'Thanks button' - seemed a good idea at the time?

darkman2

I know the introduction of the whole 'thanks button' thing seemed a good idea to me aswell but I have noted on a couple of occassions, not alot, that sometimes if a poster in a hidden sort of way insults or even openly attacks another poster instead of his/her post you get 'thank you's' sometimes underneath these posts. The logical conclusion being that its a sly and tbh nasty way of joining in in what can only be descibed as bullying without having to actually write anything. It may not seem like much but it is happening - posts discreetly insulting other posters getting thank you's. This way they dont have to write anything.

The vast majority of posters use it sensibly in the vast majority of forums. After hours and Thunderdrome are the exceptions but ive only noticed it once or twice admittedly and only in those two forums. However its something I can see catching on. I dont check many threads but im sure its happening far more then ive noticed. Seems kinda logical that it would.

On the whole the 'thank you' button is good IMO but maybe more awareness about that might be good on certain forums. It has it flaws.

Dudess

Yeah, it's a sign of a really sad, pathetic person if they thank someone for posting snide comments or flat-out personal abuse, but that's their problem.

Steve

I think the thanks system wins a whole lot more than it fails - it's a feel good thing.
I see your point though, in any system, there will be assholes that abuse it.

Afaik, there's no thanks in TTD and never has been.

darkman2

SteveC wrote: »

Afaik, there's no thanks in TTD and never has been.

Thought it was the Thunderdrome. Must be another forum im thinking of.

Adam

I'm confused...so you've noticed one or two occurrences of abuse of the system, but for the most part it's good. So are you saying get rid of it?

darkman2

OMG ROFLcakes! wrote: »

I'm confused...so you've noticed one or two occurrences of abuse of the system, but for the most part it's good. So are you saying get rid of it?

No I like it but maybe on certain forums like AH. It was not on AH at the start IIRC.

Adam

darkman2 wrote: »

No I like it but maybe on certain forums like AH. It was not on AH at the start IIRC.

Correct, it was not because it was being abused and was disabled. But then a '10 thanks per day' limit was implemented and it was reinstated in AH.

It does get used in the manner you've described to a degree, I'd be guilty of it in a sense, if someone gets in a cheeky dig that makes me laugh I'll thank it the odd time, but not if it's literally personal abuse.

But for the most part, it's used for the better, and with the 10 per day limit it can't get out of hand really anyway.

Dudess

I thought it would be really bad on AH but I was dead, dead wrong. The thanking of snide, nasty remarks seems to occur most regularly on this very forum.

Steve

OMG ROFLcakes! wrote: »

But for the most part, it's used for the better, and with the 10 per day limit it can't get out of hand really anyway.

Apart from when mantime discovered it....

I agree though, it seems to work well at and with rationing, you actully have to be selective about how you use it....

...which leads to another dilemma - should the 'remove thanks' feature be time limited, I've been tempted to use it on occasion when I'm out of thanks and see a post that deserves it more - never actually done it though as I'd feel like i was insulting the guy I thanked in the first place...

Adam

SteveC wrote: »

Apart from when mantime discovered it....

I agree though, it seems to work well at and with rationing, you actully have to be selective about how you use it....

...which leads to another dilemma - should the 'remove thanks' feature be time limited, I've been tempted to use it on occasion when I'm out of thanks and see a post that deserves it more - never actually done it though as I'd feel like i was insulting the guy I thanked in the first place...

Tbh I think you're worrying too much, it's just a handy feature, I don't think anyone's going to cry over it

Steve

OMG ROFLcakes! wrote: »

I don't think anyone's going to cry over it

heheh not me anyway...

I'm watching this space for a feedback thread on it though - it's bound to happen..:D

422nd

darkman2.... *sighs*

Why am I not surprised to find myself having yet another issue with you?
You know what I spent all my 'thanks' on tonight?

Supporting insults, or bullying as you put it.

How about you use your thanks as you see fit and everyone else will do likewise. There are no rules on how the thanks button is to be used, and no one is gonna start getting banned over thanking some one for insulting some one else, so zip it!

