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irish or english fry up?

  • 19-08-2008 7:09am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭


    im confused now, the lads in the office were asking me what an irish breakfast was, so. i tell them, i google image it. the whole shabang comes up. they say thats a typical BRITISH breakfast, I say NO, STFU and GTFO! but then i google "typical british breakfast" and get the same thing...

    so.... ya, back me up here. did those limeies steal our breakfast or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    same thing but we have black pudding ... according to my local cafe that does Irish and english breakfast

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast#Full_English_breakfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    hussey wrote: »
    same thing but we have black pudding ... according to my local cafe that does Irish and english breakfast

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast#Full_English_breakfast

    THATS IT...ALL WE HAVE EXTRA IS BLACK PUDDING!!!!...ARE YOU SERIOUS???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Doesnt the English have fried bread/french toast but the Irish doesn't. That plus the pudding thing mentioned above.

    Guess not according to the link.

    Its all going to vary depending on where you go for one in both countries though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Feckin hate black pudding. If that's the difference then English breakfast ftw.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 202 ✭✭Go-Go-Gadget


    Black pudding is taken from the scottish fry up, irish fry up is usually unique in being accompanied by white pudding and traditionally soda bread. English breakfast has baked beans and fried bread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭captainzapp


    I'm so hungry now. Damnit. I'd go for the black pudding over fried bread.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    They both contain those inedible excuses for sausages and thereby fail. Irish black pudding is fairly poor too, but dammit I'd love a feed of rashers right about now.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Black pudding is taken from the scottish fry up, irish fry up is usually unique in being accompanied by white pudding and traditionally soda bread. English breakfast has baked beans and fried bread.

    Damn, they've won this war too. The hashbrown rising had them worried for a while, but damn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    full-Irish-breakfast.jpg

    mmmmmmmmmm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    so wait now.... an irish, a british, and a scotish fry up are BASICALLY the same..... fail


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Black pudding is enough to push it over the top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Doesn't beat an Ulster Fry................mmmmmm fried potato bread. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Doesn't beat an Ulster Fry................mmmmmm fried potato bread. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    But isn't the Ulster fry just part of the English fry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    weirdos.

    pudding rocks.

    wonder will I get a fry in the canteen this morning...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    But isn't the Ulster fry just part of the English fry?

    :D <drops 9 foot pole and just walks out of the room, taking the last bit of potato bread with me>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    I thought we have small sausages and the british ones are bigger... I dont care, its Irish and thats all that matters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭minxie


    yeah "irish breakfast"" all the way...:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    White Pudding and Soda bread aside, the difference between an Irish breakfast and an English breakfast is the same as teh difference between Irish Tea and English tea.

    Basically it's English ok, but if it was called an Englsih breakfast (or English Tea) no one in Ireland would eat it.

    Simple as.

    Also known as the "Glasgow Salad" I love that one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_breakfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    you havn't lived until you've seen a lorne sausage and gone "What the fuck"?

    Scotland is in a universe all it's own where nothing makes sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    you havn't lived until you've seen a lorne sausage and gone "What the fuck"?

    Scotland is in a universe all it's own where nothing makes sense.

    particularly the people {inserts picture of Rab C. Nesbit} :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭lynchie


    you havn't lived until you've seen a lorne sausage and gone "What the fuck"?

    Scotland is in a universe all it's own where nothing makes sense.

    Square sausage ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    The wiki link has all the answers you need. In Ireland we get black & white pudding, in England you can get black or sometimes none. Baked beans are almost always included in an English breakfast and while available in Ireland, wouldn't have been included in the traditional Irish fry.

    Silenceisbliss, have you really never had a fry-up in England ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    lynchie wrote: »
    Square sausage ;)

    This is madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    You'll often find black pudding in breakfasts in the North of England too, except up there it's better (not so much cereal crap as you get in it here and more blood :).

    That scottish "square sausage" stuff is rank


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Kablam


    Try this one on for size "milkygravy", you basically pour a drop of milk into the pan when you're finished all the frying, heat it, lash in load's of salt and pepper then pour it over your full irish. Not a big fan myself but the father swears by it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Kablam wrote: »
    Try this one on for size "milkygravy", you basically pour a drop of milk into the pan when you're finished all the frying, heat it, lash in load's of salt and pepper then pour it over your full irish. Not a big fan myself but the father swears by it.

