Would you go to War?

Overflow · 03-09-2008 6:42pm #1

Hypothetically speaking if there was another world war, that had not already ended by nuclear strikes. Would you sign up if your country asked you to? Or join the forces of another country, such as some of our grandfathers did in WW2. My grandfather joined the Royal Irish Regiment in the British Army during WW2 and fought in France, thank god he survived or i would not be here today.

herbieflowers · 03-09-2008 6:43pm

No.

R0ot · 03-09-2008 6:45pm

I'd sign up if Ireland actually did go to war, would I be of use is another question altogether. :pac:

03-09-2008 6:46pm

No.

anti-venom · 03-09-2008 6:46pm

No way.

darkman2 · 03-09-2008 6:48pm

If the British invaded Ireland most would probrably say yes and fight - if it was any other country no one would care:P

Mossy Monk · 03-09-2008 6:50pm

Nope.

Overflow · 03-09-2008 6:51pm

darkman2 wrote: »

If the British invaded Ireland most would probrably say yes and fight - if it was any other country no one would care:P

Open Invitation.... "Invade Ireland" ....Britain need not apply

Holsten · 03-09-2008 6:53pm

Not a chance in hell.

The Walsho · 03-09-2008 6:55pm

No chance.

dotsman · 03-09-2008 6:56pm

If the extent of the war had an affect on me (i.e. it was a choice between fighting and living in an underground shelter for a few years), if it was a fight I believed in, and not some nationalistic bull**** the government/media/propaganda forced down my throat, and if I felt that, as a soldier, my contribution (and life) was appreciated and that I wasn't merely cannon fodder.

Then, I would consider fighting.

Otherwise, you can kiss my hippy ass.

dresden8 · 03-09-2008 6:59pm

Random mutilation, amputation and death.

Sign me up!!!!

phasers · 03-09-2008 7:00pm

No way in hell. The Irish army would have about 3 members, we're all "conscientious objectors"

Overflow · 03-09-2008 7:00pm

dotsman wrote: »

If the extent of the war had an affect on me (i.e. it was a choice between fighting and living in an underground shelter for a few years), if it was a fight I believed in, and not some nationalistic bull**** the government/media/propaganda forced down my throat, and if I felt that, as a soldier, my contribution (and life) was appreciated and that I wasn't merely cannon fodder.

Then, I would consider fighting.

Otherwise, you can kiss my hippy ass.

I would have to agree with you there, although i wouldn't consider it, i would join up.

iTroll · 03-09-2008 7:07pm

I'd use my BF2 gleened skilz and be Sniper!

Turd Ferguson · 03-09-2008 7:08pm

War? What is it good for?

dotsman · 03-09-2008 7:11pm

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

War? What is it good for?

Population control

Overflow · 03-09-2008 7:11pm

iTroll wrote: »

I'd use my BF2 gleened skilz and be Sniper!

Ive got a couple hundred hours in the Blackhawk in BF2, does that count ?

iTroll · 03-09-2008 7:13pm

Overflow wrote: »

Ive got a couple hundred hours in the Blackhawk in BF2, does that count ?

What is your K/D ratio?

shenanigans1982 · 03-09-2008 7:16pm

Overflow wrote: »

Ive got a couple hundred hours in the Blackhawk in BF2, does that count ?

And I've stopped a plot to destory the world by Russian Ultranationalists in COD 4 but lets be honest you're not getting off the ground and I am probaly going to shoot myself in the foot if a war comes our way.

dsmythy · 03-09-2008 7:19pm

Well it depends. If Ireland went to war then it would depend on why we're doing it, more likely than not i wouldn't.

If Ireland was invaded for no good reason then i probably would.

In the end it may not be up to you anyway. In the event of total world war it would be conscription, the other option being death.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-09-2008 7:21pm

I for one woule like to welcome our new Anhglican.... ah, you get the idea!

