Paying to use music on a spoken word release

Sham Squire

Just wondering if anyone has any experience of using someones music on a CD you were releasing? For example, if your doing a spoken word CD and the people putting the CD together want to use someones music in the background what's the standard payment for that? I'm assuming it's different rates depending on the level of the artist but for someone small like a local harp player or the like what do you pay them?
Any info appreciated.

PaulBrewer

Sham Squire wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone has any experience of using someones music on a CD you were releasing? For example, if your doing a spoken word CD and the people putting the CD together want to use someones music in the background what's the standard payment for that? I'm assuming it's different rates depending on the level of the artist but for someone small like a local harp player or the like what do you pay them?
Any info appreciated.

I'm sure someone with expertise in this area will post soon....

However technically there are two elements to this, a performance royalty, for the performer, and copyright royalty, for the composer.

Neurojazz

Talk to the publisher of the music/cd. I believe they hold the rights so best speak to them first and see what they say.

squibs

Interested in this myself, and still trying to understand the creative commons license.

Sham Squire

As far as I understand it, the creative commons agreement means you grant permission for anyone to use your work or sample from it once they pay the standard fee in your region. I think it just means they don't have to track you down to ask can they sample or use your stuff, your automatically saying yes but you still get paid.
I am prepared to be corrected on this though. I have the issue of TapeOp with the article but I'd have to go dig it out to check.

tweeky

You will need to talk to the Record Company as well, as they will own the rights to the recorded performance. You will in effect be licensing the track.

The Publisher will have to be informed as well in relation to the text of the spoken word as the artist/publisher will have an opinion on whether or not they want their work associated with yours. There is a royalty that will have be paid on airplay and a mechanical royalty on every CD manufactured .

Info on this is available from IMRO,MCPS and the PPI.

http://www.imro.ie
http://www.ppiltd.com/

Sham Squire

It's an independedt artist who is not signed to a record company or a publishing house. Do you reckon it might be comparable to a session musicians buy out? And what's the going rate for that? I will obviously be asking the artist what they want at the end of the day but I'd like some kind of guideline before entering into discussions about fees.

raindog.promo

Sham Squire wrote: »

As far as I understand it, the creative commons agreement means you grant permission for anyone to use your work or sample from it once they pay the standard fee in your region. I think it just means they don't have to track you down to ask can they sample or use your stuff, your automatically saying yes but you still get paid.
I am prepared to be corrected on this though. I have the issue of TapeOp with the article but I'd have to go dig it out to check.

From what I understand, there is no fees involved. Pieces of music with a creative commons license can be used / sampled for any other piece of work as long as it is mentioned where the original sample came from and by whom it was created. Also the piece of work you create using a creative commons license, must also have a creative commons license (i.e. other people can then sample the new piece of work under the same rules)

Sham Squire

That's waaay better than what I said. Nice 1 for clearing that up.

squibs

From what I understand, there is no fees involved. Pieces of music with a creative commons license can be used / sampled for any other piece of work as long as it is mentioned where the original sample came from and by whom it was created. Also the piece of work you create using a creative commons license, must also have a creative commons license (i.e. other people can then sample the new piece of work under the same rules)

That sounds about right, although I think you are talking about the by-sa agreement, and there are many other types of agreement with different levels of protection.

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