Will paedophelia ever be accepted

ssmith6287

Just as all the crap about gary glitter on the news, it got me thinking. About 50 years ago homosexuality was seen as been disgusting and a crime. Just wondering in time will this happen with paedofiles. Personally I'm slightly homophobic, but I dont think I could ever consider accepting a paedofile

Delirium

I don't think so because unlike homosexuality its not between consenting adults. Actually on a side note, I remember hearing about a political party in Holland trying to get it legalised.:eek:

Kintarō Hattori

It's shocking and a little disturbing that you even need an answer to this question.

mike65

I can't accept your spelling (and mine's no great sheiks).

Mike.

JC 2K3

Paedophiles hurt children, homosexuals harm no one. There's a difference.

Turd Ferguson

Paedophile

Tak3n

maybe reduce the legal age to have sex to 14 or something cant see it ever being legal to touch up 5 year olds :S

spurious

There is no comparison between two adults of the same sex willingly engaging in sexual acts and the rape of a child.

Being homophobic is just the start of your problems if you think what you seem to think.

Rob_l

Yes I reckon by 2014 it will be allowed in europe :eek::eek:

TwoShedsJackson

Pretty unlikely. Homosexuality usually involves two consenting adults who know what they're doing. Paedophilia involves someone preying on a child who is likely to be innocent and not fully aware of what they're doing.

Smart Bug

mike65 wrote: »

I can't accept your spelling (and mine's no great sheiks).

Mike.

Calss coment.

Turd Ferguson

JC 2K3 wrote: »

homosexuals harm no one

You've obviously never been in River Island during the sales

AnonoBoy

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

You've obviously never been in River Island during the sales

Burt Reynolds Turd Ferguson - you're my hero for the day!

Vic Vinegar

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

You've obviously never been in River Island during the sales

ROFL! :D:D:D

To the OP, you're not asking out of personal interest in the subject matter I hope.

indough

it already has been at some stages of history in different cultures, probably will be again at some stage

biko

Like someone said above, maybe legal age will be lowered a little but hopefully it'll never been legal for an adult to have their way with a child.

c0rk3r

Just wait until 2012. It may be an olympic sport in london.

Thanks to the Atheists on boards incest will also be represented in numbers at 2012

Sherifu

They could lower the age of consent to 12. Try to attract our great writers and poets back.

c0rk3r wrote: »

Just wait until 2012. It may be an olympic sport in london.

Thanks to the Atheists on boards incest will also be represented in numbers at 2012

Josephine: "Dang, Cletus, why'd you have to park next to my parents?"
Cletus: "Now, honey, it's my parents, too."

ronbyrne2005

I beleive being sexually turned on by pre pubescent kids in a natural thing in a small % of population. I beleive being turned on by post pubescent girls is a natural thing for most males despite the girl being only 13/14/15. Whats wrong is when this feelings are acted upon. It's rape/sexual assualt whether it's an adult being raped or a teenager or a child but obviously most people see raping a young person as more severe for a variety of reasons.

Not wrong to be turned on but wrong to act on these feelings.

The_Minister

It depends on what you consider to be paedophilia.

Will a six year old be fair game? VERY unlikely.

Will a 14-year-old? AFAIK there is a country in Europe with an age of consent this low already.

EDIT: According to wiki, the age of consent in Spain is 13.

ronbyrne2005

indough wrote: »

it already has been at some stages of history in different cultures, probably will be again at some stage

Mad to think that everyone of us has ancestors who conceived at/had sex at very young ages . Incest was probably rampant in early ancestors or should i say incestors.

