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I'm walking myself into the firing line here......

  • 09-09-2008 7:28pm
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    But I really have to ask this .....

    Is the PS3 worth the money in the shops right now??
    And explain your reasons please as I am thinking about getting one and don't want to fork out if its not really worth it.


    PS. I have a 360 and a Wii already so am looking to expand my games room a bit more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭Vyse


    If you didn't have a 360 I'd definitely say yes, however the fact that you do......

    Look at the exclusives and weigh it up based on that.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Well the main reason I am looking at it is that my mates are all in Dublin pretty much and they all only have PS3 and are into the same games as me. So its really to play them online in a few games such as COD4 and TW09. It will only be used the odd time here until some more decent games comeout but I haven't played anything other than TW08 and COD4 on it so not sure what the other games are like or whats games are even on the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,721 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I thought they were gonna put a ban on topics like these. Nevermind the fact there are loads already if you did a search.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭gloobag


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    PS. I have a 360 and a Wii already so am looking to expand my games room a bit more.

    Um, if you have a 360 and Wii already, and you're looking for something else, the PS3 is pretty much the only other option out there assuming you don't want a handheld or a PC gaming rig.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    noodler wrote: »
    I thought they were gonna put a ban on topics like these. Nevermind the fact there are loads already if you did a search.

    Yes I did do a search and I am asking as in right this moment is it worth it..... if you don't want to add to the thread then don't bother with the smart replies!
    gloobag wrote: »
    Um, if you have a 360 and Wii already, and you're looking for something else, the PS3 is pretty much the only other option out there assuming you don't want a handheld or a PC gaming rig.

    Well I have a DS, not into the PSP anymore and not into the PC gaming at all!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    gloobag wrote: »
    Um, if you have a 360 and Wii already, and you're looking for something else, the PS3 is pretty much the only other option out there assuming you don't want a handheld or a PC gaming rig.
    Apart from the Atari Jaguar of course...

    Since you have a "game room", I'd take a guess and say that you have a fair bit of disposable income, so might as well just go for it. While I don't play my PS3 as much as my 360, I still play it a hell of a lot more than the Wii.

    There are some decent exclusives out there, and ALL titles are region free so you can get some bargains if you shop around for games online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    for me man,
    it was free psn gaming online unlike subscription online play for xb
    and the built in blu ray player sold it for me
    if ya have the cash to splash, go for it why not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭Vyse


    tman wrote: »
    There are some decent exclusives out there, and ALL titles are region free so you can get some bargains if you shop around for games online.

    Valkyria Chronicles is my most anticipated game of the year and it's a PS3 exclusive. Roll on November.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    tman wrote: »
    Apart from the Atari Jaguar of course...

    Since you have a "game room", I'd take a guess and say that you have a fair bit of disposable income, so might as well just go for it. While I don't play my PS3 as much as my 360, I still play it a hell of a lot more than the Wii.

    There are some decent exclusives out there, and ALL titles are region free so you can get some bargains if you shop around for games online.



    Ah its not that big of a games room just yet.

    Only have the PC, Xbox, Dreamcast, PS1, Wii, Xbox360, GameGear, NeoGeo Pocket, GBA SP, GBA, GBC, GB (Think I have a snes, nes and mabe a c64 lying around here somewhere) in there so far, I have been picking up consoles on the cheap to build up the collection. Also looking at getting a cab and maybe a pinball machine. When I have a few more bits in there I can call it a real games room then.

    I noticed the drops in price on their games lately and it looks like it about to hit a good time like the ps2 did after a while. That and the pact the lads are always online so it would be a laugh playing them online most of the time.

    Vyse wrote: »
    Valkyria Chronicles is my most anticipated game of the year and it's a PS3 exclusive. Roll on November.

    It looks decent alright, anymore like final fantasy or anything coming out soon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    No. Unless you have to have MGS4 or a Blu-Ray player, I wouldn't bother.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Vyse wrote: »
    Valkyria Chronicles is my most anticipated game of the year and it's a PS3 exclusive. Roll on November.

