All Ireland Final 2008 KERRY Vs TYRONE

Mr. Incognito

So after a summer where Dublin and Cork collapse, again. Wexford are the surprise package and Derry fizz out after a promising League here we are.

In the Green and gold corner......... 7th Final in 9 years. Going for their third in a row in a fifth consecutive final, boosted by the returns of Darragh O Shea and dare I say it Paul Galvin..........The Kingdom

In the red and white Corner, the team that stopped them in 2005 with a magnificant goal from the journeyman, Peter the great, the patchwork quilt with a 36 man panel and the minors playing in the curtain raiser........ the red hand hope. Tyrone.

Place your bets...................

I reckon kerry will win it handy actually.

Orizio

Tyrone by 2.

john77

very hard to call, but i'd lean very slightly towards Kerry at the mo, though they're going to have to sort out the second half slumps cos Tyrone won't let them away with it.

Tristram

Tyrone

Daysha

Kerry by 3

MisterAnarchy

I think Tyrone will win.
Kerry have been put to the pin of the collar to beat nearly all their opponents this year.
I think Tyrone will be too strong for them.

the bolt

tyrone i think(hope)

longfordjames

kerry if they use donaghy should prevail but they wont.i said it before and I'LL SAY it again if Pat O'Shea wants to make this 3in a row a reeality why doesnt he play Mike Frank Russell.?

Daysha

D.L.R. wrote: »

Its just a pity that these days, losers can still become All Ireland "Champions". Money making scam.

Whats the alternative? Go back to the old days where one defeat after months of training is the end of an entire Championship for a whole year for a county?

Nalced_irl

Really really hard to call tbh. I still dont think Kerry are looking hugely strong this year (despite the fact theyre in the final ) but in typical Kerry style while playing bad at times, they are doing enough when they need to so im sure they will be alot stronger against Tyrone. Tyrone on the other hand have sprung to life and are playing solid football. I would be leaning very slightly towards Tyrone going on current form, by 1 or 2 points but i have been wrong on nearly every prediction this year so looks like it`ll be 3 in a row

Ace2007

deise59 wrote: »

Whats the alternative? Go back to the old days where one defeat after months of training is the end of an entire Championship for a whole year for a county?

Dublin only lost once this year....

DDC1990

Kerry hopefully. We need to put 2003 and 2005 to rest and get rid of this perception that we can't beat northern teams... (like what are Monaghan, Armagh, Derry? Leinster Teams?)

Nalced_irl

DDC1990 wrote: »

Kerry hopefully. We need to put 2003 and 2005 to rest and get rid of this perception that we can't beat northern teams... (like what are Monaghan, Armagh, Derry? Lienster Teams?)

We proved that this year eh?

aarymark

tyrone in a canter

Kojak

Kerry seem to be getting their act together at the right time. On a number of occasions today, when Cork got close to them - Kerry upped a gear to pull away. Also, they will have learned a lot more about themselves today than Tyrone did against Wexford.

With Dara O'Sé and (possibly) Paul Galvin back in the starting 15 the next day, they should prevail by 3 or 4 points. Also, I'd guess that they would want to lay the ghosts of the 2005 final to rest.

Mossy Monk

Kerry by 5

smashey

I'm going for Tyrone or Mrs. smashey will kill me.

Yavvy

Tyrone.. they seem to have regained their edge and are peaking at just the right time, close one though

K-9

This one is going to be fascinating. Kerry will get a goal or two as the long ball will work now and again, then you have a Tyrone attacking style suited to Kerrys main weakness, running at them with pace and numbers in support!

I did think earlier in the year Tyrone where due one big performance, the quality of their foot passing maybe even surpasses Kerry, they showed glimpses of that against Westmeath and Mayo.

Now they've produced 2 brilliant attacking performances in Croker and when in full flow, are impossible to stop.They've rose to the occasion twice in Croker.

Jaysus it's hard to call, a draw and we'll get a repeat!