EDIT: *Awaits some thanks*

darkman2

422nd wrote: »

Supporting insults, or bullying as you put it.

Not the brightest thing to admit in feedback id have thought.:pac:

Adam

darkman2 wrote: »

Not the brightest thing to admit in feedback id have thought.:pac:

I expected some thanks for being helpful, I don't know what else you're waiting to use your thanks on :P

422nd

darkman2 wrote: »

Not the brightest thing to admit in feedback id have thought.:pac:

randylonghorn

"Thanks" has caused surprisingly few problems imo, considering that some prophets predicted the end of Boards as we know it when it was introduced.

Personally, I have come to like it, and I think it has slightly reduced the number of "+1" posts, even if that might not have been intended as its primary purpose.

Xavi6

randylonghorn wrote: »

Personally, I have come to like it, and I think it has slightly reduced the number of "+1" posts, even if that might not have been intended as its primary purpose.

+1

randylonghorn

Xavi6 wrote: »

+1

You only wish you had +1

arybvtcw0eolkf

darkman2 wrote: »

I know the introduction of the whole 'thanks button' thing seemed a good idea to me aswell but I have noted on a couple of occassions, not alot, that sometimes if a poster in a hidden sort of way insults or even openly attacks another poster instead of his/her post you get 'thank you's' sometimes underneath these posts. The logical conclusion being that its a sly and tbh nasty way of joining in in what can only be descibed as bullying without having to actually write anything. It may not seem like much but it is happening - posts discreetly insulting other posters getting thank you's. This way they dont have to write anything.

The vast majority of posters use it sensibly in the vast majority of forums. After hours and Thunderdrome are the exceptions but ive only noticed it once or twice admittedly and only in those two forums. However its something I can see catching on. I dont check many threads but im sure its happening far more then ive noticed. Seems kinda logical that it would.

On the whole the 'thank you' button is good IMO but maybe more awareness about that might be good on certain forums. It has it flaws.

Maybe your looking at 'thanks' given for funny things said during an argument.

One that comes to mind is the recent Dudess ~V~ Degsy death match, it was hilarious and I thanked both for their entertainment value.

But that was AH, and you'd be a very silly person to take anything posted there too serious.

Off AH I think it encourages people to be more helpful and courteous.

Overall I think its a good thing, it has its flaws but what doesn't?.

Black_Knight

randylonghorn wrote: »

You only wish you had +1

Perhaps a +1 button is in order! I need one of these in the real world too:o

Dudess

422nd wrote: »

darkman2.... *sighs*

Why am I not surprised to find myself having yet another issue with you?
You know what I spent all my 'thanks' on tonight?

Supporting insults, or bullying as you put it.

How about you use your thanks as you see fit and everyone else will do likewise. There are no rules on how the thanks button is to be used, and no one is gonna start getting banned over thanking some one for insulting some one else, so zip it!

EDIT: *Awaits some thanks*

Oh if the poster getting the digs well and truly asks for it, it's a different matter, but I've seen threads with very mean-spirited, undeserved, personal crap (often based on gripes between posters) where it occurs. It actually looks terrible seeing a thank you at the bottom of a nasty comment.

Epic Tissue

Black_Knight wrote: »

Perhaps a +1 button is in order! I need one of these in the real world too:o

Yeah they should replace "thanks" with "+1":cool:

Dinter

I post mostly from work so if I see a post that breaks the monotony of being in this horrible, souless office for 5 seconds I'll thank it whether it's amusing, informative or a bit mean etc.

I kind of see it playing the same role as laughing during a conversation.

Black_Knight

Dinter wrote: »

I post mostly from work so if I see a post that breaks the monotony of being in this horrible, souless office for 5 seconds I'll thank it whether it's amusing, informative or a bit mean etc.

I kind of see it playing the same role as laughing during a conversation.

Wheres my +1 button now!
This is so true. Anything to take me from the drab of office work! I too use as a sign of appreciation to a humourous post, if a post amuses me, I thank that person for brightening my day.

