Rottweiler fights dog to save boy

CtrlSource

A South Africa Rottweiler has helped rescue a two-year-old boy who was being mauled by a pit bull terrier.

The pit bull attacked Tshepang Taeli as he was walking with his grandmother in Oakdene, south of Johannesburg.

The dog was dragging the toddler down the road and would not let go, despite being kicked and beaten by residents.

One of the neighbours, Ricky Veludo, came to help and then went to fetch his dog, Blade. "He fought the other dog to free the child," he told a local paper. "Blade is very protective," Mr Veludo told Die Beeld newspaper. The boy was then rushed to hospital where he is recovering from bites to his face, legs and stomach.

"I have never felt so much pain in my life. The dog was attacking him and I was trying to release him and I could not," the boy's grandmother told The Star newspaper.

Police have opened an investigation into the attack. Pitt bulls were originally bred for bull-baiting and are noted for their ferocity.

Rottweilers were not bred for fighting but gained a notorious reputation after being used in The Omen films.

From BBC NEWS

i initially thought that it was a misleading headline and the Rottie was more interested in fighting the Pitt bull, rather than "saving" the child. But it seems he was quite a hero!

Interesting about The Omen being the origin for their bad reps. Never knew that. Thought their fearsome reputation would have pre-dated it

Collie D

CtrlSource wrote: »

[Interesting about The Omen being the origin for their bad reps. Never knew that. Thought their fearsome reputation would have pre-dated it

Same here although I've always thought Rottweilers were good-natured and just got a bad press.

ven0m

Rotties rep goes back to Roman times & before as 'weapons' used on battlefieds, where they'd be trained to go savage people.

They are exceptionally good natured dogs once treated right from the outset from my own experience with them.

Kiera

I think they are very well behaved dogs. Its the owners who train them to be nasty.

connundrum

Fair play to the dog, in fairness.

Naos

Fair play to the dog.

Shame on the neighbours who didn't grab the nearest knife and slit the dogs throat/stab it.

togster

Or shove something up its arse

MicraBoy

Naos wrote: »

Fair play to the dog.

Shame on the neighbours who didn't grab the nearest knife and slit the dogs throat/stab it.

What an ignorant comment. It happened in Johannesburg, so they would obviously have shot the dog instead of stabbing it.

Why am i not surprised that it's you Togster who immediately thinks of that?

Marcus.Aurelius

A pit bull can lock his jaws, it takes a lot of pain to make them let go. Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are wonderful animals with fantastic temperaments. Their tough looks attract the wrong type of owners; scumbags who mistreat them and subsequently abandon them/beat them to death for not turning into the savage monsters they wanted them to be.

Have two staffies myself, they're complete children, can't imagine someone causing pain to such wonderful animals.

Silenceisbliss

togster wrote: »

Or shove something up its arse

oh jesus....shove a banger up its arse! SEE IF STILL WANTS TO HOLD ON TO THE KID THEN!!! BAHAHAHAHHA

on a more serious note, the dog was posing an imminant life threat to the child....would someone maybe not stab the fecker with a screwdriver or a knife. its Africa, im sure there were some gun toting locals in the facinity...WHERE WERE THEY HUH!?!?!

seamus

Collie D wrote: »

Same here although I've always thought Rottweilers were good-natured and just got a bad press.

For their size, Rottweilers are exceptionally strong and resilient to damage. They were bred to be so and it's why they've always been popular as watchdogs and the like, and unfortunately as fighting dogs.

Like every other animal on the planet (including humans) if they're treated badly and raised to be vicious and nasty, then they will act vicious and nasty.

They just get a bad press because when one of the badly-treated ones does lash out, it's likely to do serious damage. If a different type of dog lashes out, it's less likely to do the same kind of damage, and that's no fun for journalists.

ven0m

seamus wrote: »

For their size, Rottweilers are exceptionally strong and resilient to damage. They were bred to be so and it's why they've always been popular as watchdogs and the like, and unfortunately as fighting dogs.

Like every other animal on the planet (including humans) if they're treated badly and raised to be vicious and nasty, then they will act vicious and nasty.

They just get a bad press because when one of the badly-treated ones does lash out, it's likely to do serious damage. If a different type of dog lashes out, it's less likely to do the same kind of damage, and that's no fun for journalists.

Very very true, +1 mate :-)

I love how the headlines will ALWAYS name the breed when it comes to a Rottie/Pitbull or otherwise - pure sensationalism & then some halfwit gets on the news & says how people should't be allowed these breeds.

Some people out there don't deserve to have children too - but you don't get some 'expert' on the news bloody well saying so.

