Jews in Dublin ?

Ang3lus

Hello all,

I'm from Israel and i might be coming to visit Ireland in Feburary, i don't know why it has been fascinating me for the past few years but i intend to find out.
During my stay i would like to find work, i don't have a degree or anything, i'm just an electronics salesmen, but i'm willing to do pretty much anything considering it's only for 4-5 months or so.

do you guys know about the jewish community in Ireland ?
how do they accept jews from other places ?
do they have places to live there ? (what's the rent per month approx ?)
is there any job i can get there considering i'm an outsider ?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Basically there's a tiny Jewish community in Dublin, a google search is your best option for making contacts.

I'm not sure about work for people travelling from Israel, I know when friends of mine from Israel enquired they found it very difficult getting work.

JEWISH IRELAND

Ang3lus

Thanks,

I got an EU passport, so that qualifies as a work permit right ?
Will that help me get a job do you think ?

Sincerely,
Ariel

biko

EU passport from what country? But yes, as EU citizen you can work in Ireland. You will have to compete with all the other EU citizens here though.

Try looking for work before coming over, so you know what the market is like
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=jobs+ireland

WindSock

Are you looking for Catholic Jews or Protestant Jews?

biko

With a user like Angelus I though it'd be clear?

arybvtcw0eolkf

WindSock wrote: »

Are you looking for Catholic Jews or Protestant Jews?

That joke will be lost on an Israeli coming over here.

Ariel I take it your considering coming to Dublin, if so drop me a PM when your coming and I'll try help you out further.

What part of Israel are you from?.

If your from the north the weather here will probably be better in Febuary than in the Galilee, the food won't be as good and the women - well I'll leave that for you to discover yourself!.

Ang3lus

i'm from the centre

I live in Rehovot
it's a 20 mins drive from Tel-aviv

I LIKE cold weather, it's very hot here during the summer, can reach 30c+ a lot of the times, i'm sitting in a room now with the air conditioner @ 20c

and you were right, i didn't get the joke :rolleyes:

I have German Citizenship btw

thanks Mairt

latenia

Earlier this year I helped a man from Tel Aviv find an old colleague he hadn't seen in 30 years by contacting the Jewish museum. Luckily the guy was a Hebrew and Talmud teacher so he was pretty well known in the community. The number of Jews here is way down from its peak around 1900, mainly due to the lack of marriage opportunities causing young people to go to Israel or the UK.

There is no real geographical quarter any more apart from the suburbs of Terenure and Rathgar where there's an Orthodox synagogue and a multi-denominational school which was originally founded by Jews. An area called Portobello closer to the city centre would have been the main Jewish quarter in the past and there's still a very well known Kosher bakery there called the Bretzel Bakery; you can still see the occasional Mezuzah over doors if you walk around.

estebancambias

my grandmother was a russian jew who married a plain old russian.

the jewish community used to be *not large* but in Dublin there was about 5,000 jews who then emmigrated to UK and US.

The Quakers were Jewish I think.

latenia

estebancambias wrote: »

The Quakers were Jewish I think.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Ang3lus wrote: »

and you were right, i didn't get the joke :rolleyes:

Oh it wasn't an offensive joke, its an old one from the 'war in Northern Ireland. It goes something like....

A gunman walks up to a guy in Belfast and puts a gun to his head. Before pulling the trigger the gunman asks ''Are you a Catholic or a Protestant?"... The man thinks quickly to himself and says "I'm Jewish" (thinking that saves his life) "Are you a Catholic or a Protestant Jew?" asks the gunman

Well if you like cold weather your gonna love Ireland

Oh, our beer is much better than that Maccabe or Gold Star sh*t you have there

estebancambias

estebancambias wrote: »

my grandmother was a russian jew who married a plain old russian.

the jewish community used to be *not large* but in Dublin there was about 5,000 jews who then emmigrated to UK and US.

The Quakers were Jewish I think.

Quakers are protestants.

Ang3lus

gold star ? beer ?

i always thought it's a piss sample

we only have guiness here actually, but i drink heineken occasionally

i can't wait till feburary

arybvtcw0eolkf

Ang3lus wrote: »

gold star ? beer ?

i always thought it's a piss sample

we only have guiness here actually, but i drink heineken occasionally

i can't wait till feburary

I've drank your Guinness, its terrible!.