Will need McEnaeney refereeing!:D

homerjay2005

paul galvin will play a part in the final. im not sure yet what way it will be, but he will.

im dreaming of thomas and paul with their hands on sam in 3 weeks time!

K-9

homerjay2005 wrote: »

paul galvin will play a part in the final. im not sure yet what way it will be, but he will.

im dreaming of thomas and paul with their hands on sam in 3 weeks time!

As long as it's not on the refs book! :pac::D

CyberDave

First of all, I don't think Tyrone will allow Kerry build up leads like they have done in some of their matches this year and if Kerry fall asleep like they have done against Cork, three times this year, without the that big lead they won't win it. If Tyrone can reproduce the form they showed against Dublin, I think they can do it.

quad_red

D.L.R. wrote: »

Its just a pity that these days, losers can still become All Ireland "Champions". Money making scam.

In a thread about who is going to win the final, the same old whining band wagon rumbles in.

In terms of who will win the final (the actual topic of the thread), Tyrone look fearsome and very very determined.

Heart says Kerry, head says Tyrone. If they can keep their heads screwed on, Dara and Galvin could play a huge part.

homerjay2005

D.L.R. wrote: »

Its just a pity that these days, losers can still become All Ireland "Champions". Money making scam.

oh dear.

blackbelt

I think preparation may be a good indicator although it seems very balanced.

Kerry have played Cork 3 times,Monaghan and Galway.Tyrone have played Down twice,Westmeath,Mayo,Dublin and Wexford.

Kerry have played 5 competitive games against 3 teams.One of those teams beat them and drew with them and are very well known as they playe them 2-3 times a year nearly every year.They struggled to put that same team away after building up big leads in each game.Meanwhile they also beat Monaghan and Galway in impressive fashion.However,if Galway had a better defense,Galway could have taken them.

Meanwhile,Tyrone have played 6 games of which 5 of them were competitive.They get over that early shock of losing to Down and beat Westmeath and Mayo in competitive games.They beat a Dublin side that failed to show up and then very impressively end Wexfords run.Tyrone have not showed this weakness that Kerry have of building up big leads and then letting the opposition come back into it.Their shooting (which is better than Corks) would have punished Kerry and beaten them based on yesterdays performance.

I think Tyrone to win by 4points.

homerjay2005

it can be arugued though that kerry have beaten better teams than tyrone.

galway > mayo
monaghan> westmeath

cork > wexford

dublin were terrible against tyrone. i think cork would have beaten wexford by 8 or 9 yesterday..

cruiserweight

homerjay2005 wrote: »

dublin were terrible against tyrone. i think cork would have beaten wexford by 8 or 9 yesterday..

One what basis are you making that assumption?

homerjay2005

cruiserweight wrote: »

One what basis are you making that assumption?

on the basis of what i saw in croke park yesterday that kerry, cork and tyrone are all far better teams than wexford. tyrone were streets ahead of them and i think cork may have rattled in a few goals also.

cruiserweight

homerjay2005 wrote: »

on the basis of what i saw in croke park yesterday that kerry, cork and tyrone are all far better teams than wexford. tyrone were streets ahead of them and i think cork may have rattled in a few goals also.

We must have been watching different games then. Wexford didn't start well, but were competitive and matched Tyrone except for the first 20 minutes.

ronanos

Just a quote from the Irish Examiner
..."And Kerry, Mickey? “Maybe they haven’t got enough credit for the last two years,” smiled Harte."....

I can't comment. Speechless.

Well Brollys opinion that the big men of Tyrone just dont give away goals at half time was quenched in the second half by Wexford. And only for pulling down players who were just after beating the fullback line and ready to run for goals Tyrone would be out of the championship today. The ref needs to tighten up on that stuff. However I cant see Tommy Walsh or Donaghy being pulled down so easy. The big men may meet their match!

Cork took quite a few short kickouts yesterday and Kerry werent to be seen marking up for them. Tyrone will be at that so the forwards better man mark for the kickouts. I thought taking Quirke off yesterday caused the Cork comeback but I know he probably wasnt fit enough to last the whole match. However he did earn a chance to get a run on the 21st. Million dollar question is do you start with him or end with him?

