The joys of smoking!

Zangetsu

4.43pm, whacked on a half jar of coffee and dying for a smoke (off them about a month now) can't stop twitching. think I'm gonna crack, even thinking about that first little drag, the taste of sulpher off the match as you breath in all the chemical wonders of a JP Blue, the feeling of the smoke racing down your lungs injecting you with a dose of nicotine that runs through your veins like an electric wave of joy. Your head goes light for just a moment as you hold it in.... Bliss.... You exhale in one slooooow breath and a smile creeps across your face. The world is at peace again for another hour. *sigh of relief* ... I miss it...

I think I'm gonna cry


Here's a question for ya's:

Death: you don't fear nor believe in it in a permanent sence. So smoking, getting cancer and kicking the bucket isn't a problem... But there is an ethical issue inside this and my own personal dilemma.... Most quit for health, I quit because its unfair to those around me that do fear death.

It's unfair to family and friends if you end up 6 foot under "before your time".

On the other hand is it wrong to deny yourself one of the fundimental joys of being alive: the right to smoke whatever the **** you want :pac: (some call it freedom of choice)...

If you choose one you will always be split thinking about the other, a never ending cycle of self-observation analytical reporting cognition of conscious inner thoughts, desires and sensations.

All this because of a ciggerette :eek: Don't know which hurts more, the cravings or the thoughts caused by them :pac:

Overheal

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The Walsho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKueV7_eXA0

Ronan H

Zangetsu wrote: »

...end up 6 foot under "before your time"...

That is quite a thought...

Head

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

People will always find some excuse for feeding an addiction.

FIGHT THE POWAHH!!!

Kernel

Zangetsu wrote: »

On the other hand is it wrong to deny yourself one of the fundimental joys of being alive: the right to smoke whatever the **** you want :pac: (some call it freedom of choice)...

If you choose one you will always be split thinking about the other, a never ending cycle of self-observation analytical reporting cognition of conscious inner thoughts, desires and sensations.

All this because of a ciggerette :eek: Don't know which hurts more, the cravings or the thoughts caused by them :pac:

Go into a lung cancer ward, or look at some of the people with emphysema gasping through oxygen masks. Death is the easy part lad.

HalloweenJack

I love to smoke. It's one of the best legal buzzes.

BUT...it's not worth the health risks.

Supercell

OP it will pass, eventually your love of them will turn to revulsion to the smell of people that do, at least thats how it worked for me eventually after quitting. I was a 40 a day guy for about 16 years.

Kold

It would only be good because of the addiction. Get through this and you win.

AlmightyCushion

It's only the withdrawal symptoms of not being cool anymore. The only way to stop it is to start smoking and be cool again.

Zillah

Kernel wrote: »

Go into a lung cancer ward, or look at some of the people with emphysema gasping through oxygen masks. Death is the easy part lad.

Stop ruining smoking for me!

impr0v

The average craving only lasts 20 seconds.

Wait until you're about a year off them to address the metaphysical questions about the habit, because the dopamine deficiency is affecting your ability to rationalise.

The ash from my cigarette is dropping in between the keys so i'm not typing anymore.

Jet Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EnoRhTFqrE

GirlInterrupted

Zangetsu wrote: »

4.43pm, whacked on a half jar of coffee and dying for a smoke (off them about a month now) can't stop twitching. think I'm gonna crack, even thinking about that first little drag, the taste of sulpher off the match as you breath in all the chemical wonders of a JP Blue, the feeling of the smoke racing down your lungs injecting you with a dose of nicotine that runs through your veins like an electric wave of joy. Your head goes light for just a moment as you hold it in.... Bliss.... You exhale in one slooooow breath and a smile creeps across your face. The world is at peace again for another hour. *sigh of relief* ... I miss it...

I think I'm gonna cry


Here's a question for ya's:

Death: you don't fear nor believe in it in a permanent sence. So smoking, getting cancer and kicking the bucket isn't a problem... But there is an ethical issue inside this and my own personal dilemma.... Most quit for health, I quit because its unfair to those around me that do fear death.

It's unfair to family and friends if you end up 6 foot under "before your time".

On the other hand is it wrong to deny yourself one of the fundimental joys of being alive: the right to smoke whatever the **** you want :pac: (some call it freedom of choice)...

If you choose one you will always be split thinking about the other, a never ending cycle of self-observation analytical reporting cognition of conscious inner thoughts, desires and sensations.

All this because of a ciggerette :eek: Don't know which hurts more, the cravings or the thoughts caused by them :pac:

OP, bear in mind that bein a non-smoker makes you many millions of times more attractive to most women....

Hope that helps.

Turd Ferguson

Zillah wrote: »

Stop ruining smoking for me!

Just like steak and potatos my good man. These mere mortals shall never quite grasp the joys of a good smoke!!