Generally speaking, no, I wouldn't. Nationality is a very thin concpet at the best of times and not worth getting killed over. If my personal freedom was threatened, then yes.

peasant · 03-09-2008 7:23pm

I had to make that choice (at least on a theoratical level) in the late eighties (cold war, remember) when faced with the question do I do my national service in the army or in a hospital.

For all sorts of reasons I chose the army ...one of them was yes, I'd be prepared to defend my country and what it stands for.

Having been in the army, having had the training and having my head filled with all the simplistic patriotic (idiotic) bullcrap the army feeds you, my answer to the question is ...absolutely, definetly not.

The only force I could see myself joining would be a resistance kind of operation.

dsmythy · 03-09-2008 7:23pm

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I for one woule like to welcome our new Anhglican.... ah, you get the idea!

Generally speaking, no, I wouldn't. Nationality is a very thin concpet at the best of times and not worth getting killed over. If my personal freedom was threatened, then yes.

Ah yeah it's all about you isn't it?!

Soby · 03-09-2008 7:28pm

not a chance...if we went to war with the US on our side...i can just picture the war room...(simpsons style)...."Ireland".....hmmm "Front line infantry"

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-09-2008 7:33pm

dsmythy wrote: »

Ah yeah it's all about you isn't it?!

... as opposed to....?

dsmythy · 03-09-2008 7:37pm

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

... as opposed to....?

I was joking with you although maybe the greater good? I know, i'm not too keen on that either.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-09-2008 7:40pm

dsmythy wrote: »

I was joking with you although maybe the greater good? I know, i'm not too keen on that either.

I know, I know!

But it really comes down to how you define "the greater good"! I have a funny feeling it's going to vary. I wouldn't fight for a 'nationality' or a 'flag' because that's not as important to me as individuality.

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
- John Lennon

(And before the hippie-bashers come on, it's more of a spiritualist standpoint than a hippie one)

R0ot · 03-09-2008 7:44pm

iTroll wrote: »

What is your K/D ratio?

If you basing your bf2 skill on your K/D ratio please delete your account now, in bf2.

BrokenArrows · 03-09-2008 7:49pm

probably if war actually broke out because we were actually being threatended like in the world wars, not some stupid war like iraq.

but it goes without saying i would have to be made general straight away so i could order all the above people who said "yes" to their deaths.

general is a great position.
if you lose a battle and every dies you can just say in a very sincere voice "meh...it war people are going to die"

however if you win you can say "you know that was my idea"

/rant over.

Piste · 03-09-2008 7:50pm

No way.

Though I might do some sorta assasination type thing like Michael Collins' homedawgs whereby I assasinate key members of the enemy.

Run_to_da_hills · 03-09-2008 7:50pm

I would have no probs going to war as a despatch rider. I have this baby over 20 years.

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/101066/56595.jpg

dsmythy · 03-09-2008 7:57pm

It's a wonder how war exists the way everyone says they'd never go to war. Maybe first thing enters their minds when they hear that is being sent off to fight somewhere rather than to defend Ireland against unwarranted aggression.

Would it really just be a case of uprooting themselves and just leaving Ireland to whoever wants it in their hypothetical empire?

Overflow · 03-09-2008 7:58pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would have no probs going to war as a despatch rider. I have this baby over 20 years. https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/101066/56595.jpg

Sweet bike, does she run ?

Overheal · 03-09-2008 8:04pm

not surprising the irish would just sit back, let other nations save their asses, and then criticise

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-09-2008 8:06pm

Overheal wrote: »

not surprising the irish would just sit back, let other nations save their asses, and then criticise

You're assuming we'd want it saved...? If you want to take over, you simply bring money and go the commercial route

Carsinian Thau · 03-09-2008 8:08pm

I'm an absolute coward. So no.

Run_to_da_hills · 03-09-2008 8:12pm

Overflow wrote: »

Sweet bike, does she run ?

Yes except for the lights !! Taken in 1999.