    It's unfortunately the only decent exclusive on the PS3 in the next few months. (looks great though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭Kashkai


    If my ps3 didn't have a blu ray player, then it would get very little use. I initially bought mine for COD4 and Uncharted (the best exclusive game on the ps3 but its a short list;)) However, there's sod all worth buying at the moment. When I had a ps2, there were usually half a dozen decent games to choose from every few months. You wouldn't get a half a dozen decent games (that would appeal to the majority of gamers so that rules out MGS and the like) a year out of the ps3 (so far anyway).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    Its worth it if you dont have others, but since you have an xbox, i wouldn't see the main point really. The psn is good since its free.
    Im a self confessed PS fanboy, but you seem to be a console fan boy.

    I personnally hope they get more exclusives for the PS3 so far its being dissappointing.
    I do remember i "short" while at the start of the PS2 era when there weren't loads of games coming out. It was better then it is now. I do think this is more to do with how long it would take to make a game now.
    I just hope the PS3 doesn't become the PSP where they just stopped bothering.

    In noodlers defense these threads appear that often that it was annoying. Still easier to give you an answer like its completely up to you, if you want to spend the cash and have it knock yourself out! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    If my ps3 didn't have a blu ray player, then it would get very little use. I initially bought mine for COD4 and Uncharted (the best exclusive game on the ps3 but its a short list;)) However, there's sod all worth buying at the moment. When I had a ps2, there were usually half a dozen decent games to choose from every few months. You wouldn't get a half a dozen decent games (that would appeal to the majority of gamers so that rules out MGS and the like) a year out of the ps3 (so far anyway).

    Well the release calendar for the PS3 is just more geared towards the end of the year really, whereas the 360 and Wii had their exclusive games for this year more spread out.

    For example, in the next 3 months on the PS3 exclusives side, we've got: LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and SOCOM: Confrontation. (Not including Fat Princess and other PSN exclusive games coming soon worth buying.) Early next year should hopefully bring Tekken 6, InFamous and Killzone 2.

    If all that sounds worth it to you, get a PS3.

    If we look at the XBox 360 exclusives for the same period: Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, Fable II (:eek:), Gears of War 2, Warhammer Battlemarch, and Vive Pinata: Trouble in Paradise (and I'll count Infinite Undiscovery as well.) That's not as strong of a list of exclusives, but when you look at the year for the 360 as a whole, there were plenty of great exclusives spread throughout the year.

    So it's more of there being a bit of an imbalance in terms of when exclusives are being released this year then there being a drought of games for the whole year.

    Sony's consoles have always been a bit slow to start. Developers bitch that they're too hard to develop for and then a couple of years later they get over it (with help from Sony or a leading developers tools etc). We're seeing loads of games being released on the horizon for both XBox 360 and PS3, with the PS3 now beginning to catch up release wise.

    That's not even including third parties, have you seen EA's line-up? It's very end-of-year heavy (Dead Space and Mirror's Edge.) Maybe that's the sign of a trend, I don't know. Also note that whilst EA's games are muti-platform, the PS3 is now their lead development console (i.e. Dead Space and Mirror's Edge are being developed on PS3 and ported to XBox 360 instead of the other way around) so if you're the type who notices that one consoles has slightly more vision blur, better draw distance and other minor hardly noticeable graphical niceties, PS3 may be your console of choice to play these games on.

    I'd say a PS3 would make a nice addition to your games room; poor PSP gets no love though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,721 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Well an a 360 elite is like 279e in Argos. So hardware wise, if you are happy with a blu ray player for 120e then I guess its quite good. There are other hardware issues I think, 360 owners will set me straight If Im wrong, but don't you need to buy a recharger for the controllers, a wireless internet add on etc. I believe they are still sold seperately.

    Gamewise 360 obviously has alot mroe games. Probably shows my lack of divirsity gaming wise that despite this I don't specifically know about how good these are (but if they have 4 times the gaming catelogue then has to be more good games).
    Does the PS3 have Diseaga 3 as an exclusive?

