Protest in Ballina to prevent traveller family moving in

brianthebard

Orange69 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

In fairness its the council that are to blame in this situation.. Its completely unacceptable to put these people into a house amongst people who worked for paid for their own house.. (Yet another example of the astounding incompetence pervading the Irish government at all levels). These people should have come out directly and said that they don't want knacker scum living in their neighborhood.. and to hell with the hypocrites on the PC bus...

I bet some of the posters on here would change their tune if they had a gang of free loading knacker scum arriving in next door..

Well I wouldn't like you living beside me anyways. Agree with janey, judging people before they move in does no one any favours.

themont85

brianthebard wrote: »

Well I wouldn't like you living beside me anyways. Agree with janey, judging people before they move in does no one any favours.

Ah but are they judging them just because they're travellers or is it because of what they apparently did a half a mile away a few years ago.

Can anybody answer me this, how do travellers plan to educate their kids?

A Primal Nut

brianthebard wrote: »

Well I wouldn't like you living beside me anyways. Agree with janey, judging people before they move in does no one any favours.

Even if they are the nicest people in the world, its still rediculous that someone should be given a free house beside people who are paying. Its insane! Apart from the principle, the effect on house prices makes this a big issue.

daftdave

themont85 wrote: »

Ah but are they judging them just because they're travellers or is it because of what they apparently did a half a mile away a few years ago.

Can anybody answer me this, how do travellers plan to educate their kids?

easy, they dont, they sponge off society and give nothing back, they are a boil on the arse of our society, and there is no point in bursting it because it will keep coming back.

Shelflife

Kickoff i mentioned 2 families regarding education because i had first hand experience of it , i mentioned multiple families regarding crime because i have first hand experience of it.

as regards not ****ting on your doorstep , this is true , we had one girl who would shoplift regularly and then got a house in the town and stopped.

have to laugh sometimes , they give generously to the poor boxes on the counter only to whip the box if they get a chance-- maybe its their way of saving.

ninty9er

janeybabe wrote: »

I saw that and I thought it was absolutely disgusting. They were listing off what their problems are, yet the only problem I could see was that these protesters have no concept of social justice. They were clearly the type of people who tar everyone with the same brush. If a foreign family moved in they'd probably have to same reaction.

These people wouldn't have any issue if the traveller family had gone out and paid €465,000 for the house....because that brings with it the pride in owning a home and maintaining it as such.

Our nextdoor neighbours are in the only council house on the road, and the family is very nice, keep the house well and all, but the resentment is that they got it free and everyone else paid a fortune out of their own pocket.

And that is what is

janeybabe wrote: »

Disgraceful.

ninty9er

nipplenuts wrote: »

Yes, I'm sure they were, but the point is that they make up a tiny minority. The school is funded by the taxes of the settled community, no? Did any of the students go on to jobs where they paid income tax?

You could make the same accusation of the long term unemployed or the disabled. Does it mean their kids shouldn't go to school?

Lockstep

Shelflife wrote: »

Kickoff i mentioned 2 families regarding education because i had first hand experience of it , i mentioned multiple families regarding crime because i have first hand experience of it.

Sound, cool.

However, you seem to be generalising about the entire community (what do they bring to the community table etc)

sock.rocker*

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I'd fight tooth and nail to keep them out.

Why the fcuk should I have to put up with dirt and filth, after spending big buck to get away from that.
I wouldn't invest in a property to be treated like that.
If I want to live in squalor ,I'll live in a halting site.

Pure common sense .'

ftw

anyone in this thread who is bein all idealistic, jus think if they moved in next to you.... bad buzz.

Tha Gopher

brianthebard wrote: »

Well if you want I could talk a bit about the traveller community in the past and how society has changed to exclude them, force them into a position of poverty and lack of opportunities...

Lol.


86% of traveller men of working age are not officially employed. As we know the government these days forces people considered unemployable (very long term unemployed, alcoholics etc) to do a few hours of community type work (mowing public grassland, litter cleaning etc). How come none of these 86% are seemingly involved?