I drank in Mikes Place (Tel Aviv) and had just returned to Ireland when it was hit by a suicide bomber :mad:

biko

Mmmm, the falafels in Ashkelon yum yum
Btw, Gold Star is better than Maccabee beer

Ang3lus

lol
i woulden't go near .il made beers
never have, never will
mike's place is still going strong
even after the bombing, that was way back when right ? 2002 or something ?

and shawarma > falafel

arybvtcw0eolkf

Dammit I wanna go back to Israel now

Absolutely the best place I've ever been to.

Ang3lus

It really went downhill

paycheck are way low, taxes are way high, people are grumpy cause of it, state of the government is BAD, prime minister under investigation.

there must be a god, cause it's ONE HUGE MIRACLE we are still standing.

boneless

If you give me a PM when you get here we can arrange for a couple of history types I know to give you a tour of the old Jewish quarters of Dublin. I grew up in and around Clanbrassil Street. Even in m youth I remember two Kosher butchers operating there. It was known locally as "Little Jerusalem" and had three Temples that I can remember. There was even a delicatessan where you could buy the best pickles I ever tasted .

arybvtcw0eolkf

boneless wrote: »

If you give me a PM when you get here we can arrange for a couple of history types I know to give you a tour of the old Jewish quarters of Dublin. I grew up in and around Clanbrassil Street. Even in m youth I remember two Kosher butchers operating there. It was known locally as "Little Jerusalem" and had three Temples that I can remember. There was even a delicatessan where you could buy the best pickles I ever tasted .

There was a recent walking tour of 'Little Jerusalem' recently which I missed.

Do you know anything about it, and if there's another planned for anytime soon?.

boneless

I heard about it after the event. I know the Heritage Service are conducting a survey in the area, so watch this space... I may be giving a tour myself ! I'll PM you if it happens. But join us on one of the informal ones by all means.

Myself and some some post medieval archaeologists are known to have wee walks around the city followed by pints in a decent pub or two!!

humberklog

Don't like goldstar?Lo? Ma pi ton! Crate of Goldstar and a pack of noblesse and it's happy out.
Ang work has dried up a bit here but there are still many options if one's not fussy and, like you, not degree educated in a specific field. Accommodation sharing is do-able but probably outta question on a lower salary to get a half decent place for yourself.
There has been a growing Israeli population in last few years. I know there are quite a few in Google and've even come across a few engineers like myself in construction.
Be prepared for every Irish person to think it's fully within thier right to give every Israeli an ear-bashing about palestinians. It's painful. Not aggressive just a pain in the hole.
The weed here doesn't come close either. Bring Gortex and forget any notion of keeping kosher. Good place though.

Ang3lus

would spending 1100 euros every month would be suffice living in Ireland ?

KTRIC

Ang3lus wrote: »

would spending 1100 euros every month would be suffice living in Ireland ?

Try doubling that and you'll get by in Dublin.

Ang3lus

hehe, whoa

so a minimum wage job isn't enough for anything i suppose?

Gaspode

Ang3lus wrote: »

hehe, whoa

so a minimum wage job isn't enough for anything i suppose?

You'd need 2 minimum wage jobs to get by over here!!

Best wishes with the move, and welcome.

Wishbone Ash

Mairt wrote: »

Basically there's a tiny Jewish community in Dublin

Although small, they are quite powerful and influential in comparison to their numbers. It's not so long since we had 3 Jewish TDs* in the Dail**.

(Ang3lus - *TD = Irish Member of Parliament
**Dail = Irish Parliament)

Ang3lus

so it's like Israel then
dublin is just a bit above Tel Aviv in prices, most .il is in TA prices right now, you'd need 2 minimum wage salaries to get by.

but if i'd get a studio one bedroom apartment and a minimum wage job, shoulden't that be enough ?

Nevyn

Have a look at what a one room will cost you a month.

http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?s%5Bcc_id%5D=ct1&s%5Ba_id%5D=ga1&s%5Bmnp%5D=&s%5Bmxp%5D=&s%5Bbd_no%5D=0&refine=Refine&search=1&s%5Bsearch_type%5D=rental&s%5Bfurn%5D=&s%5Brefreshmap%5D=1&search_type=rental

Ang3lus

around 600 euros for an ok apartment and another 400-500 for food ?
are those apartments terrible or ok ?

I doubt they could be worse than what i had in the army

KBarry

Ang3lus wrote: »

mike's place is still going strong

Good to hear that. I went their the odd time on my TA forays. Preferred the Irish bar near the US embassy though. Forget the name.. Mollys?

humberklog wrote: »

Don't like goldstar?Lo? Ma pi ton! Crate of Goldstar and a pack of noblesse and it's happy out.

