Should passengers be alllowed off a plane if they smell a rat?

Run_to_da_hills

Reading a horrific story about the recent crash of a MD82 a passenger was concerned about the initial trouble that aircraft had and wanted to get off the plane but was refused by cabin crew. Text messages were exchanged to verify this,

Particularly with banana run airlines that use 20 YO aircraft I think that there should be an option to get off any plain if it has been delayed for over an hour with mechanical trouble.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4582094.ece

FruitLover

They should definitely be allowed off the plane if they smell a snake. We all know how that ends up...

connundrum

God, what a crap thing to have happened. Initially I would say yes, if a passenger is distressed and wants to immediately leave the plane, then they should be allowed do so.

But, what guidelines do you go with? I'd say that everyday, several people who have a fear of flying would get on a planes, and due to the fact that they know they cannot easily get off the plane, they would simply sit still and get on with it.

If we start allowing people to get off when they want, it'd cause untold delays in all airports.

This was surely just a freak accident, and will be put on the shoulders of the airline, who will probably be charged with misconduct, and fined or closed (worst case scenario).

Jesus Wept

If we learn anything from this, it's that bananas should not be allowed to run airlines.
They have had their chance.

staker

There's no rats in the plain, the injuns ate em.

Tipsy Mac

To have this option would cost thousands extra per event as the take off slot would be gone and would need to be reallocated, it will also interupt the schedule. If you are afraid to fly don't, take a boat or car instead.

jester77

staker wrote: »

There's no rats in the plain, the injuns ate em.

I heard the cowboys hid them in blankets!

Run_to_da_hills

One easy way off any such aircraft, just mention the "B" word

ejmaztec

jester77 wrote: »

I heard the cowboys hid them in blankets!

That's the answer plain and simple.

Karoma

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

One easy way off any such aircraft, just mention the "B" word

Banana?

indough

they'd have to take off the passengers baggage then too, the whole thing would take ages

Run_to_da_hills

indough wrote: »

they'd have to take off the passengers baggage then too, the whole thing would take ages

Not if O leary had his way, I.E carry on baggage only.

120_Minutes

there are no rats on plains, as the the rain that falls mainly on them solves the problem (esp in spain)

TheVan

I absolutely crap myself on flights. The fear starts once I'm sitting in my seat, but once the plane has pulled away from the terminal then I know I'm on the flight no matter what.....

The temptation to just get up and leave would be too much if I had the option.

Then again, if the plane had attempted one takeoff and failed and then wanted to try again (as allegedly happened here) then I'd defo try to get off the flight.

flanum

wasnt that in an episode of that chick-comedy friends shiiite? something about yer wan saying there was something wrong with the "ferrangi" or something?

SimpleSam06

Just tell them you have fifteen pounds of cemtex crammed up your sphincter. You'll be off that plane right quick.

hussey

*Cough* Plane ?

MagicMarker

God that must be awful for the person who received the text, only to then look at the news and realize their friend/family member is dead.

If i want to get off a plane, then i would have a bloody good reason, so i think i should be allowed off. If i were on a plane that had to abort a take off i'd be vary tempted to get off, but even then i doubt i would.

I'd like to think that the pilot would choose not to take off if he was in any doubt about the safety of the aircraft.

seamus

Don't know what the rules are on this - I'm sure there are specifc by-laws which permit the captain to force someone to stay put. Otherwise it would be a form of detention or false imprisonment I guess.

I was on a flight once where we were taxiing to the runway (seatbelts on and all) and a woman went running up the aisle, with her hand luggage wheeled behind her.

Half an hour and a trip back to the terminal later, apparently she'd received some bad news and the pilot decided to let her off :rolleyes:

Steve_o

Hang on hang on... There are no rats on the plain only snakes... and neither of them were on the plane...:rolleyes:

But seriously, I'd imagine they'd have to let you outta the plane if you wanted once it doesnt put the craft at risk (like when your in the air and such)...

Black Swan

Ejection seats with parachutes?

Flight attendant: "Captain, we have a passenger that wants to leave the plane."

Captain: "Seat number?"

Flight attendant: "33b."

Captain pushes button. POW! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh POP!

