Aston Villa - Match Thread

Hatch99

OK, I know we're not playing til Monday but I said Id start the thread nice and early seeing as its so quiet and we have'nt played in 2 weeks.
I think we'll all agree that 3 points are badly needed to get our season kick-started. I'll have a stab at team selection.

Gomes,Corluka,King,Woodgate,Bale,Zokora,Jenas,Modric,Bentley,Lennon, Bent.

I have gone with Lennon instead of Gio as Lennon will be nice and fresh having not being involved with Eng, and Gio was away with Mexcico , although Gio may well get the nod !!

I have also gone with Bent, as I can see Pav getting introduced to English football bit by bit, again I may be wide of the mark.

No matter who plays, I really hope we get 3 pts and get the season rolling.

yiddo

3-1 to the Spurs

RichMc70

I can't see another 4-4 but won't be suprised to see plenty of goals.

I'll take any scoreline that gives us all 3 points especially as I'll be cheering them on from Park Lane.:pac:

tippspur

At last a game to talk about,Can't wait to see how we perform in this game, even though were at home its not going to be easy against Villa,there a hard team to beat these days home or away.Its a big game for us and 3 points would be a relief more than anything,it's also start of a six match run in the space of a short time with cc cup and uefa cup in the mix so a lot could be decided in the next couple of weeks.plenty to talk about for a change anyway.

therecklessone

RichMc70 wrote: »

I can't see another 4-4 but won't be suprised to see plenty of goals.

I'll take any scoreline that gives us all 3 points especially as I'll be cheering them on from Park Lane.:pac:

Dublin Spur will be around mate, give him a PM.

brozio

i'm going for a 2-1 win for us.

can anybody recommend a pub to watch the match in Galway city?

Spider_Baby!

Id like to see Bent and Pav start alongside each other, havent been at all impressed by our attempts at a 4-5-1. Lookin forward to seein Corluka also.

Kold

Coverage on..?

Hatch99

Spider_Baby! wrote: »

Id like to see Bent and Pav start alongside each other, havent been at all impressed by our attempts at a 4-5-1. Lookin forward to seein Corluka also.

Id be suprised if we did'nt see the 4231 formation again as I think its the way Juande will play most of the time !!

sew

looking forward to the corluka signing, however, also looking forward to seen Alan Hutton back- was immense end of season run in for us.

Anyone here on Coys?

ditrock

Kold wrote: »

Coverage on..?

Coverage on Setanta I believe

Lets Go 4 - 4 - 2 with Pav and Bent up front, Im sure they have been training together and we need to put our best foot forward for this one.

Oh and if we win this game by more than 2 goals we go ahead of Man Yoo on goal difference and move up to a more respectable mid table...

If we lose this game we remain bottom of the table with less points than the likes of Champions League chasing Hull City and Mid Tabke Stoke, what is the premierleague coming to???

COYS

Kold

ditrock wrote: »

Coverage on Setanta I believe

Lets Go 4 - 4 - 2 with Pav and Bent up front, Im sure they have been training together and we need to put our best foot forward for this one.

Oh and if we win this game by more than 2 goals we go ahead of Man Yoo on goal difference and move up to a more respectable mid table...

If we lose this game we remain bottom of the table with less points than the likes of Champions League chasing Hull City and Mid Tabke Stoke, what is the premierleague coming to???

COYS

Feckin Setanta, I have Sky Sports Any live streams?

ditrock

Kold wrote: »

Feckin Setanta, I have Sky Sports Any live streams?

Not usually, call up some mates or get down to the pub or alternatively

log on to spurs.co.uk go to live match and keep pressing F5 (not the best option) :rolleyes:

Hatch99

Try http://www.fsicrew.info/streams/todays-links/

rocky25

3-0 to the Spurs if we play 4-4-2 and speed up our buildup play.

Passing the ball across the pitch too much, enables the other team to get more bodies behind the ball.

