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Premiership,etc 29/30/31 August

  • 29-08-2008 8:20am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭


    Chelsea V Spurs @ 2/5 (Playing Sunday)

    Can't argue against Chelsea here. Have started the season very strongly, with a 4-0 win at Stamford Bridge against Portsmouth and scrappy 1-0 win at Wigan last week. Conversely, Spurs have yet to get off the mark going down twice to a scoreline of 2-1 away to Boro and at home to Sunderland last week. Can't see them nicking anything from this game either.

    Chelsea have scored early, and have come out fighting in their first 2 games, with Deco's 4th minute strike last week, and 2 goals in the first 25 minutes against Portsmouth the week before. Thus the HT/FT Chelsea/Chelsea may represent value @Evens.

    As an aside, PP are refunding all losing scorecast singles, correct score and first/last goalscorer singles if Deco scores in 90 minutes. A bit of dutching on the 1-0, 2-0 and 2-1 could work out very nicely here.
    (He has scored in their opening 2 games).

    Thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I have to say there are no terribly attractive bets in the English or Scottish leagues for me, but you make a decent case for the above. Spurs pre-season form has crumbled a la Liverpools. Chelsea should boss the game through sheer "presence" in midfeild.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Chelsea were really bad against Wigan and were outplayed for the 1st half, but Spurs have been appalling. I can't see Spurs scoring but Deco might so Paddypower scorecast doesn't seem that bad for once, 2-0 or 3-0 might be way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Okay people, the following is just an interest bet, but one that came up for me a few times last season and this is the first week I'm doing it this season.

    Anytime Goalscorers, 5 euro acc;
    • Santa-Cruz 15/8 (v West Ham Away)
    • Zaki 2/1 (v Hull Away)
    • Defoe 9/4 (v Everton Away)
    • Adebayor 11/10 (v N'castle Home)
    Returns- 294.33

    Anytime Goalscorers 5 euro acc;
    • Nasri 4/1 (v N'castle Home)
    • Davies 5/2 (v West Brom Home)
    • Yakubu 15/8 (v P'mouth Home)
    • Ashton 9/5 (v Blackburn Home)
    Returns- 704.38

    *Odds- Paddy Power*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    mike65 wrote: »
    I have to say there are no terribly attractive bets in the English or Scottish leagues

    Mike

    Agreed, it's a very tight coupon this week, with the likes of Hull V Wigan ,Celtic V Rangers, Villa V Liverpool and lots of similar ties that could go either way, almost impossible to call. Still very early in the season too.
    Could be a lot of draws this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭StickyMcGinty


    wyndham wrote: »
    Agreed, it's a very tight coupon this week, with the likes of Hull V Wigan ,Celtic V Rangers, Villa V Liverpool and lots of similar ties that could go either way, almost impossible to call. Still very early in the season too.
    Could be a lot of draws this weekend.

    yea i'm looking for a few draws this weekend myself


    Premier League Matches
    Aston Villa v Liverpool
    31-08-2008 16:00
    Win-Draw-Win
    Draw @ 3.20


    Premier League Matches
    West Ham v Blackburn
    30-08-2008 15:00
    Win-Draw-Win
    Draw @ 3.25


    Premier League Matches
    Hull v Wigan Athletic
    30-08-2008 15:00
    Win-Draw-Win
    Draw @ 3.20


    Coca Cola C'ship Matches
    Wolves v Nottm Forest
    30-08-2008 15:00
    Win-Draw-Win
    Draw @ 3.40

    returns ~113/1


    i'll be over at the wolves game, so there's still a chance i might be happy if its a 0-0 snooze fest


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭fergmcd


    Not much this weekend in the Prem. Have a double on Boro to beat Stoke at 8/13 and Chelsea to beat Spurs at 2/5. Pays 2.71
    I'm not that familiar with Serie A but Inter away to Sampdoria @ 10/11 seems a good bet.
    La Liga's 1st week back has a few good bets. The 4 Champions league teams are at good prices. I have treble on
    Deportivo vs Real Madrid @ EVS
    Numancia vs Barcelona @ 8/15
    Atletico Madrid vs Malaga @ 4/9