Ah, now there's an ex-kibbutz volunteer if I'm not mistaken

Ang3lus

Sharing an apartment is also an option is it not ?
would be cool to meet some new people from different places
trouble is to find sane ones, lol :pac:

I just work alot with customers and it seems there are rarely any sane people :P

petethebrick

It's far too expensive to rent a single studio apartment in Dublin for you i reckon. You will easily find a room to let in a house/apartment share on a website like daft.ie for 400-500 a month. It will just take you a few days after you get here. Yeah dublin is expensive, but like anywhere if you're prepared to not be too extravagent you can get by on a minimum wage job and still have a good time going out etc Just don't expect to save anything!

arybvtcw0eolkf

KBarry wrote: »

Good to hear that. I went their the odd time on my TA forays. Preferred the Irish bar near the US embassy though. Forget the name.. Mollys?

Molly Blooms?.

Ang3lus

we actually have an "irish" pub here called Dublin
they have all kinds of irish beers there but the bar is pretty boring i reckon

Fionnanc

H Angelus. Military service coming up?
Suggest living outside of Dublin, Some very nice cities with lower costs
of living

Ang3lus

nah, finished my military almost two years ago
was tough but got over it
i was thinking maybe Cork, but Dublin seems to have the most life in it

arybvtcw0eolkf

Ang3lus wrote: »

nah, finished my military almost two years ago
was tough but got over it
i was thinking maybe Cork, but Dublin seems to have the most life in it

You'll NEVER live with the accent.

Weldone on your military service. I was going to join the IDF back in 1988!.

It was pretty easy for non-Israeli citizens to join back then.

Fionnanc

Gr8 Angelus,
Have come across some poor souls abroad that are miserable and isolated but won't go home to do their service.
Your standard of English is very good. You may want to consider registering with the Health Service Executive or an agency and get occasional work as a translator. In the previous Hospital I worked in one of the Irish Consultants was the translater for Hebrew, but If you speak Arabic you will get much more work. We also have many Russian immigrants that present to our health service/police/courts so if you are originally a Russian speaker you should do well. Recent reports released by our civil service reveal increasing money spent on translation services in the courts, but i assume this applies to all state services.
A quick view of the online job sites reveals jobs translating for European languages only. Maybe other boards users no a good recruitment agency

Ang3lus

thanks, that's a nice idea
i only know how to say "stop i'll or shoot" in arabic
i used to speak it very well but i forgot most of it, thank god.

estebancambias

what about game testing? if you speak two languages then it could be for you.

Fionnanc

Hi Angelus

"Stop or i'll shoot". Could use that phrase in my current job.

Ang3lus

wakaf wallana ana batuhak

that's in arab
"stop or i'll shoot"

israeli soldiers usually don't catch the phrase right and say

"wakaf walla ana bathuak"
which means
"stop and i'll shoot"

biko

I remember once everywhere ran out of

so I had to get

vile smokes, too strong.

Fionnanc

That's very unfair. If their arabic is that confusing they should shout their instruction in Hebrew.

Victor

Ang3lus wrote: »

around 600 euros for an ok apartment and another 400-500 for food ?

Sure, but add the usual bills, travel, a little entertainment and €1,500 is a lot more likely.

are those apartments terrible or ok ?

It depends on what you are used to. You will get a much better choice if you share a house or apartment with someone. For €600 you end up with "bedsits" (a studio where you may have to share bathroom or kitchen facilities) or places where they don't have photographs. :eek:

http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?s%5Bcc_id%5D=ct1&s%5Ba_id%5D=ga3&s%5Bmnp%5D=&s%5Bmxp%5D=600&s%5Bbd_no%5D=0&refine=Refine&search=1&s%5Bsearch_type%5D=rental&s%5Bfurn%5D=&s%5Brefreshmap%5D=1&search_type=rental

humberklog

KBarry wrote: »

Ah, now there's an ex-kibbutz volunteer if I'm not mistaken

Nope, IDF/college for 3year but back pretty often as family's there.


Ang do sharing. You simply won't enjoy your time here working minimum and bed-sit living. It'll sap the strength from your soul and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Sharing you'll get to meet more people and get involved in the city life more.

Ang3lus

yeah it seems like the best idea, sharing with other people
thanks
i might actually do that