Silenceisbliss

ven0m wrote: »

Very very true, +1 mate :-)

I love how the headlines will ALWAYS name the breed when it comes to a Rottie/Pitbull or otherwise - pure sensationalism & then some halfwit gets on the news & says how people should't be allowed these breeds.

Some people out there don't deserve to have children too - but you don't get some 'expert' on the news bloody well saying so.

this is very true.

as a matter of fact, of all the different breeds of dogs that ive had, from old englsh sheepdogs, to spanials, to irish wolfhounds, to german shepards, and good few more in between.

The alsation we had was the most loyal, the biggest dote, and the most affectionate. the rest of them had their moments where they got angry from time to time (bar one other). and as sweet and cheerful as they all were, the alsation was EASILY the most harmless dote of them all!

That said, he obviously (like any other dog) got in to a few fights with other dogs who wandered into our garden from time to time, the alsation came out tops every time, hands down.

Its not neccesarily the nature of any specific breed of dog that provokes attack, but rather the capability of that dog that is noticed and sensationalised.

but it easy to fear a dog that size, that hyper, and with a bark that loud and deep... but all he wanted to do was run up and jump on you and hug you like any other affectionate dog.

I miss him.... he was such a lil trooper

ven0m

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

That said, he obviously got in to a few fights with other dogs who wandered into our garden from time to time, the alsation came out tops every time, hands down.

territorialism is inherent in the alsation breed - they are quite nervy & dis-trustful in their natural disposition, hence the whole thing of not being able to approach to pet them from the open handed, palm down postion from above, & the whole outstretched open palm-side-up approach being required upon first meetings with family pet alsations :-)

dr.bollocko

Wow.
Looks like it is a dog eat dog world after all then.

/runs very quickly away from the scene of the puncrime.

stevoman

ven0m wrote: »

Rotties rep goes back to Roman times & before as 'weapons' used on battlefieds, where they'd be trained to go savage people.

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The breed is an ancient one, whose history stretches back to the Roman Empire. In those times, the legions traveled with their meat on the hoof and required the assistance of working dogs to herd the cattle. One route the army traveled was through Württemberg and on to the small market town of Rottweil. The principal ancestors of the first Rottweilers during this time was supposed to be the Roman war dog, local sheepdogs the army met on its travels, and dogs with molosser appearance coming from England and The Netherlands.

This region eventually became an important cattle area, and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth in both driving and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals. However, by the end of the 19th Century, the breed had declined so much that in 1900 there was only one female to be found in the town of Rottweil. The build up to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. In fact, in the mid 1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all time high with it being the 2nd most registered dog by the AKC

ven0m

stevoman wrote: »

The breed is an ancient one, whose history stretches back to the Roman Empire. In those times, the legions traveled with their meat on the hoof and required the assistance of working dogs to herd the cattle. One route the army traveled was through Württemberg and on to the small market town of Rottweil. The principal ancestors of the first Rottweilers during this time was supposed to be the Roman war dog, local sheepdogs the army met on its travels, and dogs with molosser appearance coming from England and The Netherlands.

This region eventually became an important cattle area, and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth in both driving and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals. However, by the end of the 19th Century, the breed had declined so much that in 1900 there was only one female to be found in the town of Rottweil. The build up to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. In fact, in the mid 1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all time high with it being the 2nd most registered dog by the AKC

Figured I may have had it arseways - now I've learned something new .... awesome!!!!

ty for correction.

stevoman

ven0m wrote: »

Figured I may have had it arseways - now I've learned something new .... awesome!!!!

ty for correction.

No i have one. we even have a cart for him where he can cart things around!

Steve_o

That'll do pig dog, that'll do....

peasant

stevoman wrote: »

The breed is an ancient one, whose history stretches back to the Roman Empire. In those times, the legions traveled with their meat on the hoof and required the assistance of working dogs to herd the cattle. One route the army traveled was through Württemberg and on to the small market town of Rottweil. The principal ancestors of the first Rottweilers during this time was supposed to be the Roman war dog, local sheepdogs the army met on its travels, and dogs with molosser appearance coming from England and The Netherlands.

This region eventually became an important cattle area, and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth in both driving and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals. However, by the end of the 19th Century, the breed had declined so much that in 1900 there was only one female to be found in the town of Rottweil. The build up to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. In fact, in the mid 1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all time high with it being the 2nd most registered dog by the AKC

That's what the breeders websites want you to believe.
If you were to get hold of a time machine and travel back to Rottweil at the times of the Romans, you may find big dogs there, but you will also find that they looked nothing like a "Rottweiler".