Whatever about the health risks, which are hard to associate with until it's too late...
Smoking - your whole life is controlled by a bit of dried tobacco plant wrapped in paper - think about how pathetic that is.

Carroller16

Smoking cessation timeline - the health benefits over time
In 20 minutes, your blood pressure and pulse rate decrease, and the body temperature of your hands and feet increase.
Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke reduces the blood’s ability to carry oxygen.

At 8 hours, the carbon monoxide level in your blood decreases to normal. With the decrease in carbon monoxide, your blood oxygen level increases to normal.

At 24 hours, your risk of having a heart attack decreases.

At 48 hours, nerve endings start to regrow and the ability to smell and taste is enhanced.

Between 2 weeks and 3 months, your circulation improves, walking becomes easier and you don’t cough or wheeze as often. Phlegm production decreases. Within several months, you have significant improvement in lung function.

In 1 to 9 months, coughs, sinus congestion, fatigue and shortness of breath decrease as you continue to see significant improvement in lung function. Cilia, tiny hair-like structures that move mucus out of the lungs, regain normal function.

In 1 year, risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack is reduced to half that of a smoker.

Between 5 and 15 years after quitting, your risk of having a stroke returns to that of a non-smoker.

In 10 years, your risk of lung cancer drops. Additionally, your risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney and pancreas decrease. Even after a decade of not smoking however, your risk of lung cancer remains higher than in people who have never smoked. Your risk of ulcer also decreases.

In 15 years, your risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack in similar to that of people who have never smoked. The risk of death returns to nearly the level of a non-smoker.

Turd Ferguson

Carroller16 wrote: »

Smoking cessation timeline - the health benefits over time
In 20 minutes, your blood pressure and pulse rate decrease, and the body temperature of your hands and feet increase.
Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke reduces the blood’s ability to carry oxygen.

At 8 hours, the carbon monoxide level in your blood decreases to normal. With the decrease in carbon monoxide, your blood oxygen level increases to normal.

At 24 hours, your risk of having a heart attack decreases.

At 48 hours, nerve endings start to regrow and the ability to smell and taste is enhanced.

Between 2 weeks and 3 months, your circulation improves, walking becomes easier and you don’t cough or wheeze as often. Phlegm production decreases. Within several months, you have significant improvement in lung function.

In 1 to 9 months, coughs, sinus congestion, fatigue and shortness of breath decrease as you continue to see significant improvement in lung function. Cilia, tiny hair-like structures that move mucus out of the lungs, regain normal function.

In 1 year, risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack is reduced to half that of a smoker.

Between 5 and 15 years after quitting, your risk of having a stroke returns to that of a non-smoker.

In 10 years, your risk of lung cancer drops. Additionally, your risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney and pancreas decrease. Even after a decade of not smoking however, your risk of lung cancer remains higher than in people who have never smoked. Your risk of ulcer also decreases.

In 15 years, your risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack in similar to that of people who have never smoked. The risk of death returns to nearly the level of a non-smoker.

Yeah, but we look cool :cool:

jaycen

GirlInterrupted wrote: »

OP, bear in mind that bein a non-smoker makes you many millions of times more attractive to most women....

Hope that helps.

Assuming the lady in question doesn't smoke herself (quite a few do).

Off the damn things over 5 months now and I don't miss them (much), there are still times of extreme weakness (pub or when I get a good sniff).

A good reason beats all the good intentions/advice, my partner is pregnant and I still enjoy her company :P so it was just not worth the risk to the baby or inflaming her already awful morning sickness, threw my last pack away the day after we found out.

dioltas

Man, it'd be so easy to stay off them if only I could avoid other smokers. Bastards, enjoying their nicotine. Bah, but I'm off them for good this time.

Does anyone agree with me that getting rid of ten boxes makes it alot harder to quit? You know, when you just want 1. And there's no one to bum off, you have to buy a 20 box, and then you've twenty to smoke!!!!! At least with ten, they were gone in no time and you could try again.

Also the smoking ban is a bastard, everyone off out to enjoy a sociable smoke, you're not gonna wait inside on your own like a spare pr*ck, and once your outside, and you've a few pints in ya you're not gonna say no!

That's my little rant over. Staying off the fags now for good. dirty things.

Turd Ferguson

dioltas wrote: »

like a spare pr*ck

You have a spare?

thelordofcheese

Zangetsu wrote: »

4.43pm, whacked on a half jar of coffee and dying for a smoke (off them about a month now) can't stop twitching. think I'm gonna crack, even thinking about that first little drag, the taste of sulpher off the match as you breath in all the chemical wonders of a JP Blue, the feeling of the smoke racing down your lungs injecting you with a dose of nicotine that runs through your veins like an electric wave of joy. Your head goes light for just a moment as you hold it in.... Bliss.... You exhale in one slooooow breath and a smile creeps across your face. The world is at peace again for another hour. *sigh of relief* ... I miss it...