Tha Gopher · 03-09-2008 8:13pm

When there were so few Irish to sell unhealthy products that it looked like wage levels and hence the cost of these unhealthy products would rise, the Chinese came here to continue to serve us booze in nightclubs, KFC chicken, mackers food and, the greasiest dish known to man, late night Abra meals in order to make us too unfit to fight when WWIII kicks off (or take part in future Olympics)

Id join. The enemy bullet would never kill me, seeing as I would have died of heart failure at the training camp.

ejmaztec · 03-09-2008 8:18pm

Overheal wrote: »

not surprising the irish would just sit back, let other nations save their asses, and then criticise

They'd join both sides - and then the fun would begin.
:P

Riddle101 · 03-09-2008 8:35pm

I don't think i'd be able to go to war, i might be busy at the time building a resistance group incase we get invaded, you can never be too sure and after what happened to the french in WWII i don't want to take any chances

Overheal · 03-09-2008 8:58pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

They'd join both sides - and then the fun would begin.
:P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyx0K4WrElo

Lirange · 03-09-2008 9:00pm

We should have a Boards war.

Sim:

The over fancied Military board was overrun by the Beer Guts and Receding Hairlines board. The board followed up that victory by forming an unstoppalbe alliance with the Zombie board.

The After Hours board is much like Russia during the Napoleonic and World Wars: A large army with incompetent tactics that can only use it's capacity to absorb massive casualty rates to stall the enemy and hope to win through attrition.

The Thunderdome board manged to rape and pillage the Weather board but infighting led to mutinies.

Overheal · 03-09-2008 9:06pm

We already had a smiley jihad and a lolcat crusade. What more do you want?

ejmaztec · 03-09-2008 9:10pm

Overheal wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyx0K4WrElo

Must remember to watch that movie one day. I didn't realise it's true comic potential.

pablomakaveli · 03-09-2008 9:24pm

Give me some jam, paper clips, sand paper, a stamp addressed envelope and a sidekick monkey with an attitude problem and ill go win your dam war.

Wibbs · 03-09-2008 9:40pm

If someone threatened here or especially if they invaded here? Yes I would. While I would certainly agree with Johnson when he commented, "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel", hiding behind your mothers skirts in the face of oppression of values contrary to the common good of those you claim as your fellows, or worse, those you don't naturally claim as your fellows is a far worse thing. Though as the past has often shown resistance movements swell their members after the fact when history has proven them right.

Plus if yore ma was "doing her duty" when hiding me between her sheets in times of escape all the better.....

Super Sidious · 03-09-2008 9:46pm

Who'd be General???

General Paul O'Connell In Charge of Entire Irish Army!

JC 2K3 · 03-09-2008 11:47pm

dsmythy wrote: »

It's a wonder how war exists the way everyone says they'd never go to war.

Public opinion is very easily swayed. Look at how quickly attitudes to drink driving and smoking were changed. Whoever controls the media controls the masses.

Kernel · 04-09-2008 2:55am

Wibbs wrote: »

If someone threatened here or especially if they invaded here? Yes I would. While I would certainly agree with Johnson when he commented, "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel", hiding behind your mothers skirts in the face of oppression of values contrary to the common good of those you claim as your fellows, or worse, those you don't naturally claim as your fellows is a far worse thing. Though as the past has often shown resistance movements swell their members after the fact when history has proven them right.

Good post. When I was younger I would have said yes, certainly. As I got older I realised that war was an abberation. A most disgusting act carried out by humans, and that wars are futile. OP, do you think your Grandfather or anyone else who fought in WWI were right to do so? Sorry, but they were pawns in a clash of colonial superpowers. The elites sent millions into industrialised killing fields and sacrificed them readily. At the conclusion of the war what was achieved?

I recommend reading War of the World by Niall Ferguson, or one of Anthony Beevors books (Berlin or Stalingrad in particular) to get a real feel for war and the human suffering that is dished out to the innocent bystanders most frequently. Even more disgusting is a war for oil which the US and Britain are now engaged in.

Xavi6 · 04-09-2008 3:23am

Not a chance of me going to war. I'd just move somehwere else.

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