Beware: Those scrap cars lying about could land you in Jail!

Run_to_da_hills

The Government has authorised local authorities and the EPA to scour the country for "illegal scrapyards". They will be using the latest technology including Helicopters and satalites.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/choppers-spy-on-car-dumps-1478470.html

Many of you have old cars lying about your properry. If your back yard looks like the following you could get prison and huge fiine. Big Brother is watching you ! :eek:

corktina

have you put up the wrong pic? all i can see is a large ,neat stack of valuable auto-jumble....

dutchcat

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Government has authorised local authorities and the EPA to scour the country for "illegal scrapyards". They will be using the latest technology including Helicopters and satalites.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/choppers-spy-on-car-dumps-1478470.html

Many of you have old cars lying about your properry. If your back yard looks like the following you could get prison and huge fiine, :eek:

what a lovely garden,wish it was mine:)

oflynno

no you can be prosecuted if you own that garden as there is a shopping trolley belonging to super-valu there and they will take you to court over its theft! :D

NoSummer

So thats where I left my car.....

Run_to_da_hills

oflynno wrote: »

no you can be prosecuted if you own that garden as there is a shopping trolley belonging to super-valu there and they will take you to court over its theft! :D

No, there is a Euro deposit still stuck in that trolley


Its still mine

carchaeologist

corktina wrote: »

have you put up the wrong pic? all i can see is a large ,neat stack of valuable auto-jumble....

I agree..he would want to be shot out of that helicopter,have they nothing better to be doing with themselves up there in dublin!!:mad::mad:

corktina

i heard they havent got a helicopter anymore...its in a hotel/school car park near the beach isnt it? someone ought to prosceute them for leaving helicopter scrap all over the place....

macplaxton

Aye but one man's scrap is another's "quality used spares"

gyppo

Tbh, I think the initiative on clamping down is long overdue, and I welcome it.

Now before you all jump up and down on me, I used to live in a quiet rural area. That was before a person living in the locality decided to go into the scrap business.

At this moment, there are easily 1000+ scrapped cars on this premises, with fluids from these leaching into the water table, and posing a significant pollution threat. I have a bored well about 1km from this site, which I depend on for my water supply.

On a daily basis, the road has a traffic level of 70+ cars (many of which are the boy racer brigade, which treat it as a rallying stage), so I for one would shed no tears to see this place gone.


Scrapyards do have a place and play an important role, and there have been plenty of times I've needed to go to such places, but they should be managed in a way that is not harmful to the environment.

Now, provided that a bit of commonsense is applied , I would hope that those who try and preserve old cars in their own backyards will not be targeted.

ianobrien

There are two sides to this. The first, is Gyppo's case, where the one or two turns out to be hundreds, and it turns into a full time scrapyard. These uncontrolled scrapyards are a hazard, I feel, and should be regulated.

The other, I'd say is the fella who has one or two kept for parts etc or is a long term project. These, I think are actually reducing pollution (end of life etc) and should be left alone. I imagine that's most of us here.

Now, I must confess that I've got a car out the back that, according to some, is dumped so I hope that there is some common sense displayed. I've also got friends into rallying, and they have one or three cars in their yards for body panels etc.

I suppose the best way of making the distinction is if the parts off the cars are being sold, it's a business and should be regulated. If they are for private use only, they should be exempt, within a certain limit naturally.

Silvera

I too would not like to see private owners with a few old cars lying about being prosecuted.....I don't believe they will be tbh. I suspect the EPA etc are after full time 'illegal' (i.e. not regulated) scrapyards.

There needs to be (reasonable!) regulation of such yards...i.e. to ensure oil, brake fluids, etc are not left to drain into water tables, etc.
Plus there is the visual impact of such yards....many owners of these yards seem to lack the common sense to erect high fences, gates etc (or even plant rows of trees!) to lessen the visual impact of their yards from the roadside or nearby houses.

I have an article from the Irish Times 'Motors' supplement dated 31 October 2007. Headline - "60 illegal scrapyards uncovered". The article goes on to mention that Cork Co Co identified these 60 yards in Co. Cork .....went on to close 15 of them - nine more yards were in the process of closing down and a further nine were in the process of regularising their situation. Fines of up to €15 million (and jail sentences of up to 10 years are mentioned). However the article later mentions fines of €3000 and up to 12 months in jail (which can be imposed in District Courts).

In summary...I would suggest that anybody with a few cars in their back yards needn't be worried...it's the full-time yards they are targeting.

Having said that, perhaps private owners of scrapped cars should make more of an effort to 'manage' their scrapped cars ..i.e. by draining the vehicles fluids, removing/draining/disposing of batterys (to recycling centres!) ...and perhaps consider placing such vehicles in a shed or otherwise covering them up to lessen their visual impact.

oflynno

and whats with the need for a helicopter?
the carbon foot print of that yoke ,for feck sake

if they can't sort out the ****e we can all see from the road and prosecute the real offenders and leave genuine peeps alone,they should be closed down

helicopters me eyeball

MercMad

I agree with you Silvera, completely, well put !!

fastrac

with the price of scrap they will be lucky to find anything

steveone

4 more years and i'm outa here...
fcking gormley... In one deft move he turns the domestic car market on the head.. he renders all petrol vehicles practically worthless while allowing the forecourters profiteer with diesel and then.. once we've turned off our engines he orders the great and bored to go out and fine us for having them...

I am so sick of this country.... really.
I have a '93 xm prestige, 2 ltr..idle
'02 alfa 166 2.0 6spd....idle...
'87 190e 2ltr...idle....

he's the man.....

Max_Damage

steveone wrote: »

4 more years and i'm outa here...
fcking gormley... In one deft move he turns the domestic car market on the head.. he renders all petrol vehicles practically worthless while allowing the forecourters profiteer with diesel and then.. once we've turned off our engines he orders the great and bored to go out and fine us for having them...

I am so sick of this country.... really.
I have a '93 xm prestige, 2 ltr..idle
'02 alfa 166 2.0 6spd....idle...
'87 190e 2ltr...idle....

he's the man.....

America's the place to go, cheap petrol and V8's everywhere!

Run_to_da_hills

Max_Damage wrote: »

America's the place to go, cheap petrol and V8's everywhere!

But they all have guns over there :eek:

oflynno

i agree with the guy stuck near the scrapyard in a sense

if the fluids are going everywhere,then its a health/environmental issue

if you have cars for parts,then you should be left alone(on a personal scale)

my wife thinks my hilux should be impounded cos she hates it