I think I'm gonna cry


Here's a question for ya's:

Death: you don't fear nor believe in it in a permanent sence. So smoking, getting cancer and kicking the bucket isn't a problem... But there is an ethical issue inside this and my own personal dilemma.... Most quit for health, I quit because its unfair to those around me that do fear death.

It's unfair to family and friends if you end up 6 foot under "before your time".

On the other hand is it wrong to deny yourself one of the fundimental joys of being alive: the right to smoke whatever the **** you want :pac: (some call it freedom of choice)...

If you choose one you will always be split thinking about the other, a never ending cycle of self-observation analytical reporting cognition of conscious inner thoughts, desires and sensations.

All this because of a ciggerette :eek: Don't know which hurts more, the cravings or the thoughts caused by them :pac:

Nobody likes a quitter.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Carroller16 wrote: »

At 48 hours, nerve endings start to regrow and the ability to smell and taste is enhanced.

Is this biologically possible?

Supercell

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Is this biologically possible?

Dunno if its true but I definitely noticed everything tasted stronger/better after a week or so of quitting. Sense of smell was massively improved too.

thelordofcheese

Supercell wrote: »

Dunno if its true but I definitely noticed everything tasted stronger/better after a week or so of quitting. Sense of smell was massively improved too.

The fact that you're no longer constantly exposed to the strong taste and odor would account for that far more than the spontanious regrowth of specific nerve endings.

Likewise you'd notice your sense of smell and taste become more acute if you spent a week next to a fat rendering plant and then went far, far away from it.

Dardania

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Likewise you'd notice your sense of smell and taste become more acute if you spent a week next to a fat rendering plant and then went far, far away from it.

Like yore ma!


(woohoo - my first yore ma post:-) take a picture?!)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Supercell wrote: »

Dunno if its true but I definitely noticed everything tasted stronger/better after a week or so of quitting. Sense of smell was massively improved too.

I meant the nerve regneration bit. The taste/smell imrovements I can well believe.

thelordofcheese

Dardania wrote: »

Like yore ma!


(woohoo - my first yore ma post:-) take a picture?!)

Well played.

Canis Lupus

6 months off now I reckon and for the first time ever it's 6 months COMPLETELY clean. No 'one' ciggie that time I got pissed, not even a drag.

Benefits: Massively fitter (although it helps that I'm actually quite fit anyway but even a short time after quitting I noticed an improvement in the gas tank) and I'm richer and I've hopefully cut my chances of dying a horrible nasty ****ing death.

Cons: Life is surprisingly more miserable at times. I no longer enjoy going to a bar and drinking. Hate it infact because all I want to do is enjoy a ciggy.

Did I mention I'm more miserable?

The biggest thing I think about giving up ciggies is something that Allen Carr goes on about in his book (I quit this time on willpower alone although I have read the book in the past) and that's the fact that it's not the nicotine addiction that keeps you smoking although you probably think it is.

It's the crutch that cigs and the act of smoking become. Awkward social situaton? Go for a smoke. Stressed? Go for a smoke. Angry? Go for a smoke etc etc. Now that my crutch is gone I'm having to relearn ways of coping with stuff that a quick ciggy used to cure in the past. It sucks but then, so does smoking.... What ya gonna do....

Magpie!

Oh God that first drag is just sexual isn't it?

I smoke about 10 a day. I don't enjoy most of them, it's just a compulsion to light up every couple of hours.

I'd like to go back to when I only had 3 or 4 a day and got a good nicotine buzz off each one

Ash_M

Canis Lupus wrote: »

...that's the fact that it's not the nicotine addiction that keeps you smoking although you probably think it is.

It's the crutch that cigs and the act of smoking become. Awkward social situaton? Go for a smoke. Stressed? Go for a smoke. Angry? Go for a smoke etc etc. Now that my crutch is gone I'm having to relearn ways of coping with stuff that a quick ciggy used to cure in the past. It sucks but then, so does smoking.... What ya gonna do....

annoyingly true. when i was off them i found myself at a loss as to what i should do at times... its a bit like the teenager who plays with their mobile all the time, just because its something to do with their hands, and makes them look like they're doing something.

however, i reckon the nicotine rush definetly has a lot to do with why i couldn't last. i'll give up... just not now.

Canis Lupus

The nicotine is nice and that hit you get after not having a smoke for a while is mega but in fairness 3-7 days should have your brain off the nicotine addiction but you sure as hell still want to smoke after that time.

Day 3 any time I've ever attempted to give up tends to be the worst, after that it gets easier every day. You should try and keep trying to quit (took me maaaaaaaany goes). Best of luck.