I can see Dara and Scanlon cleaning up for the Kerry kickouts. But hopefully they will be varied this time. I see short kickouts from Tyrone the whole day long.

Its there for the taking. I do think KErry have come through a very tough path this year and just arent being respected by most of the analysists. Joe Brolly etc. Arrgh... I can see some serious payback coming to Tyrone.

Perhaps it will be like the Armagh match 2 years ago. Keep with them in the first half give nothing away and then blitzkrieg them from the beginning of the second half.

homerjay2005

cruiserweight wrote: »

We must have been watching different games then. Wexford didn't start well, but were competitive and matched Tyrone except for the first 20 minutes.

were u in croker yesterday?
6 points flattered wexford. tyrone are miles better than them and when needed to,they upped the anti and ooozed class. wexford battled, but they were beaten 23 scores to 15 and thats a fair hammering. anybody that thinks there was any chance of wexford winning yesterday, seriously needs to take a reality check. as i said, kerry and cork would also have done damage to wexford yesterday.

cruiserweight

homerjay2005 wrote: »

were u in croker yesterday?
6 points flattered wexford. tyrone are miles better than them and when needed to,they upped the anti and ooozed class. wexford battled, but they were beaten 23 scores to 15 and thats a fair hammering. anybody that thinks there was any chance of wexford winning yesterday, seriously needs to take a reality check. as i said, kerry and cork would also have done damage to wexford yesterday.

Yes I was. One recurring theme this year is that this Wexford team has gotten very little credit for what they have achieved. Throw away comments that other teams would hammer them adds very little to the discussion of who will win the all ireland this year.

homerjay2005

cruiserweight wrote: »

Yes I was. One recurring theme this year is that this Wexford team has gotten very little credit for what they have achieved. Throw away comments that other teams would hammer them adds very little to the discussion of who will win the all ireland this year.

well your the one that made an issue of it,not me! i made a statment of what i think would have happened and you quoted it. its my opinion and i dont think that its far wrong to be fair.

wexford, yes, they did well, but were punching well above their weight and were found out yesterday. some of their passing and handling was terrible at times.

kerry, cork and tyrone are far far superior to wexford and thats that. it showed yesterday as far as tyrone are concerned anyway.

my initial discussion was the fact that kerry have beaten better teams than tyrone and that had cork been playing wexford yesterday, i firmly believe that they would easily be in the final today.

cruiserweight

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well your the one that made an issue of it,not me! i made a statment of what i think would have happened and you quoted it. its my opinion and i dont think that its far wrong to be fair.

We will have to agree to disagree on that. I made an issue out of it because I think you are wrong. A lot of people are playing down Wexfords achievements and I also think that is wrong

homerjay2005 wrote: »

wexford, yes, they did well, but were punching well above their weight and were found out yesterday

They lost to a better team yesterday. But punching above their weight again we will have to agree to disagree

homerjay2005 wrote: »

kerry, cork and tyrone are far far superior to wexford and thats that. it showed yesterday as far as tyrone are concerned anyway.

Thats that makes it sound like fact. It is your opinion you are entitled to it but I think you are wrong.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

my initial discussion was the fact that kerry have beaten better teams than tyrone and that had cork been playing wexford yesterday, i firmly believe that they would easily be in the final today.

I think that Wexford and Cork would be a close game, and not tha slaughter that you predicted.

Now let us leave it at that and get back on topic.

villains77

kerry all the way 3 in a row and then hopefully the dubs next year heres hoping .

UnitedIrishman

Kerry by at least 3.

If Tyrone give as much space in the backline as they did against Wexford, they'll get annihilated. 1-14 scored by Wexford could be much more by the likes of O'Sullivan and Cooper.

premierstone

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Kerry by at least 3.