    A well knwon cure for heart disease :eek:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Milkgravey sounds like something worth trying :)

    Oh, and mushrooms, I forgot mushrooms in the Full English.


    The first time I had an English breakfast was in 1988 when my dad took me to London for an Amiga computer show in Crystal Palace. It was my first time having beans and mushrooms with my fry (eggs/sausage/bacon) and when I asked for sauce they gave me BROWN sauce (Daddies) which until then I had never imagined was possible to put on a sausage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Kablam


    A well knwon cure for heart disease :eek:

    put's hairs on the soles of your feet:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Black pudding is taken from the scottish fry up, irish fry up is usually unique in being accompanied by white pudding and traditionally soda bread. English breakfast has baked beans and fried bread.

    Yup! I can't stand getting baked beans with my fry up - that's when it becomes a dinner rather than a breakfast!

    Also, English sausages are rank, even the tesco finest one with Apple in them, Irish sausages ftw!

    Black and White pudding ftw, Irish breakfast ftw.

    FTW I say, FTW!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Its only a "proper" fry as long as it has the core ingredients... Sausages, Rashers, Black & White pudding, Eggs, Mushrooms, fried tomato, hashbrowns, toast and a roastin hot mug of tea!

    oh and a slice of soda bread with jam afterward....


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    r3nu4l, get yourself down to London for the finest sausages in the world at Biggles (by Bond street). http://www.ebiggles.co.uk/range.asp

    Irish sausages taste different to English 'cos they are both made from different crap.

    Saying that Irish sausages are tasty can get you a ban in the Cooking forum :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    Also, English sausages are rank, even the tesco finest one with Apple in them, Irish sausages ftw!

    How can you say that. Irish sausages are awful things. I regularly bring sausages over and freeze then because the ones the supermarkets sell here are so bad. Dunnes finest ones aren't too bad but the Tesco finest ones are nothinglike the sausages you would get in Tescos in England.

    As for Denny gold label sausages, my arse :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭missmatty


    Had square sausage in Edinburgh a few months ago. It is indeed very odd :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    How can you say that. Irish sausages are awful things. I regularly bring sausages over and freeze then because the ones the supermarkets sell here are so bad. Dunnes finest ones aren't too bad but the Tesco finest ones are nothinglike the sausages you would get in Tescos in England.

    As for Denny gold label sausages, my arse :mad:

    well your first problem is buying them in the supermarket,support your local butcher and shop there.Oh and fried soda bread with the brekkie is teh best thing evor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    In terms of supermarket sausages, Superquinn are actually very decent - as well as their burgers which are dirt cheap. If you live outside of Dublin/Cork/Limerick/Galway city anyway you should be able to track down 'proper' sausages.

    Also, did no one pick up on the 'Welsh' Breakfast? Poor bastids...
    The traditional Welsh breakfast include laverbread, a seaweed purée which is mixed with oatmeal, which is formed into patties and fried in bacon fat. Cockles are also often eaten


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Rashers, sausages, eggs, black and white pudding, tea and toast, maybe with a few beans. That is the finest breakfast. Mushrooms are evil, and tomatoes have no business near a fryup. Fruit on a breakfast, why the hell would you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    well your first problem is buying them in the supermarket,support your local butcher and shop there.Oh and fried soda bread with the brekkie is teh best thing evor.

    I totally agree, unfortunately i tend to shop on sundays or late at night though. mind you, I do get a few sausages from Hicks in Dun Laogahire whenever I can. They do some great stuff in there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 290 ✭✭Tak3n


    Full English has everything the irish has with the addition of baked beans and chips and possibly fried bread although u rarely get it :)


    English breakfast > irish breakfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    no, ya need beans in a fry-up IMO.

    my fry consists of:
    eggs, rashers, sausages, hashbrowns, tomatoes, muchrooms, beans, one of each pudding, toast, and a glass of OJ. YUMMERS!!!!