    Anyways, it it just me or has there many been so many Multi-Platform releases as there is nowadays? (Devloper costs etc etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    noodler wrote: »
    Does the PS3 have Diseaga 3 as an exclusive?
    Yep, it's exclusive but I didn't include it on my list because it doesn't have a European release date yet, guess I could import it though what with PS3 games being region free.
    noodler wrote: »
    Anyways, it it just me or has there many been so many Multi-Platform releases as there is nowadays? (Devloper costs etc etc)

    Do you think some of it might have to do with the fact that a lot of multi-platform games are of very high quality now and perhaps more worthy of your attention? Or they're being marketed better? There was always disparity between the PS2 and XBox multiplatform releases, I'm glad that's starting to die off now with this generation of consoles because I like being able to share the experience of a game with people regardless of what console they have (Apart from Wii games or multiplayer FPS etc, but why play FPS on a console when you can play on the vastly superior PC! :P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,721 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Yeah, what they should really do is allow people on XBL to play people on PSN or on thjeir PCs. It would triple the amount of people online for a game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    GothPunk wrote: »
    For example, in the next 3 months on the PS3 exclusives side, we've got: LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and SOCOM: Confrontation. (Not including Fat Princess and other PSN exclusive games coming soon worth buying.) Early next year should hopefully bring Tekken 6, InFamous and Killzone 2.

    I'd be more inclined to get excited about Ubisoft's 360 exclusive follow up to Rise of a Ninja really. Haven't heard that much good stuff being said about the Ultimate Ninja series...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Hi OP,
    I was in a similar situation as you. I had the Wii and the 360 and bought the PS3. However, I bought it primarily as a blu-ray player, and not really as a games machine. As a pure games machine, I personally feel it comes nowhere close to the 360 interms of games available for it, and I just find the whole online experience to be superior on the 360.

    The only game I am even considering getting for the PS3 in the next 6 months is Street Fighter IV, and thats because the PS3 dualshock is great for beat-em-ups.

    But as I said, I'm happy with it as the blu-ray drive is excellent. But if I had the choice, its the 360 for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Deciding factors for me in order of importance:

    * Built in support for installing linux
    * Easily upgrade HDD without voiding warranty
    * Free online gaming
    * Quiet (at least in comparison to the 360)
    * Runs cooler (means a longer life span)
    * Blu-ray support
    * More future proofed compared to the grunt of the 360
    * PS3 Exclusives

    The only aspect of the 360 I like is the controller. But I guess I get to use that anyway under MS's games for windows.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    tman wrote: »
    I'd be more inclined to get excited about Ubisoft's 360 exclusive follow up to Rise of a Ninja really. Haven't heard that much good stuff being said about the Ultimate Ninja series...

    You're kidding right?

    Right?

    The Ultimate Ninja Series gives you so much choice regarding playable characters and I just think it's a great beat-em up. The number of items and jutsu and the customisation system is well thought out. The graphics in Ultimate Ninja Storm are amazing, and it includes missions that Rise of the Ninja or (what I've seen of) The Broken Bond cannot compare to. Check out these trailers, how epic does that look? Giant boss battles between the 3 Legendary Sannin atop their respective Summons, it actually looks like the anime, if not better. (Eww dodgy English voiceovers, so glad these games give you the option for Japanese voices. I saw Rise of the Ninja in English and it wasn't pretty, good thing they released a patch for it.) The series has been given a complete overhaul really with this game, they've added so much stuff (like more stories and missions, perhaps to compete with The Broken Bond).

    Then again I can't find a lot of information on The Broken Bond so perhaps that game has reached epic proportions too. (Well epic for Naruto fans anyway!)

    I have the demo that was released in the PSN and me and my girlfriend play it every weekend, despite the only playable characters being Naruto and Kakashi. It's awesome. I do think that Naruto: The Broken Bond looks a lot better then Path of a Ninja though, so I think it's really just a good time to be a Naruto fan/fan of Naruto games, regardless of what platform you're playing.

    I havn't heard anything but good things about Ultimate Ninja Storm. I have only played the two Ultimate Ninja games on PSP and I loved them, perhaps the PS2 games were somewhat sh*tty?

    Edit: Sorry for getting so OT!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    GothPunk wrote: »
    Well the release calendar for the PS3 is just more geared towards the end of the year really, whereas the 360 and Wii had their exclusive games for this year more spread out.