If Tyrone give as much space in the backline as they did against Wexford, they'll get annihilated. 1-14 scored by Wexford could be much more by the likes of O'Sullivan and Cooper.

1-11 of that came when the game was already over as a contest, despite what cruiserwight thinks, and as soon as wexford got a little too close for comfort Tyrone just upped a gear and destroyed them all over again, having said all that though i do think that Kerry will win the final as they simply have too many options up front.

premierstone

longfordjames wrote: »

kerry if they use donaghy should prevail but they wont.i said it before and I'LL SAY it again if Pat O'Shea wants to make this 3in a row a reeality why doesnt he play Mike Frank Russell.?

Instead of whio exactly, they have the best foward unit in the country by a mile and id say MFR isnt even anywhere near o'connors thoughts at this stage

shiibata

Head says tough one to call, could go to another day out... heart says hope Tyrone stuff them, just to see spillanes face.. was talking to sunday game pundit on holiday 2 years ago and spillane is so anti-ulster(bad enough on camera, but 10 times worse when cameras not rolling)

Mr. Incognito

okay- having a good long look at this one.

Historical perspective. Last meetings in 2003 & 2005 cannot really be judged as the panels are radically different.

Donaghy joined the panel in 2006, and now Tommy Walsh has added another dimension to the attack. In 2003 Kerry were over- reliant on Gooch and Tyrone simply beat him up. They also had the services of seamus Moynihan who brought a rock to the defense.

Tyrone too, have had two injury plagued years but impressive young players have moved up to fill the gap. Brian Dooher and kavanagh are their on field leaders and have replaced the loss of Peter Canavan. They have Harte who looks like he was the manager that had cracked the code to unlock Kerry.

The tactics are going to be new. Kerry are going to pump high ball into Donaghy and Walsh and will this negate the blanket defensive tactics.
I don't think the Tyrone defence is as organised or as strong as to be able to stiffle two players that are 6'5. Walsh was shrugging off three defenders yesterday with ease on occasion.

The key for Tyrone will be to stop Kerry going forward from the half back line and the wings and to monopolise midfield. Darragh O Shea and Paul Galvin back scrapping for breaks will make this a harder task.

I think that this game is just a bridge too far for Tyrone this year. They have 5 players I believe from the U21 panel which gives them great speed but Kerry have been through the fire so often this year- against monaghan, Galway and twice against Cork they have lost substantial leads and then pulled away again when it mattered.

tyrone are going to hassle the back line relentlessly, how many of kerry's attacks start with Marc O shea or Tomas breaking free down the wings. but this Tyrone team is a different tam, they no longer grind out wins with low scoring 1 point wins, they were in free flowing scoring form and have forwards to kick 23 points in an all ireland semi final is no mean feat.

The turning point comparison I can see is Kerry and Armagh in 2006 in the quarter final. Kerry went down to 14 men and the blanket defense didn't work when kerry went route one to Dongaghy, since then Kerry have not lost to a Northern team in meetings with Monaghan, Derry, Down.

The historical signifigance is huge, Kerry putting down the team that has effectively stopped them going for five in a row this year. now too Mickey harte comes up against a kerry manager in his second year having won the previous final. jack O Connor was a great tactician, but pat O shea might have the beating of him, and a more mature and hardened bench. The loss of galvin and donaghy has showed how strong the panel is. To have the self belief to put in Moran in a drawn game in Croke park for his championship debut, to have him catch the next high kickout and set up the goal chance is indicative that this manager knows his panel very well indeed.

With all Joe Brolly's talk of Tyrone building a dynasty- where is it? two virgin all irelands in the past five years, will they now go on to beat kerry and establish a new order? The weight of history weighs heavy in Kerry, if you could ask any Kerry player and supporter who they would have loved to meet in this final they would have unhesitently said Tyrone. The Dubs and Cork were put down last year by the Kingdom, tyrone is all that stands between them and immortality, I don't think Tyrone will be able to grind out a win over a team that fired up. Kerry by 2 goals, not 6 points, two goals, Walsh and Donaghy to get one each.