Kiith

Ya, looking good so far...bottom of the table with 1 point in 4 games.

SuprSi

Oh dear, we are so crap. Another loss at home, against a non-top 4 team. 1 point in 4 games, and Chelsea result aside, not a single decent performance to speak of.

twilight_singer

So same old story really. No leadership out on that pitch, both goals so far have been down to errors, still too many average players in our team. Half of them look like they dont know what to do when they get the ball. Total contrast compared to Villa who are well organised, hard working and look like they have a game plan, Imagine having one of them!:rolleyes:

SuprSi

We're definitely missing leadership, but there's also no fluidity to our play. We play it out of defence up to someone in an attacking position, and then everyone is standing still. All of the fancy moves we had in pre-season are gone and we look like a team that has never played with each other.

As I type it in goes a jammy goal.

therecklessone

twilight_singer wrote: »

Total contrast compared to Villa who are well organised, hard working and look like they have a game plan, Imagine having one of them!:rolleyes:

Judging from radio commentary alone, sounds like the difference between both teams comes almost entirely from the touchline.

I am very concerned with Ramos' team selection tonight.

SuprSi

I'm very concerned overall, not just with the team selection. This season is looking very, very bad, and the fact that we have won only something like 5 games this calendar year is very troubling.

twilight_singer

worst start in 34 years :eek:

twilight_singer

therecklessone wrote: »

I am very concerned with Ramos' team selection tonight.

Ramos has to take his share of the blame defo, but look at the players same story as last season some of them are just fcuking lazy. Jenas, huddlestone, dawson and lennon are all there long enough to stand up and be counted but they are simply not good enough. I lost count of the amount of times lennon gave the ball away, Jenas only plays well when things are going good and just doesnt have it for this level.

Scall4life

Not sure bout that team selection tonite. Zokora and the Hudd in the middle. Looking like another long season! :(

estebancambias

Spurs have a lot od deadwood in their team.

Good keeper despite his mistake

An average right back
In theory good central defence(King and Woodgat)
a good left back

Jenas-Spurs level..has good qualities
Modric-unproven
dos santos-looked decent
Bentley-should be good

Bent and Pavlyuchenko are quite one dimensional players in comparison to Keane and Berbatov.

Roman is not far off Keane but not a good enough replacement.

Villain

Hard luck lads, I thought you were going to nick a point, sadly I don't think you have improved on a year ago when Jol was sacked, if anything the team was better then but there is still quality there I just hope Ramos gets time to turn it around.

tippspur

Jaysus that was so bad,very lucky we weren't hit for six tonight.wtf was going on with the team selection.very disappointing to have to watch this shyte from spurs.:mad:

Kold

Shocking. Same gameplan. We have 6/7 players in no mans land who can barely string a pass never mind penetrate and then when the other team breaks our defence looks terribly flimsy. We really need someone to run that midfield so that it doesn't become a game of hoof it into a crowded box and hope that one of ours will knock it in.

Hatch99

Disgraceful.

18 odd million on David Bentley and he has'nt once played on the right, his normal position.
As I have stated several times, Zokora is crap, again tonight he proved it.No defensive midfielder bought in the summer, why ???
Dawson is rubbish, no centre half bought all summer. Why ???
Corluka, how bad a debut was that, was hiding the whole 2nd half, surely he's better than that !!
Huddelstone, still overweight and not mobile enough for the Premiership.

Pav was poor but I certainly wont judge him on tonight,I would'nt have started him to be honest, he'll take time to settle.
Why was Jenas Bentley and King left out of the starting line up ?? Apart from a half hour for Jenas, none of them have kicked a ball in 2 weeks, rested my bollo*.

Gomes was crap for there 2nd, although I still think he's gonna be a good signing.

Gio looked threatening when he came on, but too little too late.

What did they say, worst start for 34 years, does'nt look good.

