 2 weeks ago i was walking up towards interflora from thomas street when i saw that shaking gypsy one grabbing everyone that passed..... she then crossed over the road towards two lads who were sitting outside a cafe relaxing..... she kept pestering them... almost sitting on their knees till the 2 lads eventually got up and left anf left the coffee there

sure one of the priests came out this week telling people not to give money anymore..... the beggars are coming in to the church while people are praying... was in the local paper this week

Sgt Hartman

The problem seems to be getting worse everywhere. They are getting more numerous and are getting much cheekier.

What I'd love to know is, who the hell are looking after these people and accommodating them?

Builderfromhell

Out for a stroll last night. Passing a shop front and looking in the window. Beggar in door way grabs my leg to get my attention. I trip over. I'm sure he didn't intend to trip me and maybe just saw me at last minute. Had I fallen I dread to think how I would have reacted.

zuroph

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

The problem seems to be getting worse everywhere. They are getting more numerous and are getting much cheekier.

What I'd love to know is, who the hell are looking after these people and accommodating them?

the gypsies? they're looking after themselves, theres nothing wrong with them.

Builderfromhell

I noticed the guys who clean your windscreen when stopped at traffic lights are back again at Punches cross. That's gotta be a traffic hazard for drivers as well as cyclists wizzing between cars. Surely this activity is illegal.

Kess73

There was two of them at Punches cross today, but the next time you pass that way and see them there, take a look at the kerb where the hedges are beside the Peony Court. Two are out in the cars, while two more sit on the kerb between the hedges. Strength in numbers.


They are back to the old trick they used to do in that area again, which is one just stands in front of the car, even if the lights are green and the rest come to the car from two sides and start knocking on the windows.

Insect Overlord

Saw the window-washers near Ivan's last week as well. Not sure if they were made to move on or not.

cul-2008

I saw those window washers too at Punches a few months ago - was in traffic, and the usual guy was working his way through the cars - targeting women more-so than men I noticed. The woman in the car in front of me clearly didnt want her windows washed, yet he started to do it anyway! Came to me and I just shook my head and he walked by.

I was looking in the rearview mirror when I noticed a garda in his 50's get out of an 08 passat, looked like he was just finished his shift, and walk over to the window washer, grabbed the bottle out of his hand, along with his squeegy, poured the contents onto the road, opened his boot and fired them in, told yer man where to go, and got back into his car!

A little more of that would go a long way!

concussion

It's a joke - these people are putting themselves and other road users at risk by standing out in traffic.
Was cycling over Sarsfield Bridge a few hours ago, there was a fella walking up the left hand side of the 'straight ahead' lane(ie, between that lane and the one for turning left onto Liddy Street), begging money from cars. I shouted at him as I was approaching and he just looked at me so I was forced to skip lanes to avoid him - the result of which was that I was nearly taken out by the traffic behind me as a due to my unannnounced manouvre.

And the worst thing about this is, even though he's the one wandering about in traffic, the motorist is going to be held responsible for anything that happens to him.

RVN10

Oh......Finally i have somewhere to rant bout these kunts . I swear if i walk up O'connell street one more time and dat old one with her crutch asks me for money I'M honestly gonna drop kick it from under her and see what happens. In the last week I been to town bout maybe 4 times and she comes up shaking to me my intial respone to her is F**K O** your getting nothin off me. Its starting to become a joke . I left town bout two weeks ago , driving down by the munster shop and I seen a married couple walking in and she latched onto the womans bag i was fit the jump out of the car , but I was delighted when one the lads inside came out and goes go on fu*k off now before i ring the guards she soon legged den .

There has to be way of stopping them because its going too far and personally i'm sick to death of it !!!

RANT OVER..

Mr E

I saw a group of those beggers (the ones with the piece of paper with "Help me I'm poor etc. etc." written on them) today.

Talking to each other in english, joking and laughing.

One of them stands in front of me, really serious face (like her life depends on me giving her money), holds the paper out and says "Ex...cuse....me" in broken english.

Complete bullshit.

Melion

Anyone see the guy at Punches cross today? He had a normal left leg, what looked like a pole where his right leg should have been, then his right leg was out in the open at the weirdest angle ive ever seen. It was too strange to explain properly.

unnameduser

i have my doubts about these type of ppl. i do not like giving charity to some absolute stranger that walks up to me and puts out their hand and begs, I would hate to think that the money i gave to someone would go towards fueling a drink or drug problem,or worse again, go back to a person who sent them out on the street on the first place

Y2J_MUFC

This is a pure scam, nothing wrong with her at all. Punch her in the face and give her something to scream about.