    For example, in the next 3 months on the PS3 exclusives side, we've got: LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and SOCOM: Confrontation. (Not including Fat Princess and other PSN exclusive games coming soon worth buying.) Early next year should hopefully bring Tekken 6, InFamous and Killzone 2.

    If all that sounds worth it to you, get a PS3.

    If we look at the XBox 360 exclusives for the same period: Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, Fable II (:eek:), Gears of War 2, Warhammer Battlemarch, and Vive Pinata: Trouble in Paradise (and I'll count Infinite Undiscovery as well.) That's not as strong of a list of exclusives, but when you look at the year for the 360 as a whole, there were plenty of great exclusives spread throughout the year.

    So it's more of there being a bit of an imbalance in terms of when exclusives are being released this year then there being a drought of games for the whole year.

    Sony's consoles have always been a bit slow to start. Developers bitch that they're too hard to develop for and then a couple of years later they get over it (with help from Sony or a leading developers tools etc). We're seeing loads of games being released on the horizon for both XBox 360 and PS3, with the PS3 now beginning to catch up release wise.

    That's not even including third parties, have you seen EA's line-up? It's very end-of-year heavy (Dead Space and Mirror's Edge.) Maybe that's the sign of a trend, I don't know. Also note that whilst EA's games are muti-platform, the PS3 is now their lead development console (i.e. Dead Space and Mirror's Edge are being developed on PS3 and ported to XBox 360 instead of the other way around) so if you're the type who notices that one consoles has slightly more vision blur, better draw distance and other minor hardly noticeable graphical niceties, PS3 may be your console of choice to play these games on.

    I'd say a PS3 would make a nice addition to your games room; poor PSP gets no love though :(

    Ah the PSP got love and then because I moved down the sticks i'm not on public transport to play it anymore, now if a cheap one came up then I will snap it up no problem at all.

    I hate the fact that I can't play my mates who have a ps3 online in TW09 because I have a 360. If I could then I would be happy.
    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Hi OP,
    I was in a similar situation as you. I had the Wii and the 360 and bought the PS3. However, I bought it primarily as a blu-ray player, and not really as a games machine. As a pure games machine, I personally feel it comes nowhere close to the 360 interms of games available for it, and I just find the whole online experience to be superior on the 360.

    The only game I am even considering getting for the PS3 in the next 6 months is Street Fighter IV, and thats because the PS3 dualshock is great for beat-em-ups.

    But as I said, I'm happy with it as the blu-ray drive is excellent. But if I had the choice, its the 360 for me.

    Beat-em-ups will be what I mainly want it for because I haven't had a decent feel to most controllers for beat-em-ups so I can see the ps3 being used for that mainly down the road.
    L31mr0d wrote: »
    Deciding factors for me in order of importance:

    * Built in support for installing linux
    * Easily upgrade HDD without voiding warranty
    * Free online gaming
    * Quiet (at least in comparison to the 360)
    * Runs cooler (means a longer life span)
    * Blu-ray support
    * More future proofed compared to the grunt of the 360
    * PS3 Exclusives

    The only aspect of the 360 I like is the controller. But I guess I get to use that anyway under MS's games for windows.

    The free online is winning me over at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    GothPunk wrote: »
    You're kidding right?

    Right?
    I'll plead my ignorance here, I didn't actually know all that much about the Ultimate Ninja series apart from reading a couple of lacklustre reviews of #2
    After enjoying Rise of a Ninja immensely, I'll definitely be getting The Broken Bond as soon as it gets released, but after checking out a few vids of Ninja Storm I reckon I'll be grabbing that as well...
    And yep, the English voiceovers are painful! (BELIEVE IT!)

    Sorry about dragging this off topic again anyway... Carry on as you were


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    GothPunk wrote: »
    I have the demo that was released in the PSN and me and my girlfriend play it every weekend, despite the only playable characters being Naruto and Kakashi.

    Ditto, absolutely love this game just from the demo. I always throw it on when friends come over and we usually end up just playing the demo for over an hour. For such a basic demo (2 characters, 1 arena) I've gotten so much play time out of it. I've never watched the series but since playing this demo I've started watching it.