The manager is under HUGE pressure. His team looked all over the place for large spells today, aswell as at the Riverside and against Sunderland.

Is it too soon to call for his head ? Im undecided.

Joycee

I'm 34 years old and have supported Spurs all my life... and every year I think this time we'll get off to a good start, we've signed some good players and got rid of a lot of driftwood and two traitors.. This is a new low for me because of the manner of three of our defeats to date, we didnt even play nice football. Is it just me or do we resort to the long ball hoof up the field every time Dawson is playing. Only glimmer of hope for me was Dos Santos looked lively when he came on, but I'll be depressed going in to work tomorrow. Wigan at home next Sunday and Pompey away sunday after that. Have a feeling Defoe will be looking forward to that one...

rocky25

Modric doesn't seem to have any bottle, a couple of hard tackles and he goes missing.

He just wasn't up for it tonight and didn't seem injured when he wanted to go off.

They looked like a bunch of strangers who just met in the carpark before the match.

Bently couldn't even take a proper corner.

Defense weak, Midfield poor and no proper movement off the ball by our two strikers.

Ramos still doesn't know who his best team is, maybe it will take a while for all the new players to blend in.

Roll on thurs when we can put this right and get back to winning ways.

therecklessone

twilight_singer wrote: »

Ramos has to take his share of the blame defo, but look at the players same story as last season some of them are just fcuking lazy. Jenas, huddlestone, dawson and lennon are all there long enough to stand up and be counted but they are simply not good enough. I lost count of the amount of times lennon gave the ball away, Jenas only plays well when things are going good and just doesnt have it for this level.

Why leave Bentley on the bench when Lennon is so ineffective? Why not play entley on the right when he came on?

Why play Dawson when King is available, or when he could have put Corluka in a CB and played Gunter at RB?

I agree with your assessment of some of the players, but the buck should stop with the man picking them IMO. I didn't see tonight's game as I'm away, so had to make do with Radio London's commentary, but I found the team selection bewildering to be honest.

monvoy

You're right joycee! Dawson is shyte! He shouldn't be allowed near WHL again! Villa left him for dead for 2nd goal then he commits an awful foul....what does he do when he does get the ball? Hoof it to no where. He's not the only one though. Lennon gives away possession too cheaply and should know better by now that he has to up his game, also Huddlestone is far too slow for this level. King should be played every game until he can't walk anymore..we've been carrying him too long now. The two teenagers (Bale and Gio) were the only glimmer of hope that I could see. Bently couldn't even strike dead ball . As for Ramos ... well I still think he is a good manager and calling for his head at this atage is a bit of a kneejerk reaction IMO.
Apart from all the above I think we are a good team and will always support them. We just need a kick start
Lets hope for 3 points at the weekend eh?

COYS

tippspur

therecklessone wrote: »

Why leave Bentley on the bench when Lennon is so ineffective? Why not play entley on the right when he came on?

Why play Dawson when King is available, or when he could have put Corluka in a CB and played Gunter at RB?

I agree with your assessment of some of the players, but the buck should stop with the man picking them IMO. I didn't see tonight's game as I'm away, so had to make do with Radio London's commentary, but I found the team selection bewildering to be honest.

Spot on, corluka cb and gunter rb was the way to go for def.

BERBA

I dont understand why the manager doesnt come out and speak to the press in english...he's had almost a year to do it , IMO i think he's under huge pressure now to get it right , his team selection last night was strange to say the least. The carling cup which was keeping him going is now long gone. next 2 home games v wigan and hull are massive games. Very frustrated at the mo , going a couple of years unbeaten in pre season means fcuk all when you pick up 4 pts in 6 games for the last 3 seasons , in fact the way we goin it could be worse than that this season.

yiddo

Totally disjointed performance. Looked like 11 guys who'd only just met. It's gonna be a long season...