Most breeds as we know them today are a rather modern invention and date back as "far" as the mid 1800's and no further ...with the exception of a few hunting breeds that were the priviledge of nobility over the centuries, like the Greyhound for example.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Naos wrote: »

Shame on the neighbours who didn't grab the nearest knife and slit the dogs throat/stab it.

Impossible, the babies leg was in it

Overheal

there is no better breed of dog

http://www.petsplace.co.za/Rottweiler%20puppy.jpg

helimachoptor

ven0m wrote: »

territorialism is inherent in the alsation breed - they are quite nervy & dis-trustful in their natural disposition, hence the whole thing of not being able to approach to pet them from the open handed, palm down postion from above, & the whole outstretched open palm-side-up approach being required upon first meetings with family pet alsations :-)

From having been raised around GSDs and having a couple myself I would disagree with this. I find them confident animals, I've had friends and family knock over and feed my dog if i'm away or a few days and there's never any bother and one would be nervous as he's such a big dog.

When were out walking he rarely bothers with other dogs unless they come to him, he's happy to go grass sniffing and anyone who stops to talk to me he is extremely friendly with. He had to spend a night with the vet a while ago and I quote "the most social, friendly and good natured dog he's ever seen" and this guy is well in his 50's.

nyarlothothep

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Wow.
Looks like it is a dog eat dog world after all then.

/runs very quickly away from the scene of the puncrime.

you should be punished

dlofnep

Go'wan the dog!

Peared

Have to disagree wholly with the assertion that dogs will only attack when they are reared by assh*les.

They are animals and many will tear a baby limb from limb in the same way they would a lump of meat if left with them.

I have seen dogs (rottweilers/german shepherds) reared in loving homes, with acres to roam and good food and affection etc turn on not only people but also each other.

Id say this fella might be a one off but I still wouldn't leave a kid alone with it afterwards.

markos79

great story, it just shows you how good natured dogs can be if they are treated properly by their owners!

here another great story.


A Doberman has saved a toddler from a deadly snake bite in what has been described as an unbelievable act. [/B]
As 17-month-old Charlotte Svillicic frolicked in the backyard of her Far North Queensland home on Monday, a king brown snake — the world's third most venomous — approached, The Cairns Post reported.
Khan, a Doberman new to the Svillicic's Atheron home just four days after rescuing it from an animal shelter, was alerted to the danger and miraculously flung the little girl from the snake's reach, and earned a poisonous bite on the leg for its troubles.
"If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would never have believed it," Charlotte's mother, Catherine Svillicic, told The Post.
"Khan was really concentrating and was acting aggressive towards Charlotte and kept trying to nudge her but it wasn't working, so he grabbed her by the back of the nappy and threw her more than a metre.
"Charlotte looked pretty shocked and then Khan screamed.
"I realised quickly it was a snake and Khan had been trying to get in between her and the snake before he threw her."
Khan received a shot of anti-venom from a local vet and apart from being very sick of the night of the attack, will make a full recovery.

brianthebard

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

oh jesus....shove a banger up its arse! SEE IF STILL WANTS TO HOLD ON TO THE KID THEN!!! BAHAHAHAHHA

on a more serious note, the dog was posing an imminant life threat to the child....would someone maybe not stab the fecker with a screwdriver or a knife. its Africa, im sure there were some gun toting locals in the facinity...WHERE WERE THEY HUH!?!?!

Probably oppressing the black people or shooting endangered animals?

MayMay

markos79 wrote: »

great story, it just shows you how good natured dogs can be if they are treated properly by their owners!

here another great story.


A Doberman has saved a toddler from a deadly snake bite in what has been described as an unbelievable act. [/B]
As 17-month-old Charlotte Svillicic frolicked in the backyard of her Far North Queensland home on Monday, a king brown snake — the world's third most venomous — approached, The Cairns Post reported.
Khan, a Doberman new to the Svillicic's Atheron home just four days after rescuing it from an animal shelter, was alerted to the danger and miraculously flung the little girl from the snake's reach, and earned a poisonous bite on the leg for its troubles.
"If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would never have believed it," Charlotte's mother, Catherine Svillicic, told The Post.
"Khan was really concentrating and was acting aggressive towards Charlotte and kept trying to nudge her but it wasn't working, so he grabbed her by the back of the nappy and threw her more than a metre.
"Charlotte looked pretty shocked and then Khan screamed.
"I realised quickly it was a snake and Khan had been trying to get in between her and the snake before he threw her."
Khan received a shot of anti-venom from a local vet and apart from being very sick of the night of the attack, will make a full recovery.