    I'll be definitely getting this game when it gets released. I was surprised by it because I've never really liked any of the DBZ games, but this one seems to of hit the nail on the head.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    Deciding factors for me in order of importance:

    * Built in support for installing linux
    * Easily upgrade HDD without voiding warranty
    * Free online gaming
    * Quiet (at least in comparison to the 360)
    * Runs cooler (means a longer life span)
    * Blu-ray support
    * More future proofed compared to the grunt of the 360
    * PS3 Exclusives

    The only aspect of the 360 I like is the controller. But I guess I get to use that anyway under MS's games for windows.



    Reasons why I changed from the 360 to the PS3.
    Free online gaming without having to buy the wireless adapter and pay 50 a year.
    Blue Ray support.
    Divx support from the hard drive (god knows why microsoft dont support this especially with 120gb drives in the Elite)
    Upgradeable hard drives.
    And the silence is just great without having to listen to a hoover everytime you want to watch a movie.
    Game wise I just seem to play the PS3 more than I ever did with the 360--addicted to Uncharted at the minute.
    Also love the fact that you can sign up to the store with a US /Japanese address and download demos that we dont get in Europe(stopped me buying Soul Calibur 4 after d/l the demo from the US store)

    And finally
    Little Big Planet.Cannot wait to get my hands on this game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    GothPunk wrote: »
    (Apart from Wii games or multiplayer FPS etc, but why play FPS on a console when you can play on the vastly superior PC! :P)

    because not everyone has a couple of grand for a PC
    or
    they do not want to have to upgrade their system constantly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    because not everyone has a couple of grand for a PC
    or
    they do not want to have to upgrade their system constantly

    That's not true, I built my PC for ~€500 (Not including a monitor) 2.5 years ago and it still plays most of the latest games.

    Also, someone might just prefer to play FPS on a console, it's just my opinion that's the PC experience is superior. It's not like PC gamers are going to force you over to the dark (light?) side and weld a mouse to your hand. Considering I was replying to someone who already has a PC in their gaming room your remark makes no sense to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    it's great that you know how to build a pc but most don't. Not including monitor is a big consideration to most, if not have a hdtv. You don't know his pc spec


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    it's great that you know how to build a pc but most don't. Not including monitor is a big consideration to most, if not have a hdtv. You don't know his pc spec

    I'm still not sure what you're point is. I own a PS3. I play multiplayer online on my PS3. However, I also have a PC and prefer to play (multiplatform) FPS multiplayer on my PC, that was all I said. Why so serious?

    For example Team Fortress 2 is a multiplatform game that I think is superior on PC. On the XBox 360 you have to pay for the updates, on the PS3, you won't be getting the updates at all. (In case you don't know the updates add new maps, gameplay modes and new weapons and are available on the PC for free and are updated more regularly.) It's just better value, and when you take into account all the wonderful custom maps and mods, and the community in general, the Xbox360 or PS3 version just leaves me cold. I prefer to play it on PC. Whether a PC costs more or needs to be updated more or less frequently than another platform means nothing to me, because I prefer the PC for certain games, of which TF2 is my current favourite.

    The things you mentioned about the PC, whether they are true or not is not important, because you seem to be saying you prefer to play FPS on a console, and why not, it's fun. Does my saying I prefer something on PC somehow belittle your or anyone elses opinion? Maybe you could actually tell us what you prefer about consoles, specifically the PS3, which would actually add to this thread.

    You just reminded me about another reason why I love the PS3 - USB keyboard support, many USB keyboards work with it. You can actually play Unreal Tournament III on PS3 with a keyboard and mouse, I think that would be pretty cool to try out.

    I think it's funny that you're being so defensive about consoles in a thread that could have so easily turned into a PS3 v 360 bore :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    GothPunk wrote: »
    That's not true, I built my PC for ~€500 (Not including a monitor) 2.5 years ago and it still plays most of the latest games.

    pray do tell of this machine that you built for ~€500 at the beginning of 2006 that can still run the "latest games". For €500 back in 2006 you could of maybe got a single core 1.8Ghz AMD Athlon CPU, 512MB's of PC-3200 RAM and maybe a high 5-series or low end 6-series nvidia graphics card.