    Now thats a mighty HORSE of a feed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭here.from.day.1


    I'm so hungry now. Damnit. I'd go for the black pudding over fried bread.

    Me too :(. Wish I hadnt read this, its 3 hours to lunch and I was to late to get ANY breakfast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    5starpool wrote: »
    tomatoes have no business near a fryup. Fruit on a breakfast, why the hell would you?

    YES THEY DO!!! tomatoes give that nice succulence to the whole thing, else the plate is a bit too dry. TOMATOES FTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭CtrlSource


    Tak3n wrote: »
    Full English has everything the irish has with the addition of baked beans and chips and possibly fried bread although u rarely get it :)


    English breakfast > irish breakfast

    That's my impression of the difference too. In England i remember you'd often get a second egg as standard. Here you have to ask for it. But chips?

    Remember the all day breakfasts in Bewleys (when Bewleys was Bewleys)? Those sausages were terrible, but i always had at least 3 of them!

    i love some black puddings, the ones with plenty of stuff in them and not just the blood sausage type. Clonakilty or Shaws FTW!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    YES THEY DO!!! tomatoes give that nice succulence to the whole thing, else the plate is a bit too dry. TOMATOES FTW

    You have been brainwashed by the tomato munching brigade. I'll pray to the god of breakfast (Pigthor is his name) for you to see the light.

    Help him Pigthor!!!! Banish the evil tomaotes. He will be putting garnish on the fryup next.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Proper fry

    Sausages(Cumberland for english)

    Eggs (fried/scrambled/poached)

    Rashers

    Toast

    Tea

    after that its up to you

    Beans,pudding,fried potatoes,waffles,chips,fried tomato,mushrooms,spice burger and pancakes for our american cousins.

    Im starving now:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    You can't get a good breakfast in England that's the difference. They have horrible grey sausages, and black pud that looks and tastes like fried play do. You can't get good rashers anywhere any more (eating out I mean) and their tea is piss poor.

    The best way to enjoy a fry is at home where you can get proper ingredients.

    Sausages, Black & White pud (that's crumbles apart), big thick rashers, shrooms, fried onion, hash browns (or some form of potato) maybe a little beans, NO CHICKEN PERIODS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭B00MSTICK


    Now look what you made me do! *puts sausages on*

    Ideal fry:
    Eggs (whatever way you fancy, but it is a fry, so fried is the obvious choice)
    Sausages (Rudds if you can get them)
    B&W Pudding (Clonakilty)
    Rashers (Hickory smoked a fave atm)
    Tomato, if you're making a sambo or for mopping up with toast purpose
    Hash browns/fried potato
    Scoop of beans
    Toast with lashings of butter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    B00MSTICK wrote: »
    Now look what you made me do! *puts sausages on*

    Ideal fry:
    Eggs (whatever way you fancy, but it is a fry, so fried is the obvious choice)
    Sausages (Rudds if you can get them)
    B&W Pudding (Clonakilty)
    Rashers (Hickory smoked a fave atm)
    Tomato, if you're making a sambo or for mopping up with toast purpose
    Hash browns/fried potato
    Scoop of beans
    Toast with lashings of butter

    And a mug of tea of course!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    5starpool wrote: »

    Help him Pigthor!!!! Banish the evil tomaotes. He will be putting garnish on the fryup next.

    whats this "garnish" you speak of?.....*consults wiki*....mmmmmmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    All this talk about brekkie makes me hungry! :(

    Ah is it just me or is breakfast cheaper in the UK than in Ireland? Like Irish brekkie all the way but they set you back 14.50 :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    B00MSTICK wrote: »
    Now look what you made me do! *puts sausages on*


    Toast with lashings of butter



    ha ha, this thread is driving everyoone to the fridge! lol

    and yes, LASHINGS of butter, very important IMO

    MIN2511 wrote: »
    All this talk about brekkie makes me hungry! :(

    Ah is it just me or is breakfast cheaper in the UK than in Ireland? Like Irish brekkie all the way but they set you back 14.50 :O

    ITS THE RECESSION I TELLS YA! gotta be careful with me "LASHINGS of butter" should i be subject to the butter tax.

    but, ya...ireland is just more expensive for everything....didnt you realise that!


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