    Also Osasuna vs Villarreal @ 11/8 is worth a bet.
    My only worry with the bets is that Van Nistelrooy and Van der Vaart were sent off in the Spanish Super Cup and I'm not sure if they are suspended for the Depor game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    i think wigan have a shout and at 2/1 they're worth a go...
    putiing them with chelsea and boro..... still very early in season to rely on any form


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    If the net is being cast wider then

    Derry/Waterford to win tonight and Vitoria/Gremio/Botafogo in Brazils Series A should be good. In Sweden Kalmar is the obvious Nap.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭kenco


    Apologies friends but I am casting my footie betting curse on the following draw double;

    Hull/Wigan and West Ham/Blackburn, approx 9/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    mike65 wrote: »
    If the net is being cast wider then

    Derry/Waterford to win tonight and Vitoria/Gremio/Botafogo in Brazils Series A should be good. In Sweden Kalmar is the obvious Nap.

    Mike

    that is a wide net.... Mike, is your knowledge of brazilian and swedish domestic footie stats based or do you follow their leagues?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    my wee tips for the weekend.

    Wins for

    Everton
    Stoke
    Wigan
    Charlton
    Villa

    Draw
    Chelski/Spurs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    corban

    Its stats based, I watch the odd Brazilian league game on Sportsxchange channel NTL 417. What I find is that the home advatange in Brazil is very important and there are very few upsets. I dont bet every week but when I do its always got me a return (I dont do straight accus - go for patents/fourfolds etc).

    I also check google blogs, type in say Swedish League and see what comes up :)

    I just checked the Derry/Wateford results win/win and I was not on them (typically I was really looking for a trixie but was not confident about any other tie this evening. Shams beat Cork 3-0!)

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭FlawedGenius


    Yes wyndham, fancy Chelsea to beat Spurs handy enough, dont think Spurs will score going for a 1-0, 2-0, 3-0 meself 6/1, 6/1 7/1 and 2-1 7/1 with PP great value! Also doing a 1-0, 2-1, or 2-0 to Arsenal against Newcastle.Although Newcastle are a team on form, they have an abysmal record against the gunners and Arsenal will be out to prove a point after last weeks shock defeat to Fulham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Straight forward triple for me -

    1 Schalke v Bochum (Backing Schalke @ 1.45)
    2 Leeds v Bristol Rovers (Backing Leeds @ 1.6)
    3 Middlesbrough v Stoke (Backing Middlesbrough @ 1.6)

    3.71


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    HT/FT - Chelsea/Chelsea @ 11/10

    Southampton V Blackpool @ 5/6

    Reading V Palace @ 5/6

    Cheltenham V Leicester @ Evs

    Gillingham V Accrington Stanley (Accrington who?) @ 8/11

    5 yoyos on the accie @ c23/1 for an interest bet. ( All PP)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 greystoke


    Barnsley v Derby County
    Backing Derby @3.25 (25 euro)

    Watford v Ipswich Town
    backing Ipswich @3.2 (25 euro)


    Bolton v West Brom (Backing Bolton @ 2.08)
    West Ham v Blackburn (Backing Blackburn @ 2.94)
    20 euro win each
    20 euro double @ 6.11

    Italian Football
    Sampdoria v Inter (Backing Inter @ 1.92)
    Udinese v Palermo (Backing Udinese @ 2.04)
    20 euro win each
    20 euro double @ 3.91

    www.puntersedge.com/forums


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Arsenal vs Newcastle Draw at 3-1 on PP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 greystoke


    expect arsenal to win but their price is too short @1.42


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Football threads merged.


    Feckin Leeds have cost me today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I did 4 aways this weekend. P'mouth and Wigan won today, relying on Man City and Liverpool to bring it on home tomorrow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I can't belive someone backed Derby. 36 games without a win.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    ****ers won the other night when I backed against them. Barnsley are in pretty bad shape too so I kind of see the logic but then again "WHY?"

    Anyway, hope they get relegated. Worst ever side to grace the Premiership - showed absolutely no spirit/fight/bottle whatsoever and was easy to see they'd struggle in a tough hard fought league like the Championship


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Okay people, the following is just an interest bet, but one that came up for me a few times last season and this is the first week I'm doing it this season.