Captain: "Solved! Any other problems?"

Flight attendant: "There's a passenger that's complaining about the peanuts being stale."

Captain: "Seat number?" :eek:

Pompey Magnus

All you got to do is fake a heart attack, easy.

Joe's fanclub

tbh, if I was worried for my safety, ain't no little air steward gonna stop me getting off that plane. Period.

daveharnett

If there is no safety reason preventing a crew from letting a passenger off, then they should let them off. The crew are civilians, they have no right to detain people.

That said, unless the passenger has a VERY good reason for wanting out, I see no problem with the airline charging the passenger for lost revenue and for compensating the other passengers. That would keep most people glued to their seats!

chin_grin

Depends what the "plain" is in question. Is it a plain of land: it's not going anywhere, just walk away. Nothing to see here. A plain-burger? No sauce. Less calories. You won't need to get off that. And there is no way I'm sharing my plain burger with the rest of ye.

m83

I for one welcome our new plain overlords

Joseph Kuhr

No, they should not be allowed to get off. People should have to pass a test to assess if they are scared of flying or not. I used to love flying but a few incidents of passenger panic now have me a bit nervy. Granted one of the incidents there was a problem with the plane mid air and we had to divert :eek:, So a certain level of panic can be acceptable and to be honest most people were just delighted at the free booze and an extra days holiday :-). But there's no need for panic everytime a plane hits bad turbulence. In one incident a woman was screaming and crying and then afterwards I heard her apologising to everyone saying she thought we were all going to die.....for fooking turbulence!!

Another thing a really hate is people clapping when we land....seriously pathetic carry on.

Agent Smith

someone please fix the title of this.

NotMe

I'm on a plain
I can't complain
I'm on a plain
I can't complain

MOH

Why would you want to...? If you smell, or indeed see, a herd of migrating wildebeest, by all means get off the plain ASAP, but don't really think a rat is cause for that? Surely the plain is big enough for the two of you?

Mimikyu

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highlydebased

Whats a plain

Provided of course the aircraft is not about to start the takeoff roll down the runway, there is no reason why not.

FOGOFUNK

MOH wrote: »

Why would you want to...? If you smell, or indeed see, a herd of migrating wildebeest, by all means get off the plain ASAP, but don't really think a rat is cause for that? Surely the plain is big enough for the two of you?

WTF?

Epic Fail

OPENROAD

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd like to think that the pilot would choose not to take off if he was in any doubt about the safety of the aircraft.

+1

One time at Dublin airport we were all set to take off when the pilot aborted, pulled into the side and informed us that a warning light had come up on one of the instruments, 15 mins later we took off ,pilot explained what the warning light was and that it was fine to continue, never thought of getting off as I had every faith in the airline and crew.

jiltloop

the spelling of plane in this thread is plain terrible

I'm sure that plain Jane would be happy to have a passenger ride her!

cooperguy

No they shouldnt be allowed off. By the time they have the bags off and get a new take-off slot the Airline company would have lost thousands of euro and the sane people on the plane would have had their time wasted, could miss connecting flights etc. If the pilot had any doubts about the safety of a plane then he wouldnt fly. Why would he put his own life at risk?

Terry

Agent Smith wrote: »

someone please fix the title of this.

Done.

That's plain unfair!

staker

Like the ejector seat idea.
"nag nag nag waffle waffle waffle"goes the aul bag in the next seat.
BING BONNNNNG
Quiet word with stewardess"i fink the old lady wants to disembark"
WHOOOOOISH
Problem solved!!!

Victor

daveharnett wrote: »

If there is no safety reason preventing a crew from letting a passenger off, then they should let them off.

(a) the passenger's luggage will also have to be taken off. (b) it costs a fortune to cancel the take off.

The crew are civilians, they have no right to detain people.

Not quiet. A captain has complete control of his aircraft and the crew are acting on his orders.

DonJose

As an experienced pilot with over 500 hours flying time* I would tell the passenger, "Text YORE MA, you're staying onboard" followed by evil laugh over intercom.










*not actual real time flying hours but Microsoft Flight Simulator hours. That fukking skyscraper came out of nowhere!!!