Dinter

Now that thanks are limited to 10 a day I don't see the problem with using them wherever you like. It speeds up the flow of a thread and with only 10 each it can hardly be abused.

Not having access to thanks just means people will thank in thread.

Dragan

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah, it's a sign of a really sad, pathetic person if they thank someone for posting snide comments or flat-out personal abuse, but that's their problem.

Bingo, if you want to call some a **** then have the nuts to do so i say.

Hiding behind the thanks button is basically acting like the little morons who would try and stay on the big bullies good side in primary school.

Although, i don't see too much of it going on to be honest.

OP ,

It really isn't that big a deal. Ok I've noticed it happen but really who cares. How about you use your thanks for the posts you want and everyone else can do the same.

Life sucks, get a ****ing helmet! Why are people so sensitive!? I blame the fecking Greeks

Dragan

Deleted User wrote: »

I blame the fecking Greeks

All about the tragedy!!

Boston

It seemed like a retarded idea to me when it first came in, and I said as much. However its been managed successfully by the powers that be, and my concerned have been shown to be unwarranted. I now find myself using thanks when I really agree with a post.

Adam

Boston wrote: »

It seemed like a retarded idea to me when it first came in, and I said as much. However its been managed successfully by the powers that be, and my concerned have been shown to be unwarranted. I now find myself using thanks when I really agree with a post.

2+2=4

OMG ROFLcakes!

OMG ROFLcakes! wrote: »

2+2=4

****ing liar! Ban ? :pac:

Adam

Deleted User wrote: »

****ing liar! Ban ? :pac:

All your thanks are belong to me nao!

Fajitas!

The benefit of the thanks underneath snide posts etc, is that you can quite clearly make out the shy, hiding in the shadows **** from the good guys.

Dudess

I know I've referenced this post a few times in relation to this very topic but I just love it
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56800615&postcount=75

Sam Vimes

darkman2 wrote: »

t may not seem like much but it is happening - posts discreetly insulting other posters getting thank you's. This way they dont have to write anything.

and if thanks was removed they'd just post +1 or "i agree" or something similar. the thanks button just makes it very very slightly easier to support an insult

Gelio

I was going to put in a snide comment about the utter stupidity of this thread and probably get banned. But instead I won't.

Might be worth it for the thanks though

P.S. Darkman2 do you have to complain about eerything?

Bob the Builder

Fajitas! wrote: »

The benefit of the thanks underneath snide posts etc, is that you can quite clearly make out the shy, hiding in the shadows **** from the good guys.

I agree with you Mr. Fajitas.

ajeffares wrote: »

I was going to put in a snide comment about the utter stupidity of this thread and probably get banned. But instead I won't.

Might be worth it for the thanks though

P.S. Darkman2 do you have to complain about eerything?

I see what you did there. You insulted the OP by saying you weren't going to post about the stupidity of this thread. Sly. Very sly.

Adam

I thanked ajaffares but it seems now I have to post to justify this or I'll be acused of hiding behind the thanks button...

Sparky

I love being excluded from thanks

Then you have to post to thank me!

Gelio

nevf wrote: »

I see what you did there. You insulted the OP by saying you weren't going to post about the stupidity of this thread. Sly. Very sly.

At least its original . . .:D

The Wrath of CuLT wrote: »

I thanked ajaffares but it seems now I have to post to justify this or I'll be acused of hiding behind the thanks button...

me to

nesf

Fajitas! wrote: »

The benefit of the thanks underneath snide posts etc, is that you can quite clearly make out the shy, hiding in the shadows **** from the good guys.

Eh, surely the hide in the shadows **** are the ones who make snide comments out of public view and not the ones who publicly show agreement with a snide post using the thanks system? If thanks was private I'd agree completely with you, it'd allow people to anonymously "+1" digs at people without having to stand by it publicly but the present system doesn't allow that kind of abuse.

Dragan

Spankeh wrote: »

I love being excluded from thanks

Then you have to post to thank me!