    Anytime Goalscorers, 5 euro acc;
    • Santa-Cruz 15/8 (v West Ham Away)
    • Zaki 2/1 (v Hull Away)
    • Defoe 9/4 (v Everton Away)
    • Adebayor 11/10 (v N'castle Home)
    Returns- 294.33

    unlucky!! santa just let u down...... (dunno why this is in bold, but i cant get rid of it :confused:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    corban wrote: »
    i think wigan have a shout and at 2/1 they're worth a go...
    putiing them with chelsea and boro..... still very early in season to rely on any form

    i cant believe i'm saying this but come on chelski.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    How much have you on and how much of a return are you looking at? Could be worth laying off if you're looking at a serious few quid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    corban wrote: »
    unlucky!! santa just let u down...... (dunno why this is in bold, but i cant get rid of it :confused:)

    Nah mate Adebayor didn't score either. I got a bit greedy. I was confident of Zaki and Defoe but not of Roque and Adebayor. Should have taken those two out and put Torres and maybe Anelka in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    Collie D:"How much have you on and how much of a return are you looking at? Could be worth laying off if you're looking at a serious few quid?"



    i have a €70 acc on so looking at getting about €475 back.... inc stake.. if chelsea win that is???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Nah mate Adebayor didn't score either. I got a bit greedy. I was confident of Zaki and Defoe but not of Roque and Adebayor. Should have taken those two out and put Torres and maybe Anelka in.

    sorry i was told adebayor scored but it was van persie, but its a bet i might consider in the future... perhaps keep it to 2/3 players max


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    corban wrote: »
    i have a €70 acc on so looking at getting about €475 back.... inc stake.. if chelsea win that is???

    Nice. Spurs are playing below par at the moment and I can't see them causing Chelsea too much hassle at the Bridge.

    I have a €5 accumulator on stretching from today to tomorrow. Wigan and P'mouth did the job today and I'm hoping Pool and Man City do it tomorrow. Looking at about 253 back, not bad for a 5er if it works out!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    Collie D wrote: »
    How much have you on and how much of a return are you looking at? Could be worth laying off if you're looking at a serious few quid?

    think i'm gonna let it roll


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Nice. Spurs are playing below par at the moment and I can't see them causing Chelsea too much hassle at the Bridge.

    I have a €5 accumulator on stretching from today to tomorrow. Wigan and P'mouth did the job today and I'm hoping Pool and Man City do it tomorrow. Looking at about 253 back, not bad for a 5er if it works out!

    that is a good bet, i hope it lands, but i'd be worried about city away...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    kenco wrote: »
    Apologies friends but I am casting my footie betting curse on the following draw double;

    Hull/Wigan and West Ham/Blackburn, approx 9/1
    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    corban wrote: »
    that is a good bet, i hope it lands, but i'd be worried about city away...

    I know, but S'land defence is a real weakness. I think if SWP, Elano and Jo are at their best they can make S'land pay for mistakes. I'm honestly more worried about Liva'.

    sorry i was told adebayor scored but it was van persie, but its a bet i might consider in the future... perhaps keep it to 2/3 players max

    It's all relative really, it depends on how much your willing to put on. If you're gonna put 20+ on it there is no need to go over 2/3 picks. I'm thinking about doing a 10er treble tomorrow, maybe Deco, Torres and McDonald.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I know, but S'land defence is a real weakness. I think if SWP, Elano and Jo are at their best they can make S'land pay for mistakes. I'm honestly more worried about Liva'.