    Please do detail the spec of your current PC. €500 for a gaming PC is doable now, but don't cad yourself and the rest of us by lying and saying your 2.5 yo shoestring cost PC still runs the latest games, unless by latest games you mean "Purple Palace"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    Lemme see, I've got 1GB Ram (2x512MB sticks, €80), AMD64 3200+ 2Ghz (€160) (released ~May 2005 so had dropped in price considerably a year later), an Asus A8N-E motherboard (no dual PCI-E, €130, which was available cheaper at the time but I couldn't find it in stock anywhere cheaper than that). Most expensive piece was my processor and then my video card, an NVidia 7900GT (3rd party, €185). HDD was one my dad had lying around and has since been replaced. (I was using my old tower so I didn't have to buy a PSU or fans. I don't have a sound card; I'll definately be adding one to my next system though).

    Where do you buy your stuff? I got a lot of this stuff from Germany (ankermann-pc.com). I left out the fact that I recently bought a new 320GB hard drive which cost €60, again online. What's with the hostility anyway? If you shop around, wait for certain parts to drop in price or buy when everyone else has moved on to the slightly better newest parts (i.e. in this case, Dual SLI was the new must have), you can get very good bargains. It also helps that if you buy from mainland Europe you can save money, (even more relevant now). I suggest you look at that German website and select most of the parts in Dell's latest XPS and you'll come up with something at about one third the price. You wouldn't have gotten as good a deal as that mid-2006, but it was not as far off as you seem to be implying, especially if you choose specific parts or manufacturers. (Everything in my current PC was purchased late May-early June 2006 btw). I'm sure you agree that whilst my PC is alright for mid-2006, it was hardly top of the line. (Edit: I just read the post you have linked in your signature and realise that you do buy german, so was it that you thought I was claiming I built an awesome PC like yours for ~€500? I think I get where you're coming from now.)

    There's no mystery about buying budget PCs, no lies, you've just got to know where to look and be patient. You bring up a good point though, it's even easier to buy a budget PC these days. You don't need to spend even a quarter of the time I spent shopping around for parts for my current PC as you do for a budget PC now, so for someone to say stuff about a good PC costing €1000 these days is ridiculous. Theres an excellent PC on ankermann for €599 including a 22" monitor. Postage is cheap too. Buy german.

    Regarding the latest games comment, I guess I'm cheating a bit because any new games now I will have to play on lower settings. A good graphics card and processor let you play games for a good few years. I'm not a graphics whore so I don't mind playing something at medium settings with low anti-aliasing or low shadows/lighting. This is one of the reasons I bought a PS3 (which is the first console I've owned since the NES!).

    That being said, this PC runs The Orange Box, Mass Effect and Bioshock (Bioshock is a latest game if you're a PS3 owner... :))fine at highest or close to highest settings. Besides all I need it to do is play TF2, which it does perfectly. A bit of lag on some games every now and then but I don't mind. I doubt Far Cry 2 etc will play well, but I was able to play the Crysis demo fine at low settings. That's why I'm planning my next system now! (You don't have recommendations by any chance do you? edit: Just noticed your signature... wow. Now that's a gaming PC!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    bah... i'm not going to argue with you as it will require trying to find hardware prices from early 2006. I have receipts showing what computer parts cost back in early 2006 and I can tell you would not get a 7900GT for €185. I shopped around and managed to get a second hand 6800 Ultra from Japan for €200 in January 2006 and at the time it was an absolute steal.

    I also do shop from Germany, but I find hardwareversand.de a lot better than ankermann-pc.com.

    Anyway.... getting back on topic...

    Don't underestimate the PS3 also as a media center. Have a read up on Sony's upcoming PlayTV for the PS3.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Well I went out last night and picked one up, got the 80Gig version. Haven't had too much time on it yet but hopefully that will change after work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    bah... i'm not going to argue with you as it will require trying to find hardware prices from early 2006. I have receipts showing what computer parts cost back in early 2006 and I can tell you would not get a 7900GT for €185. I shopped around and managed to get a second hand 6800 Ultra from Japan for €200 in January 2006 and at the time it was an absolute steal.