That's a great story:) Glad the dog is okay too.

ven0m

helimachoptor wrote: »

From having been raised around GSDs and having a couple myself I would disagree with this. I find them confident animals, I've had friends and family knock over and feed my dog if i'm away or a few days and there's never any bother and one would be nervous as he's such a big dog.

When were out walking he rarely bothers with other dogs unless they come to him, he's happy to go grass sniffing and anyone who stops to talk to me he is extremely friendly with. He had to spend a night with the vet a while ago and I quote "the most social, friendly and good natured dog he's ever seen" and this guy is well in his 50's.

Take a pedigree GSD & try tell me otherwise .... I've had people who breed pedigree GSD's tell me that when i went looking to find me a long haired GSD with an exceptional blood line.

newballsplease

Joker wrote: »

A pit bull can lock his jaws, it takes a lot of pain to make them let go. Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are wonderful animals with fantastic temperaments. Their tough looks attract the wrong type of owners; scumbags who mistreat them and subsequently abandon them/beat them to death for not turning into the savage monsters they wanted them to be.

Have two staffies myself, they're complete children, can't imagine someone causing pain to such wonderful animals.

true but they are very protective of their masters and can easily snap at any minute to an unsuspecting friend or stranger etc.
ive witnessed it, and this one in paticular was well trained by his owner.

leninbenjamin

newballsplease wrote: »

true but they are very protective of their masters and can easily snap at any minute to an unsuspecting friend or stranger etc.
ive witnessed it, and this one in paticular was well trained by his owner.

almost every dog does this (depending on the cirumstances).

especially the smaller ones.

Fyr.Fytr

Joker wrote: »

A pit bull can lock his jaws, it takes a lot of pain to make them let go. Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are wonderful animals with fantastic temperaments. Their tough looks attract the wrong type of owners; scumbags who mistreat them and subsequently abandon them/beat them to death for not turning into the savage monsters they wanted them to be.

Have two staffies myself, they're complete children, can't imagine someone causing pain to such wonderful animals.

Couldnt agree more, my staffie would lick you to death rather then bite.

Bit territorial towards other dogs but humans hes the best ever. It shows the temprement of a dog when its injured. Most dogs will snap is you go near them when they're injured, any staff ive had has just wipered and cowered but let you look after it.

Oh by the way staticly jack russels are the most dangerous dogs (well NUTS magazine said so!)

Dave!

Rotters should be compulsary for all neighbourhood watch groups in Ireland.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Joker wrote: »

A pit bull can lock his jaws, it takes a lot of pain to make them let go.

Actually thats a myth, there is no breed of dog which can lock its jaws.

Some good Pitbull reading.

pwd

rottweiler is a very aggressive sounding name - phonetically, aside from any mental associations. That would influence the way they are perceived and portrayed. People wouldn't have the same attitude towards them if they were called poodles.

pickarooney

Remind me never to leave a baby unattended in an Australian garden.

arybvtcw0eolkf

pickarooney wrote: »

Remind me never to leave a baby unattended in an Australian garden.

Dingo's!.

seamus

Peared wrote: »

They are animals and many will tear a baby limb from limb in the same way they would a lump of meat if left with them.

That is possibly the biggest pile of crap I have ever read on this forum. And this is After Hours!

How many babies were ripped to shred by otherwise loving and peaceful dogs last year? The year before that? How about in the last ten years?

Dogs will occasionally cause small scratches or bites to babies as they attempt to care for them but do not understand that human children are much more fragile than puppies. A mother will often snap at or nip her pups to keep them in line, where this would cause damage to a human baby.

Dogs are capable of compassion similar to that of humans and other mammals and female dogs in particular will often take on a carer role around babies and small children.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,408941,00.html

padi89

Joker wrote: »

A pit bull can lock his jaws

WOW! I can't understand how an owner of two Bull Terrier breeds still believes this ****e?

Sherifu

Rottweilers always make me nervous. They do get a lot of bad press.

helimachoptor

ven0m wrote: »

Take a pedigree GSD & try tell me otherwise .... I've had people who breed pedigree GSD's tell me that when i went looking to find me a long haired GSD with an exceptional blood line.

My grandfather was a breeder of perdigrees until 5 years ago....

Saying GSD's are nervous dogs is idiotic, if that was the case I dont think the worlds police forces would be using them....

ven0m

helimachoptor wrote: »

My grandfather was a breeder of perdigrees until 5 years ago....

Saying GSD's are nervous dogs is idiotic, if that was the case I dont think the worlds police forces would be using them....

maybe not 'nervous' in the sense of the word, but they are distrustful bastards, & I've often found I have to let them approach me, rather than the other way around - unlike other breeds, but meh - this has bugger all to do with the OP, same as my previous posts - so I'll digress.