    It's all relative really, it depends on how much your willing to put on. If you're gonna put 20+ on it there is no need to go over 2/3 picks. I'm thinking about doing a 10er treble tomorrow, maybe Deco, Torres and McDonald.

    thats about 30/1, not bad, was just looking myself and i might do:
    deco and cisse... gonna include penno taker for celtic as soon as i find out who that is? will update shortly

    mcdonald took last penno against rangers, so i'll go for him, deco and cisse.... 33/1 a small punt to start with


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    corban wrote: »
    thats about 30/1, not bad, was just looking myself and i might do:
    deco and cisse... gonna include penno taker for celtic as soon as i find out who that is? will update shortly

    Jesus you're right. I was looking at the odds with Ladbrokes and it only came to 15/1 whereas with PP it's almost double that. PP are miles better for the anytime goalscorer odds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Jesus you're right. I was looking at the odds with Ladbrokes and it only came to 15/1 whereas with PP it's almost double that. PP are miles better for the anytime goalscorer odds.

    its just over 30s with boyles... 15/1 with lads? they have to be the worst bookies in ireland....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Any good ones for today gents? Chelsea will definitely beat Spurs, dunno about the other two though.

    Chelsea/Sunderland/Villa treble is ~9/1 on PP
    It's ~8/1 for C/S/Liverpool

    Might put a 10er on Sunderland + Villa, and another on Sunderland + Liverpool

    Is Cisse likely to start today? Himself and Deco to score any time is 13/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Dave! wrote: »
    Any good ones for today gents? Chelsea will definitely beat Spurs, dunno about the other two though.

    Chelsea/Sunderland/Villa treble is ~9/1 on PP
    It's ~8/1 for C/S/Liverpool

    Might put a 10er on Sunderland + Villa, and another on Sunderland + Liverpool

    Is Cisse likely to start today? Himself and Deco to score any time is 13/1

    I've got an acc. continuing on from yesterday on Man City and Liverpool. Cisse will likely start and Sunderland will be okay going forward but the defence is still a weakness. If Elano, SWP, and Jo are on their game today I don't see it as too much of a stretch to see them winning today. I am honestly more worried about Liverpool.

    I have Deco to score at anytime along with Torres and McDonald.......and I've just seen that McDonald is not playing.:mad::(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    i went for lampard, cisse and mcdonald to score anytime... mcdonald not even in the squad today... still if the other 2 land i'll be happy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    corban wrote: »
    i went for lampard, cisse and mcdonald to score anytime... mcdonald not even in the squad today... still if the other 2 land i'll be happy

    Sorry man I don't know what happened, I've read nothing about him being injured. And the worst thing is that I fancied Samaras to score, but McDonald and Moloney were ahead of him in the odds so I didn't think he'd start!:mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Cheers

    It'd be nice if I won a bet some time soon :(

    Went for 3...

    a. Villa/Sund/Chel
    b. Pool/Sund/Chel
    c. Cisse + Deco any time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Sorry man I don't know what happened, I've read nothing about him being injured. And the worst thing is that I fancied Samaras to score, but McDonald and Moloney were ahead of him in the odds so I didn't think he'd start!:mad:

    not to worry, i should've waited till this morning b4 placing bet... yeah samaras has planted one so unlucky.... anyway if lamps and cisse do the job i wont complain... my big accum is relyin on chelski win, wish i hadnt picked them cos its interupting my hatred for everything blue.... still profit is all important


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    Dave! wrote: »
    Cheers

    It'd be nice if I won a bet some time soon :(

    Went for 3...

    a. Villa/Sund/Chel
    b. Pool/Sund/Chel
    c. Cisse + Deco any time

    best of luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    And lost them all at the first hurdle :) Excellent, lol

    Oh well... I probably woulda paid for Chelsea not to win today, so it's all good :p

    Now I'll spend the rest of the day waiting to hear if United get Berbatov!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭corban


    Dave! wrote: »
    And lost them all at the first hurdle :) Excellent, lol

    Oh well... I probably woulda paid for Chelsea not to win today, so it's all good :p

    Now I'll spend the rest of the day waiting to hear if United get Berbatov!!!

    it does soften d blow alright, slightly...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Someone said Spurs could not score earlier :eek:

    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    As I said earlier, I was more worried about Liverpool than Man City. Thanks Liverpool for letting me down for 254 euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Never bet on Liverpool (or indeed any team in which you have a vested interest of some sort).

    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    mike65 wrote: »
    Never bet on Liverpool (or indeed any team in which you have a vested interest of some sort).

    Mike

    I'll never learn. It's such a bitter pill to swallow considering I picked out results such as Man City and P'mouth.


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