K-9

I do think Kerry will get a goal or two but people are seriously over estimating D. O'Se. He hasn't been that impressive this year, Scanlon has overshadowed him. He needs a big 30/40 minutes here. McGinley has been immense for Tyrone and Holmes or Jordan can partner him effectively.

Allied to that Harte, Gormley, Dooher and Joe McMahon are there to win the breaking ball. Cavanagh can come back too.

Kerry have yet to play a team with such outstanding attacking defenders. 6/7 points from their back line yesterday. The support play and foot passing are class to watch.

Tyrone will not panic if they concede a goal or two as their forwards have been exceptional this year, barring the Westmeath and Mayo games, where they had plenty of chances, they just didn't convert. McCullough has been class and can exploit what looks to be a weak Kerry full back line. T. McGuigan was quite yesterday, but Penrose stepped up to the mark instead. If you keep 1/2 quite, the rest seem to perform instead!

I would have though the comparisons with Armagh would have stopped by now. Completely different teams and systems. Tyrone don't use the long ball half as much, more 20/30 yard foot passes and hand passing. Because it's not all long balls into the full forwards, the problem of waiting for support doesn't occur like with Armagh. There always is players in support!

Anyway, odds of 6/4 and 13/8 being quoted for Tyrone look good. It's 50/50 in my book!

CyberDave

Seanies32 wrote: »

I do think Kerry will get a goal or two but people are seriously over estimating D. O'Se. He hasn't been that impressive this year, Scanlon has overshadowed him. He needs a big 30/40 minutes here. McGinley has been immense for Tyrone and Holmes or Jordan can partner him effectively.

Allied to that Harte, Gormley, Dooher and Joe McMahon are there to win the breaking ball. Cavanagh can come back too.

Kerry have yet to play a team with such outstanding attacking defenders. 6/7 points from their back line yesterday. The support play and foot passing are class to watch.

Tyrone will not panic if they concede a goal or two as their forwards have been exceptional this year, barring the Westmeath and Mayo games, where they had plenty of chances, they just didn't convert. McCullough has been class and can exploit what looks to be a weak Kerry full back line. T. McGuigan was quite yesterday, but Penrose stepped up to the mark instead. If you keep 1/2 quite, the rest seem to perform instead!

I would have though the comparisons with Armagh would have stopped by now. Completely different teams and systems. Tyrone don't use the long ball half as much, more 20/30 yard foot passes and hand passing. Because it's not all long balls into the full forwards, the problem of waiting for support doesn't occur like with Armagh. There always is players in support!

Anyway, odds of 6/4 and 13/8 being quoted for Tyrone look good. It's 50/50 in my book!

and also the threat of a return of Owen Mulligan!!

Erin Go Brath

I've got a feeling Tyrone will have too much for Kerry in the final. They really look the business, a very skillful, very hard working, very energetic, seriously calm and composed team they were an absolute joy to watch picking off points for fun. Wexford gave it a good go in the 2nd half, but Tyrone always had the measure of them, and went up another gear when they had do so. They probably didn't reach the heights they reached against Dublin, but they were pretty impressive nonetheless.

Kerry love playing Cork in Croke Park they almost always get the better of them. They looked wonderful in parts, and somewhat vulnerable in other parts. I think there are plenty of weaknesses in that Kerry defence that Tyrone have the ability to exploit. If Kerry 'turn off' like they seemed to against Tyrone they could well find themselveds in serious trouble.

This should be a very interesting final and it should be a close one and hard to call, but i feel Tyrone will edge it!

mumhaabu

Kerry men stand tall lest we forget our fallen heroes of 2003.

Kerry people have never in the annals of History looked forward to a final like this and there is talk of over 90,000 travelling to Dublin from Kerry alone for this one, Tickets are golddust. The demons of past will be excorcised and there has never is history been a final of importance to the Kingdom the true bearers of the flame. Kieran Donaghy and Tommy Walsh will unleash the biggest bombing campaign since the Luftwaffle blitzed London in 1942.