    Ah, I didn't buy it new, I bought it off my Dad. He messed up and didn't realise you need two of the exact same cards to run them in SLI so he bought 2 new cards and I bought the 7900 off him. It even came with Quake 4 :D Considering that card was top of the range two years ago I think I did pretty well for myself, although I'm regretting being such a cheapskate on some of the other parts now a bit.

    Anyways I'm sure you'll agree that nowadays you can get a decent gaming rig online for well under €1000. A rig that most certainly will not need to be upgraded 'constantly'.
    L31mr0d wrote: »
    I also do shop from Germany, but I find hardwareversand.de a lot better than ankermann-pc.com.
    I'm glad you metioned this website, I haven't done a lot of research on the next rig I'm going to buy so thanks for the heads up.
    L31mr0d wrote: »
    Don't underestimate the PS3 also as a media center. Have a read up on Sony's upcoming PlayTV for the PS3.
    Indeed. Especially now that those rumours that PlayTV had DRM issues were found to be untrue. CVG revealed in their review that they could copy files onto the PSP memory stick directly or to a removable hard-drive for play on a PC. Now, I know that with a TV out card and some good software you can record TV on your PC anyway, but I still think that this is one of the real selling points of PlayTV and improves the PS3's standing as a media centre.

    PlayTV doesn't have Series Link or DVBT-2 support (yet), but that's a software issue, I'm sure Sony will fix that in a firmware update. I only hope RTE et al will get a move on with Irish freeview, otherwise it's only people in the Louth/Dublin/Wicklow area (who can recieve the test broadcasts) or those able to recieve from Wales or the North who'll actually be able to benefit from such a nice piece of kit.

    Hopefully they'll make more codecs available and maybe fix up the XMB file system and then it would be pretty decent I think.
    jonny24ie wrote: »
    Well I went out last night and picked one up, got the 80Gig version. Haven't had too much time on it yet but hopefully that will change after work.
    What games did you get?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    GothPunk wrote: »
    What games did you get?

    Well I had a bit of an issue with the Xtravision Bundle but got that sorted today, they only gave me a choice of 5 games to get free with it although they were to give me unlimited choice on game to the value of 69.99 for free. I eventually got them to give me Call Of Duty 4 and I picked up Motostorm for €10 aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    Glad you got your first choice. You should definately have a look at getting Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction. I only recently bought a PS3 and I love these games, they're a lot of fun and going for cheap now too.

    I wonder if my local Xtravision has Motorstorm (I'm guessing used) for €10. That's a bargain right there. I've been looking to get that.

    There are a few PSN games that would probably be worth your time. I'd recommend PixelJunk Monsters and Super Stardust HD. WipeOut HD is coming soon too :D

    You should also have an aul Google about setting up a Japanese and American PSN account, that way you can download a lot of demo's not released in our region. If you don't mind a bit of hassle to save a few quid, use Entropay.com to buy content on foreign PSN stores to take advantage of their weaker currencies.

    (You're probably aware of a lot of this stuff already, but I figured what the hell, it can't hurt.)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    GothPunk wrote: »
    Glad you got your first choice. You should definately have a look at getting Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction. I only recently bought a PS3 and I love these games, they're a lot of fun and going for cheap now too.

    I wonder if my local Xtravision has Motorstorm (I'm guessing used) for €10. That's a bargain right there. I've been looking to get that.

    There are a few PSN games that would probably be worth your time. I'd recommend PixelJunk Monsters and Super Stardust HD. WipeOut HD is coming soon too :D

    You should also have an aul Google about setting up a Japanese and American PSN account, that way you can download a lot of demo's not released in our region. If you don't mind a bit of hassle to save a few quid, use Entropay.com to buy content on foreign PSN stores to take advantage of their weaker currencies.

    (You're probably aware of a lot of this stuff already, but I figured what the hell, it can't hurt.)

    Motostorm was 20 used but I got 10 off when bought with the console bundle. I did see that and resistance brand new in game for 10 the other day in dawson street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    Motostorm was 20 used but I got 10 off when bought with the console bundle. I did see that and resistance brand new in game for 10 the other day in dawson street.

    Brilliant, I'll make sure to pass by on my way home from work so!


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