John W

BERBA wrote: »

I don't understand why the manager doesn't come out and speak to the press in english...he's had almost a year to do it , IMO i think he's under huge pressure now to get it right , his team selection last night was strange to say the least. The carling cup which was keeping him going is now long gone. next 2 home games v wigan and hull are massive games. Very frustrated at the mo , going a couple of years unbeaten in pre season means fcuk all when you pick up 4 pts in 6 games for the last 3 seasons , in fact the way we goin it could be worse than that this season.

I think he pretends not to be able to speak the Engleesh to well so he doesn't have to do the press conferences (poor ol Gus)

He's team selection was just wrong, and he needs to admit that. Saving King is killing us, just killing us. We need to count our losses and get a full time replacement, keep King on as third string, changing the formation all the time to accommodate a crocked player does us no favours, we need to get a solid back four that plays every week - Oh and Dawson is not part of that equation, rubbish, just rubbish.

Even the lads on Setanta when asked who would win, basically said they slightly leaned toward Spurs, but when they seen the team selection they all said Villa and they were right - If, the whole world can see it, what the hell is going on. He saw how well we did against chelski, and yet, he changed the whole team and formation, madness.

The ONLY 2 reasons are, Saving private King (as stated above BS) and saving other players for UEFA - Like the premiership is not worthy, and the fact that we needed a win to get us off the bottom (and out of laughing stock land) and build a bit of confidence means nothing - Just a wrong decision in my book.

The question is, has he learnt he's lesson (I would say he won't admit he was wrong). Did he see he screwed up the formation and saving people is a bad idea, or will he just blame the players - If he does the latter, we are in for a very bad season.:mad:

keane=cock

tippspur wrote: »

Spot on, corluka cb and gunter rb was the way to go for def.

that is until the hun hutton returns:D

lennon i wouldnt sell him a spurs shirt if i worked in marathon sports. wouldnt cross his legs the useless fu~ker.
disagree with the stick jenas is gettin, him bale and giovani were decent in a very lack luster performance.
not a big bent fan by any stretch of the imagination but he got no service last night so wont heap the blame on him.
ive called for robbos head for a couple of seasons. i think we got a replacemnt for him alright. a carbon copy!!!!

twilight_singer

John W wrote: »

He's team selection was just wrong, and he needs to admit that. Saving King is killing us, just killing us. We need to count our losses and get a full time replacement, keep King on as third string, changing the formation all the time to accommodate a crocked player does us no favours, we need to get a solid back four that plays every week - Oh and Dawson is not part of that equation, rubbish, just rubbish.


The question is, has he learnt he's lesson (I would say he won't admit he was wrong). Did he see he screwed up the formation and saving people is a bad idea, or will he just blame the players - If he does the latter, we are in for a very bad season.:mad:

Totally agree about King, we treat him like some sort of messiah, If he cant play a game after two weeks rest then I think the game is up for him. As much as I like him and think he's been a great player in the past for us, we need a regular centre back partnership. Dawson has had his chance, maybe Corluka will end up there but on last nights performance id have doubts about him.
I see Ramos has blamed the players this morning, they were shocking but hardly the best move, the midfield was not up to it last night poor selection on his part.
I'm getting stick of a load of gooners and chelscum fans this morning in work.


Please God not another sh1t league campaign!

aidodo

keane=cock wrote: »

lennon i wouldnt sell him a spurs shirt if i worked in marathon sports. wouldnt cross his legs the useless fu~ker.
disagree with the stick jenas is gettin, him bale and giovani were decent in a very lack luster performance.
not a big bent fan by any stretch of the imagination but he got no service last night so wont heap the blame on him.
ive called for robbos head for a couple of seasons. i think we got a replacemnt for him alright. a carbon copy!!!!

well said. I cant believe lennon is a professional footballer. it's a joke.Same goes for Dawson.

I thought JJ was our best player last night.He was superb last season too.

Bent and Pav got no service in the 2nd half last night.

Have we scored a goal yet that wasnt a jammy deflection ?