You can PC it all you want, the simple fact is that while there are decent travellers there is a sizeable contingent (or, from my personal experience, dare I say majority) who quite simply are not the type you want as neighbours. We all know plenty of hardwokring, decent people from the likes of Finglas, Ballymun etc etc. In my life I have never met a similiar case re the travellers. That is not racist, it is a simple statement of my experience and, seemingly, most peoples.

jonsie

My dealings with traveller's goes something like this....

Never had any dealing's with them when i was growing up as there were never any in the area i lived but that all changed recently. Bearing in my mind that i never had an opinion on them as i'm of the impression if they don't do anything to me then why should I. Recently started a new job in letterkenny which is riddled with travelling families. Every single day, different families come into my place of work and try their god damn hardest to rob from us and 9 times out of 10 are successful. We can't afford to hire personal security so it is on us to spot them and although we are not allowed to approach them we can clearly see what is happening. Usually three or four will come in...a mother and some kids. The mother proceeds to distract one of our staff while the kids split up and rob stuff which we have seen 100's of times. They treat us like idiots as they know we know but that we cant approach them. Apparently in another place in letterkenny when a sales person approached them on suspicion of theft they attacked her and proceeded to walk out with a basket full of stolen items. They think they are above the law and clearly have reasons for thinking it. To make matters worse we rented a room in our house to two young lads who turned out to be tinkers of the highest degree....trashed the place and then refused to leave(finally got them evicted but are worried every day since of retaliation!!). I also remember an occasion where tinkers were fighting in the streets, the guards had to tell everyone not to walk home to get taxis as they were trying to kill each other with machete's (as you do!!).....so my opinion is they don't deserve anything other than the stigma attached as they bring it all on themselves. You rob society so don't expect society to welcome you with open arms. Our country would be alot better of without scum like them.

Ste.phen

jonsie wrote: »

My dealings with traveller's goes something like this....

If you wanted a 'I don't hate travellers... BUT....' post, you didn't need to open a 3 year old thread...

jay93

If it were my shop there would be batterings going on if i seen them robbing anything.

People should not be afraid to approach them they are still human and like if a non traveller tryed to rob from a shop they would be confronted by staff people should not be so scared of traveller's .

Get a shotgun hide it under counter if they try rob again tell them you will blow their heads off im sure they will drop what they are robbing very quickly :D LOL

P.S i have nothing against travellers most of them are actually decent people !!
EDIT:just seen this thread was 3 years old ooops

jonsie

jay93 wrote: »

If it were my shop there would be batterings going on if i seen them robbing anything.

People should not be afraid to approach them they are still human and like if a non traveller tryed to rob from a shop they would be confronted by staff people should not be so scared of traveller's .

Get a shotgun hide it under counter if they try rob again tell them you will blow their heads off im sure they will drop what they are robbing very quickly :D LOL

Haha if only!! unfortunately we are instructed not approach them as "accusing" someone of theft leaves us liable to a law suit. The best we can do is stalk them around the store and hope that eventually unnerves them enough to get the hell out. Their audacity is what strikes me the most!!

thegills

Good timing to resurrect this thread as the Council have just started doing the house up for the Travellers to move in soon (the house was burned down a while ago). The locals took the Council to court after court and lost and now have a hefty bill.

Muckie

The Mother in law has "Travellers" living one side of her and "Roma Gypsies" the other.

Oh the fun times! I'm afraid in both cases they live up to their stereotypes.

One example. Just before the Horse fair in Smithfield, the Gardai arrived
to collect a brand new Golf with Northern plates, that had been robbed.
Went well, kicking screaming the usual....

They regularly park/abandon their cars on the road, blocking her driveway.

The other neighbours aren't so bad, keeping a lower profile, lots of kids and rubbish everywhere, but hey maybe thats normal.

mikom

Muckie wrote: »

The Mother in law has "Travellers" living one side of her and "Roma Gypsies" the other.

God help her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAIsqvTh7g

dr.bollocko

Please do not bump the ancient threads folks.