Kerry will not only win this game but we will hammer Tyrone in unprecedented fashion. Kerry are not afraid of Northern teams and we proved this in 2006 when Armagh were sent with their tails between their legs.

Dublin hammer Wexford = Dublin fail
Tyrone hammer Wexford = Tyrone fail

Wexford while a good footballing side scored 1-14 against this Tyrone team and Kerry will expolit their weaknesses to the extreme, Kerry will tighten up and are due their biggest game in all of history. We will go into the record books as the greatest ever surpassing our previous best. The negative northerners will be dispatched for once and for all. Tyrone put out full strenght teams in previous NFL meetings and Kerry on quarter throttle matched evenly.

Kerry have had 5 hard battles with Cork, Monaghan, Galway, Cork and Cork again.

It is simply war and Kerry will not bow down to the North and their "supporters" Armagh people sadly have been unfairly branded because of Tyrone who have the very worst supporters in NI. Brian Dooher will get his comuppance and it will be a joy to watch as any WestMeath man will agree.

The Kingdom by 10points and the bearded fellas to cross the border well and truly smacked as the greatest ever footballing team rewrites all record books.

08-KY-SAM36
3-in-a-row

Waylander

For teh first time in a few years, I can see someone beating Kerry. Kerry have taken to concedeing big scores this year, not to mention losing leads that they would ordinarily put away. its very unlike Kerry, and Tyrone are good enough to punish them seriously for it. I think they might be beieiving their own press that there is noone near them out there. Having said that, Kerry have always done enough to beat the team playing against them, without really turingin it on so it is always hard to tell just how good they are. Their full back line looks ropey this year, and Tyrone are on the back of two high scoring performances.

I think it will be a high scoring match, that could go either way, but I htink Tyrone will just about shade it.

homerjay2005

mumhaabu wrote: »

Kerry men stand tall lest we forget our fallen heroes of 2003.

i find this post quite ridiculous to be honest. are you really from kerry?

posts like this really bother me, theres no room on here for this sort of tripe!

there aint barealy 90000 people in kerry. we will have about 15000 at the final, no more. tyrone to have about 20000, the rest will be neutrals. i wont even bother to digest the rest of it.

kerry1960

mumhaabu wrote: »

Kerry men stand tall lest we forget our fallen heroes of 2003.

Kerry people have never in the annals of History looked forward to a final like this and there is talk of over 90,000 travelling to Dublin from Kerry alone for this one, Tickets are golddust. The demons of past will be excorcised and there has never is history been a final of importance to the Kingdom the true bearers of the flame. Kieran Donaghy and Tommy Walsh will unleash the biggest bombing campaign since the Luftwaffle blitzed London in 1942.

Kerry will not only win this game but we will hammer Tyrone in unprecedented fashion. Kerry are not afraid of Northern teams and we proved this in 2006 when Armagh were sent with their tails between their legs.

Dublin hammer Wexford = Dublin fail
Tyrone hammer Wexford = Tyrone fail

Wexford while a good footballing side scored 1-14 against this Tyrone team and Kerry will expolit their weaknesses to the extreme, Kerry will tighten up and are due their biggest game in all of history. We will go into the record books as the greatest ever surpassing our previous best. The negative northerners will be dispatched for once and for all. Tyrone put out full strenght teams in previous NFL meetings and Kerry on quarter throttle matched evenly.

Kerry have had 5 hard battles with Cork, Monaghan, Galway, Cork and Cork again.

It is simply war and Kerry will not bow down to the North and their "supporters" Armagh people sadly have been unfairly branded because of Tyrone who have the very worst supporters in NI. Brian Dooher will get his comuppance and it will be a joy to watch as any WestMeath man will agree.

The Kingdom by 10points and the bearded fellas to cross the border well and truly smacked as the greatest ever footballing team rewrites all record books.

08-KY-SAM36
3-in-a-row

ffs , i hope this not a kerryperson , what a load of 5hite , this 5hite gives us geinuine Kerry supporters a bad name , just ignore it .