Why anyone would thank you is beyond me. :pac:

Bob the Builder

The Wrath of CuLT wrote: »

I thanked ajaffares but it seems now I have to post to justify this or I'll be acused of hiding behind the thanks button...

You look more pathetic now because you are now standing in front of the thanks button, and therefore yo' fat ass is in the way.

/Grabs coat... mutters end of post and walks away..

ajeffares wrote: »

At least its original . . .:D

Suppose. I'm not going to tell you about the stupidity of it though, because then I'd get banned. :pac:

Sparky

Dragan wrote: »

Why anyone would thank you is beyond me. :pac:

:pac::pac:

arybvtcw0eolkf

Fajitas! wrote: »

The benefit of the thanks underneath snide posts etc, is that you can quite clearly make out the shy, hiding in the shadows **** from the good guys.

I do it all the time, people who meet me wouldn't decribe me as a wanker.

Normally they'd wait until I'm out of hearing range, or do it from the safety of the internet.

Mairt

Mairt wrote: »

I do it all the time, people who meet me wouldn't decribe me as a wanker.

Normally they'd wait until I'm out of hearing range, or do it from the safety of the internet.

hahah, gotta love the big fella!

AckwelFoley

Mairt wrote: »

I do it all the time, people who meet me wouldn't decribe me as a wanker.

Normally they'd wait until I'm out of hearing range, or do it from the safety of the internet.

Wanker wanker wanker.

Il be outside your Ma's at noon.

:pac:

I'l bring my Judo chop





Anyhow. I thnk the Thanks button is a decent idea and gets rid of the +1 posts

WhiteWashMan

you know, i had a whole ramble about how the 'thanks' button is only a tool, and the problem which you refer to is really down to individuals.
its like blaming a shovel for a whol being dug.

but then i thought to myself, some people just like to complain.

dudess wrote:

Oh if the poster getting the digs well and truly asks for it, it's a different matter, but I've seen threads with very mean-spirited, undeserved, personal crap (often based on gripes between posters) where it occurs. It actually looks terrible seeing a thank you at the bottom of a nasty comment.

so, what youre actually saying that saying a thanks at the bottom of a post which you feel is an insult (but may not be, lets face it, you have shown that you are quite capable of misreading a situation), then its a disgrace.

however, if you feel that the insult is ok, then its ok to thank it.

so the thanking of insults is actually down to your own personal subjective insult measurometer?



personal vendettas aside, does anyone really have a problem with abutton? i would have thought not.

personally, im delighted to be vindicated with the popularity of it in AH and the fact that it has reduced the amount of +1 posts.

it would appear I know what im doing after all...

Steve

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

it would appear I know what im doing after all...

You have your moments WWM.

Dudess

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

lets face it, you have shown that you are quite capable of misreading a situation

Cheers for that.

however, if you feel that the insult is ok, then its ok to thank it.

so the thanking of insults is actually down to your own personal subjective insult measurometer?

Meh, I think there is a difference between the thanking of some trolling abusive individual getting a dig thrown at them (e.g. this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055363927) and the thanking of snide remarks directed at people who don't deserve them and which are based on personal gripes. It's not at all a case of "personal vendettas". But that's just my opinion. Let's agree to disagree?
By the same token, I see what you're saying too about insults being insults no matter what the context - sometimes people who get an insult thrown at them here kinda ask for it tbh but that doesn't mean whoever personally abused them doesn't deserve to be reprimanded.

personally, im delighted to be vindicated with the popularity of it in AH and the fact that it has reduced the amount of +1 posts.

it would appear I know what im doing after all...

Um... congrats? I don't think anyone was doubting it would be popular in AH btw...

But like you said, it IS only a button and while the OP's concern is something I have also noticed, it's not exactly worth losing sleep over either...

I like the thanks button and as I said earlier in this thread, if people are gonna use it to be snide, that's their problem.

darkman2

ajeffares wrote: »

P.S. Darkman2 do you have to complain about eerything?

'Everything'? - Yes - yes I do. The world is broke and I gotta fix it:P