Dudess

Yep, we can be sexual beings from as young as 12 - yet the thought of 12-year-olds having sex makes me shudder. Obviously that is socially/culturally derived. Then again, females can have babies from the age of 13 but they're not equipped to deal with it emotionally.

c0rk3r wrote: »

Thanks to the Atheists on boards incest will also be represented in numbers at 2012

Are you deliberately choosing to misinterpret what people were saying on that thread (namely incest between two consenting adults shouldn't land them a jail sentence - that's ALL, nobody was saying incest is wonderful and there should be more incest in this world) or are you... I dunno how to put it... just stupid?

nhughes100

True the age of consent does vary a lot, it's around 14 in some asian countries and for some strange reason the age of consent is different in Ireland for males and females. And apparantly there is some organisation in Holland(where else) that is looking to promote such interests. It'll never be accepted although it does seem to more widespread then anyone would like to think.

ronbyrne2005

nhughes100 wrote: »

True the age of consent does vary a lot, it's around 14 in some asian countries and for some strange reason the age of consent is different in Ireland for males and females.

Cos Irish girls are slappers and can't keep their legs shut?

Permabear

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c0rk3r

Dudess wrote: »

Are you deliberately choosing to misinterpret what people were saying on that thread (namely incest between two consenting adults shouldn't land them a jail sentence - that's ALL, nobody was saying incest is wonderful and there should be more incest in this world) or are you... I dunno how to put it... just stupid?

:rolleyes: err "After Hours". It was clearly a joke

buckieburd

NAMBLA will soon be a registered charity....:D

o1s1n

nhughes100 wrote: »

and for some strange reason the age of consent is different in Ireland for males and females.

No it's not.

Dudess

c0rk3r wrote: »

:rolleyes: err "After Hours". It was clearly a joke

Well sorry for misinterpreting you, but your rage and disregard for logical points on that particular thread made it difficult for me not to jump to the conclusion that you were being serious.

Permabear

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Rayven199

I see where you're coming from on this one, and im sure thats what pedophiles will try to argue; but It will never be legalised because as its been said before by a few others, the act must be between consenting adults who understand the situation and what they are about to engage in.

And no one is forced into doing it. And its sick and perverted.
And committed by horrible bastar*s

Wagon

Historically, it's gotten LESS acceptable. The Spartans, the Romans and i think the Greeks, buggered the browns off young boys. Then those boys buggered the brown off young boys when they became men. I can't see it changing to be honest. A pedophile is the worst thing you can be these days.

ssmith6287

thanks for the piss takes, but nah I dont have urges for kids, just a general thought. When ye look back in history, many things that were once thought of as being disgusting, not right etc have been overturned. I used homosexuality as an example but even take black people in past times. Like ive said im not up for paedophiles being accepted but whos to say in years to come that they wont. Im sure your great grandparents never thought theyd see the day were 2 gays could be accepted.

ssmith6287

Rayven199 wrote: »

I see where you're coming from on this one, and im sure thats what pedophiles will try to argue; but It will never be legalised because as its been said before by a few others, the act must be between consenting adults who understand the situation and what they are about to engage in.

And no one is forced into doing it. And its sick and perverted.
And committed by horrible bastar*s

Saying that, go to any nightclub in the country and youll find at least 4 or 5 13-14 year olds that have developed quicker. Now ya can be done for rape and having sex with a minor even iff these consent and in this day and age 13 and 14 year olds are becoming veterans of sex

ScumLord

Children don't understand sex. Paedophiles are taking advantage of their naivete, an adult can convince a child to do just about anything because of the trust they have for older people. I can't see how anyone could justify taking advantage of a young person like that.

Dudess

ssmith6287 wrote: »

When ye look back in history, many things that were once thought of as being disgusting, not right etc have been overturned. I used homosexuality as an example but even take black people in past times. Like ive said im not up for paedophiles being accepted but whos to say in years to come that they wont. Im sure your great grandparents never thought theyd see the day were 2 gays could be accepted.

Oh for ****'s sake. Equality of black people and the decriminalisation of homosexuality were more based on people having a bit of cop-on and realising it was unjust to treat these people this way - in other words, the realisation they weren't doing (or being in the case of black people) anything wrong.
Paedophilic tendencies are deviant ones - it may feel right to the adult who's having sex with the child, but it sure as hell doesn't to the child, therefore it's not gonna be accepted.

Ridiculous comparing it with homosexuality and black people...