If we're good enough we'll win , and so be it if we dont .

63587614

SetantaL wrote: »

okay- having a good long look at this one.

Historical perspective. Last meetings in 2003 & 2005 cannot really be judged as the panels are radically different.

Donaghy joined the panel in 2006, and now Tommy Walsh has added another dimension to the attack. In 2003 Kerry were over- reliant on Gooch and Tyrone simply beat him up. They also had the services of seamus Moynihan who brought a rock to the defense.

Tyrone too, have had two injury plagued years but impressive young players have moved up to fill the gap. Brian Dooher and kavanagh are their on field leaders and have replaced the loss of Peter Canavan. They have Harte who looks like he was the manager that had cracked the code to unlock Kerry.

The tactics are going to be new. Kerry are going to pump high ball into Donaghy and Walsh and will this negate the blanket defensive tactics.
I don't think the Tyrone defence is as organised or as strong as to be able to stiffle two players that are 6'5. Walsh was shrugging off three defenders yesterday with ease on occasion.

The key for Tyrone will be to stop Kerry going forward from the half back line and the wings and to monopolise midfield. Darragh O Shea and Paul Galvin back scrapping for breaks will make this a harder task.

I think that this game is just a bridge too far for Tyrone this year. They have 5 players I believe from the U21 panel which gives them great speed but Kerry have been through the fire so often this year- against monaghan, Galway and twice against Cork they have lost substantial leads and then pulled away again when it mattered.

tyrone are going to hassle the back line relentlessly, how many of kerry's attacks start with Marc O shea or Tomas breaking free down the wings. but this Tyrone team is a different tam, they no longer grind out wins with low scoring 1 point wins, they were in free flowing scoring form and have forwards to kick 23 points in an all ireland semi final is no mean feat.

The turning point comparison I can see is Kerry and Armagh in 2006 in the quarter final. Kerry went down to 14 men and the blanket defense didn't work when kerry went route one to Dongaghy, since then Kerry have not lost to a Northern team in meetings with Monaghan, Derry, Down.

The historical signifigance is huge, Kerry putting down the team that has effectively stopped them going for five in a row this year. now too Mickey harte comes up against a kerry manager in his second year having won the previous final. jack O Connor was a great tactician, but pat O shea might have the beating of him, and a more mature and hardened bench. The loss of galvin and donaghy has showed how strong the panel is. To have the self belief to put in Moran in a drawn game in Croke park for his championship debut, to have him catch the next high kickout and set up the goal chance is indicative that this manager knows his panel very well indeed.

With all Joe Brolly's talk of Tyrone building a dynasty- where is it? two virgin all irelands in the past five years, will they now go on to beat kerry and establish a new order? The weight of history weighs heavy in Kerry, if you could ask any Kerry player and supporter who they would have loved to meet in this final they would have unhesitently said Tyrone. The Dubs and Cork were put down last year by the Kingdom, tyrone is all that stands between them and immortality, I don't think Tyrone will be able to grind out a win over a team that fired up. Kerry by 2 goals, not 6 points, two goals, Walsh and Donaghy to get one each.

Well said lad.

quad_red

mumhaabu wrote: »

The Kingdom by 10points and the bearded fellas to cross the border well and truly smacked as the greatest ever footballing team rewrites all record books.

Jebus, that's cringe worthy.

homerjay2005

quad_red wrote: »

Jebus, that's cringe worthy.

may i repeat, this is not a genuine kerry fan and is probably a poor attempt at a piss take.

even if he/she is a kerry supporter, as the saying goes, theres always one.


anyway, back on topic.....this is going to be an epic game i think........hopefully high scoring and full of drama, with a kerry win!

would love to see paul start this game and lead the team around croker.

Kotick

It's going to be a close match and I predict that Kerry will match every point that Tyrone makes.

In the end, Kerry will be tired and possibly loose a valuable player to a red card leaving them weak.

Tyrone will win by 3.