I've heard of the same group stealing wallets from people on nights out. They surround you and stick flowers in your face while one has your wallet away.

Break the crutch over her head. Shes scum. Whats worse is that people fall for it :mad:

Insect Overlord

I brought 3 college friends for a walk down O'Connell Street tonight (en route to Molly's from O'Connell Avenue), and was shocked by what I saw. There must have been 5 different beggars on the road between Browne Thomas and the Chicken Hut. Not all of them were Roma either.

My friends (from Cork, Clare and Kerry respectively) were appalled by what they saw. I tried to fill them in on some of the recent scams, and they could tell for themselves that one woman in particular looked very much like a junky. I was embarrassed to have to show my friends that side of Limerick City. It really made me feel ashamed. I don't believe I've experienced such feelings before.

mud

I was on my way up to mary i on thursday, stopped at the lights at punch's cross, fella there with a deformed leg, going up and down rubbing the def leg off the car windows, saw one little boy screaming in what i can only assume was terror in the back seat of one of the stopped cars, next thing an unmarked focus pulled across the traffic and called yer man over, two officers kept him there for a few mins then drove off, yer man walked (hopped) back down along scarlet head on him but smirking to cover up

seriously sick of this sh1te!

talkingclock

the old gipsy hag were giving the beggar's uniform to her younger colleagues this afternoon outside the milkmarket. she was in perfect condition: the crutch laying on the ground, shoving a curry into her mouth without the slightest sign of a tremor or shaking, balancing her heavy bag with both hands over the head onto her shoulder. and then off she walks bent down on the crutch shaking the hand and mumbling "hungry, hungry!".

the next time that c*nt approaches me i'll kick her crutch!

eroo

That elderly woman with the crutch is constantly hanging around the BOI ATM machines on O'Connell/ Thomas St. I was going to say it to a Garda if I saw one handy. Now that my suspicions have been confirmed next time I'm in town I am going to pop into Henry St. and ask them is there anything they could do?

source

eroo wrote: »

That elderly woman with the crutch is constantly hanging around the BOI ATM machines on O'Connell/ Thomas St. I was going to say it to a Garda if I saw one handy. Now that my suspicions have been confirmed next time I'm in town I am going to pop into Henry St. and ask them is there anything they could do?

eroo i refer you to post 19 of this very thread, it will provide the answer you seek

Aidric

These beggars are becoming a right menace on the streets. There is one guy in particular who is always down by Dunnes in Henry St.He always prowls up and down by cars stopped in traffic. This is going too far IMO.

MonsieurD

Foreign guy at Ivans Cross today going from car to car handing out what looked like "glossy" flyers. Everyone who was stopped at the lights (incl myself) downed the windows and accepted the "flyer". The guy continued up along the line of waiting traffic doing the same at every car.

However, stapled to the "glossy flyer" (which was a piece of a glossy page cut from Vogue or such like) was a piece of paper telling the usual tale of woe that these guys peddle.
At the end of the message, it said that the guy would return to your car and collect your donation or take the "flyer" back.

There's always a new marketing angle from these guys!

I watched everyone in the queue return the note without a donation. Well done to everyone who did this. It is the only way that all this intimidation at traffic lights will stop.

mud

"However, stapled to the "glossy flyer" (which was a piece of a glossy page cut from Vogue or such like) was a piece of paper telling the usual tale of woe that these guys peddle.
At the end of the message, it said that the guy would return to your car and collect your donation or take the "flyer" back."
- Monsieur D

innovation at it's finest!

slightly OT (soz) I had a polish lad call to my door with a picture that his 'dying sister' had drawn especially for me He showed me the picture which was a photocopied line drawing of a cat on a bunch of roses

weak with laughter I bid him good day

Would never give money to any doorstopper (I'm looking at you secondary school charity walkers!) Live on me lonesome anyway so don't answer the door if I don't know the score, The lad above caught me as I was getting the post, cheered me right up even though I was saddened to see what he was doing for a living

zuroph

saw the old one try put her hand on womans bag at the pedestrian crossing by debenhams, i stepped between, and when she started her shakes, i sang "she's got the hippy hippy shakes"

Tech3

there always seems to be one or two around the junction from childers road turning onto the crescent. Hopefully people are being alerted to this as I saw it in the limerick independent lately, every time i passed tehm, i havnt seen a driver give them money.