You're saying "well it might be seen as disgusting but a lot of things that were seen as disgusting have become acceptable". It's not about paedophilia being disgusting, it's about it violating young kids. Two consenting men or women having a relationship isn't violating anyone - other than putting bigots' noses out of joint.

Nevyn

There was a time when those who were attracted to young girls just married them at the age of 13 and if you had enough money no one minded what you did with the stable boy or other children who were hired to work be it sweeping chimneys, in the fields or the house.

Daithi McGee

I would imagine that in the future, probably like decades away, paedophilia will become more properly defined. Anyone who is of sexual age will be allowed to have consentual sex. It will take a while in coming but it takes a long time to convince society as it is made up of a lot of dumbos.

Permabear

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The_Minister

For the purposes of debate, can we seperate paedophilia and pedestry? Having sex with a 13 year old is wrong (IMO), but having sex with a 6 year old is worse.

ssmith6287

The_Minister wrote: »

For the purposes of debate, can we seperate paedophilia and pedestry? Having sex with a 13 year old is wrong (IMO), but having sex with a 6 year old is worse.

I understand, sorry I thought it was all classed under the same name

ssmith6287

donegalfella wrote: »

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Jeesus im not trying to make an arguement for them, I think its sick, and ye shud be shot for it. just trying to make a general point

Rayven199

ssmith6287 wrote: »

Saying that, go to any nightclub in the country and youll find at least 4 or 5 13-14 year olds that have developed quicker. Now ya can be done for rape and having sex with a minor even iff these consent and in this day and age 13 and 14 year olds are becoming veterans of sex

Thats very true and I actually wouldnt consider someone who slept with a 13-14 year old a pedophile, it is wrong, but i would call someone a pedophile if they went after someone who was 10 or less. Dont know why I think that way but there ye go.

I think some guys get screwed (in certain circumstances) because they think a girl is older.

Nevyn

There was a time when those who were attracted to young girls just married them at the age of 13 and if you had enough money no one minded what you did with the stable boy or other children who were hired to work be it sweeping chimneys, in the fields or the house.

c0rk3r

Dudess wrote: »

Well sorry for misinterpreting you.

Not to worry.

indough

Wagon wrote: »

Historically, it's gotten LESS acceptable. The Spartans, the Romans and i think the Greeks, buggered the browns off young boys. Then those boys buggered the brown off young boys when they became men. I can't see it changing to be honest. A pedophile is the worst thing you can be these days.

it was part of samurai culture too

Dudess

Yeah, a man being sexually attracted to six-year-old girls playing hopscotch is one thing, a man who fancies women and then finds himself attracted on a one-off basis to a developed, almost womanly 13-year-old girl (like Lolita) who looks older than her actual age is quite another - and is far more common than we'd like to admit. It's far less sexually deviant than the six-year-old thing.

But I'm not saying it's right for the guy to act on his feelings, obviously.

Rayven199

Thaedydal wrote: »

There was a time when those who were attracted to young girls just married them at the age of 13 and if you had enough money no one minded what you did with the stable boy or other children who were hired to work be it sweeping chimneys, in the fields or the house.

There was a time like that, but generally people died alot younger in those days so marraige at 13 was normal as chances are they would be dead by 50. So with the longevity we enjoy today we remain kids for alot longer

Dudess

Rayven199 wrote: »

Thats very true and I actually wouldnt consider someone who slept with a 13-14 year old a pedophile, it is wrong, but i would call someone a pedophile if they went after someone who was 10 or less. Dont know why I think that way but there ye go.

It's very simple - a 13/14-year-old girl can look like a young woman. She can have an hourglass figure and a shapely arse and thighs. I know I had that shape when I was 14 and I got leering looks from auld fellas.

taidghbaby

unfortunately i cannot see into the future, so i cant give an answer to this!!!

if on the other hand you are asking my opinion on whether or not it should be legal then i would give you an emphatic no!!

ronbyrne2005

ssmith6287 wrote: »

I understand, sorry I thought it was all classed under the same name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia