Stanley Solid Fuel Stove

Planet X

Am thinking of getting one in the TV room, Oisin, small one. Called a Stanley showroom , got the price etc. No problem.
I asked if they installed it, yes they would. Approx how much, they cannot say, estimate, they cannot say, could be the price of the unit, could be triple the price of the unit etc etc etc.
Would it cost E100? They don't know. Would it cost E500? They don't know. Call out to check it out, E100.
Is this a license to print money? It's putting me off buying one now!!!!!!
What's the craic?
Anyone know?

crosstownk

I bought one of these. I haven't used it yet so I can't tell you what it's like. But I did get it from Gings hardware store in Port Laoise a few weeks ago - it was on special offer at €399. You may need a flue too which will cost a bit more. I priced the flue with Gings but it was mad money - my builder is sourcing one much cheaper.

More info (scroll down a wee bit) > http://www.gings.ie/stanley%20offers.htm

As for the installation, it depends where you are locating it. In an existing fireplace would be the cheapest option. If holes have to be made for the flue or if the flue has to run through an attic space then it will obviously cost more. I've no idea how much the installation of my stove is costing as it's price is included with a heap of other building work I'm having done.

Carlow52

I got a quote of 600 euro just now for installing a Charnwood SLX 20 in a prepared ope which I think expensive.

Planet X

That's what I mean, the seem to be able and capable of just picking any number and sticking it on you price wise.


It's going in an existing fireplace.

Carlow52

Just more intel on this installation issue: just got a quote for installation for the same stove: 2 men for a day, including several hrs traveling each way 600 euro incl VAT at 13.5%

Planet X

Are you going for it?
Doesn't seem to be any other way out unless you get a guy to do a nixer and who knows what he's doing.

Carlow52

Was up in NI today looking at stoves today and the consensus seems to be that using a single walled SS flue liner is the way to go to ensure a good seal in the flue.
Given that it is almost the same cost as the stove [Stg 780] for 8 meters c/w top and bottom flanges/fixings] one one want to be convinced.

The argument seems to be that it is very difficult to get a proper seal between a 5" exhaust from the stove into a 9" flue, given that the access is very limited unless u punch a hole in the chimney above the stove.
Thanks.

Eurorunner

Carlow52 wrote: »

The argument seems to be that it is very difficult to get a proper seal between a 5" exhaust from the stove into a 9" flue, given that the access is very limited unless u punch a hole in the chimney above the stove.

This is the first I've heard of this. If I have this right, your saying that you have a lined flue already but are getting advice to run stainless steel liner all the way up on the basis that its not possible to fit a pipe from stove exhaust and flue opening??
Will have to do this myself in a few weeks time and my understanding is that there are two other options that are feasible;

1. Get a 'register plate' made up and fix and seal the pipe to it.
2. Use a pipe and attach a short length of flexible liner to it and seal it to the flue opening.
The first being recommended practice. The second not recommended but my understanding is that its still possible if executed correctly.

Having to run a liner all the way up is a big and unnecessary expense.

Carlow52

Eurorunner wrote: »

This is the first I've heard of this. If I have this right, your saying that you have a lined flue already but are getting advice to run stainless steel liner all the way up on the basis that its not possible to fit a pipe from stove exhaust and flue opening??
Will have to do this myself in a few weeks time and my understanding is that there are two other options that are feasible;

1. Get a 'register plate' made up and fix and seal the pipe to it.
2. Use a pipe and attach a short length of flexible liner to it and seal it to the flue opening.
The first being recommended practice. The second not recommended but my understanding is that its still possible if executed correctly.

Having to run a liner all the way up is a big and unnecessary expense.

Eurorunner:
Am no expert on this, just relaying what I have picked up:)

The critical issue seems to be whether u have access above the stove into the chimney to allow u do the sealing properly, which may be why the external flue in the room breaking into the chimney may be an attractive option

The other argument relates to cleaning, which is usually from top down, depending on the stove: the suggestion is that with the register plate or similar the big brush can very easily knock it out/break the seal that will be of fire cement as the stove flue dia will be much less.
The concern seems to be that u wont see the damage and that soot can then collect on the top of the stove and be a fire hazard

The SS flue, being the same diameter all the way down is not as prone to this problem.

The SS flue will heat up much quicker and thus reduce resin/tar deposit buildup.
can u PM me the stove u are doing/ I will reciprocate
Thanks

Carlow52

FYI:
The current (October) Issue of
"Ireland Homes Interiors and Living" has a good section on stoves.

Carlow52

I spent most of yesterday trying to source a suitable stove for delivery before end 2008.

Most shops were quoting Jan 2009 and that was with a 50% deposit.

I eventually found one supplier who has the widest range I have seen, most if not all in stock and very reasonable prices. PM if interested in Charnwood/Stovax/RIVA/Waterford Stanley or similar.

jack of all

I ordered an Oisin stove (no boiler) yesterday and expect delivery this week; I plan to install it myself as there's a good deal of remodelling of the ex. fireplace required to get the look I want. The stove cost me €400 and the pipe, bend, connector etc came to another €160 (probably could have got this stuff cheaper elsewhere but I was happier to deal with the one supplier). I imagine if I were getting someone to do this job it could easily cost €600+ as there's a fair bit of messing involved: take up ex. hearth, break out front and remove surround, break out fireback, clean back and render ope, fit new hearth, fit stove, make good etc. Of course there's also the dreaded job of cleaning the chimney first (god I hate that dirty job). For me the only option for subsequent cleaning appears to be sweeping from the top down, a real chore in a two storey house but I'm hoping the stove will be worth it.